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    Alienware New Model Speculation Thread

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by BatBoy, Mar 15, 2011.

  1. BNHabs

    BNHabs Notebook Deity

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    Which is a better graphics card?:

    555M 3GB
    or
    AMD Radeon HD 6750M with 1GB GDDR5
     
  2. HEUR

    HEUR Notebook Consultant

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    So m14x will be The Most Powerful 14” Gaming Laptop in the Universe??????
     
  3. Bufflekill

    Bufflekill Notebook Enthusiast

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    Able to name some quickly for future reference? wouldn't mind checking them out.
     
  4. Thierry19

    Thierry19 Coffee enthusiast

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    The 6750M is faster for gaming, the nvidia card well benifits it's larger memory and CUDA with other applications..

    HEUR: Iunno, I'm not aware of other 14" laptops :p
    Definitely faster than an Envy 14!
     
  5. AboutThreeFitty

    AboutThreeFitty ~350

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    Thanks. I saw someone overclock the GT 555 to 13k on the 3dmark06, thus getting me interested in this laptop. I just hope battery life is just as good as my y460.(5 hours) Time will tell.... :mad:
     
  6. Benchmade 42

    Benchmade 42 Titanium

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    For those people that keeps on complaining like sissy girls about how the GT 555m sucks on the new m14x, don't buy it and move on. As if AW will change the card because a few unknown regular joe posters are complaining in NBR. Let the potential buyers enjoy it instead of "yapyapyap" yapyapyap" this and that.
     
  7. stevenxowens792

    stevenxowens792 Notebook Virtuoso

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    The nvidia 555 is 7 percent slower than the 5850? Uh no.. not even close. Compare the 555 in the xps to the 5850. OVerclocked to the max (from the gaming forums and dell xps) the 555 nvidia gets 1680 in 3dmark11. Check the m15x forums and the benchmark thread and on gamer settings (825/1000) my 5850 scores 2783. Others are much higher. That's a little more than 7 percent. More like 60 percent higher. As I mentioned in the game sub-forums, it's time to come back down to reality a bit. Let's wait until it's actually released and look at the EXACT nvidia 555 they put in the "supposed" m14x. Lets see what the exact memory type is and the pipelines.

    Just my .02

    StevenX
     
  8. Thierry19

    Thierry19 Coffee enthusiast

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    It should, as other members said, if the M17x R3 can get 5.5 hours of battery life, there is no reason the M14x will get lower than that! If it gets 6hours of battery life, that might be a dream come true to me; actually portable, good looking and gaming capable laptop with a long lasting battery!

    I don't see why any heavy gamers would use a 14 incher as their main gaming rig..
     
  9. Voodooi

    Voodooi AFK for a while...

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    The 7% is stated on the notebookcheck comparison chart, that's why, but like I said, it could be way off.

    --

    @Thierry19
    My point exactly. I'm confident that the M14 will be 6hrs+ in battery life.
     
  10. stevenxowens792

    stevenxowens792 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Notebookcheck ...

    a. Used the wrong model 5850, it's the ddr3 model, not the Gddr5 in the alienware m15x.

    b. Are inconsistent in testing and I no longer consider them a source of reference in any discussion.

    c. Drag unwilling kids to their doom when the purchase notebooks based upon their charts and then the buyers wonder why their notebook doesn't perform as well as they thought it would.

    Just my .02

    Just remember .. others have the dell model 555m already in the xps 17. Benchmarks have been performed. The 5850s have benches for the last year in the m15x forums.
     
  11. revdiesel

    revdiesel Notebook Evangelist

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    Sony Vaio SB/SA

    Acer 3830TG
     
  12. technerd

    technerd Notebook Guru

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    If it worries everyone so much that the m14x has a ty card just take off the cover and replace the video card. Simple
     
  13. pdiddypdler

    pdiddypdler Notebook Enthusiast

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    i dont think its that simple... also where can you buy mobile video cards?
     
  14. revdiesel

    revdiesel Notebook Evangelist

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    People with the XPS + GT 555m are now getting close to 13k 3dmark06 without overclock(Updated drivers/Bio's etc) and near 15,000 with a slight overclock that runs cool and is stable.

    Source: http://forum.notebookreview.com/dell-xps-studio-xps/566206-overclocking-gt-555m-card-4.html

    Oh yeah, I just ran 3dmark06 on my desktop with i7 920 + GTX 285 2gig and got 17,000... I think this M14x will be a good PORTABLE machine, where as the M15x is about 10lbs. I like the trade offs.
     
  15. technerd

    technerd Notebook Guru

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    I dont know, good question black market maybe
     
  16. AboutThreeFitty

    AboutThreeFitty ~350

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    Whoa! That is great to hear.
     
  17. stevenxowens792

    stevenxowens792 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yep, the xps17 can definitely outscore me in 3dmark06. The problem is... that in any game benchmarks, they would be nowhere close to the m15x. That's why most understand that 3dmark06 isn't a benchmark that offers much value for gameplay. Vantage, of course. 3dmark11 for newer cards.

    The m14x will be a nice, portable gaming machine. The xps is nice in it's own right. Right now you can use coupons to get the xps17 with 2630qm and 555 for only $1000. I literally just checked myself.
     
  18. revdiesel

    revdiesel Notebook Evangelist

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    Sorry, Here is a 3DMark Vantage for the XPS + 555m "P7826" http://forum.notebookreview.com/dell-xps-studio-xps/566206-overclocking-gt-555m-card-5.html

    Off subject real quick.

    Stevenx really did the M11x community good! I appreciated all of your detailed information and help.

    Btw. Sweet gun! I have a Colt Civy M4
     
  19. stevenxowens792

    stevenxowens792 Notebook Virtuoso

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    7846 was the score discussed in the game forums. It's a good score. The m14x will not be the m15 but it will be more portable and a medium high gamer.
     
  20. Bufflekill

    Bufflekill Notebook Enthusiast

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    Acer looks good, but isn't out yet a part from Taiwan.

    Sony Vaio SB looks alright, but AMD Radeon HD 6470M looks like a downgrade from the m14x... or am i wrong?

    Sony Vaio SA isn't really out yet either I dont think, can't find much info on it anyway.
     
  21. revdiesel

    revdiesel Notebook Evangelist

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    I haven't looked around much on the people with the XPS 17" but im sure that if you really want to you can hit 10,000 3DMark Vantage. Bio's tweak etc.. Don't know about how playable it would be in an actual game though. From what I understand the guy who posted P7,800ish Didn't push his system too hard to get it.
     
  22. revdiesel

    revdiesel Notebook Evangelist

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    You can get the Sony Vaio SB with the 1GB HD 6630M + i7-2620M for $1269.99. There is a custom order option on the Sonystyle website under "New" S series laptop

    The HD 6630M is "supposed" to be a upper mid class GPU. It should play most new titles on medium to high settings(Call of Duty games) with the right tweaks.
     
  23. Bufflekill

    Bufflekill Notebook Enthusiast

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    Okay thanks, looks like that GPU upgrade wasn't available on the Aust Sony website.
     
  24. itcomic

    itcomic Notebook Consultant

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    I wish m11x has a bigger screen . Its awesome for portable gaming and entertainment but not quite suitable for long term work (for me at least ). M14x would be perfect if it offers a better gpu. By the way, an forum member has posted an initial review of the m14x ( with pictures of actual unit) at the m15x section. It seems the battery is internal based. You have to remove the whole bottom plate to gain access to the battery. The head lights share the similar design as m17x r3.

    The rest is just very simple and plain design. It also has soft touch exterior that is identical to m17x r3.

    Gaming performance review will be posted later.
     
  25. martinroshak

    martinroshak Notebook Consultant

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    Possible to get a link for this? Couldn't find it...

    I am personally very keen to see what the m14x turns out to be like. Purchased my first AW m11x last August and will never go back. Thing is great, but sometimes feels just a touch too small. Always annoying when I need a disc drive too.
     
  26. itcomic

    itcomic Notebook Consultant

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    This is the link .

    nb.zol.com.cn/222/2227902_all.html#p2227902

    Posting with cell phone*
    Same here. I keep checking youtube video to see if i can tolerate the screen size while i really like its small size. Now its all depends on the price and battery life now.
     
  27. revdiesel

    revdiesel Notebook Evangelist

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    LoL That wasn't a forum members review. Some Chinese site. We all saw that review a month ago. Hence this threads life :p
     
  28. martinroshak

    martinroshak Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks for that! Based on those images, the only thing I don't like is the touchpad, very much a fan of the textured one on my m11x.
     
  29. EviLCorsaiR

    EviLCorsaiR Asura

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    Because it's not that simple. Laptops are not desktops; you can't simply change a few parts.

    The new GPU would have to:
    1. Fit
    2. Be compatible with the system
    3. Work with the BIOS
    4. Be cooled adequately by the existing cooling system.

    Simply put, the odds of getting a more powerful GPU in here are next to nothing.


    Oh, and for all the people complaining about the 'lack of power' in a GT555M, you're missing the point. This is not designed to be a super powerful machine with some portability like the M15x; this is designed to be a super portable machine with some gaming capability like the M11x.

    I mean, look at the dimensions. The screen might only be an inch smaller, but overall it is significantly smaller than the M15x. The M15x had a rather large space around the screen, this has very little space around the screen.

    Think of it like this: The M15x was a toned down, more portable M17x. The M14x is a larger, more powerful M11x.

    Besides, the 555M isn't weak. It's not a top end card, no, but it will still play all modern games in high detail. It's easily capable of playing Crysis 2 in High at 1366x768 or above. I can say that for a fact, because my machine manages it on a single 3870 (can't do it on crossfire, as there are all sorts of issues with multi-GPU and Crysis 2 right now) and the 555M is significantly more powerful than that. I'd say gaming capabilities like that are more than enough for users who want a very portable machine with gaming capabilities.
     
  30. stevenxowens792

    stevenxowens792 Notebook Virtuoso

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    @Evil -- I think folks get spoiled with the larger Alienware notebooks, in a sense that components can be changed. You really are correct though. Think of the m14x as a larger m11x... I like that.

    StevenX
     
  31. itcomic

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    April 21st is the speculated release date ? I can't wait :)
    GT555m is pretty powerful after you overclock it. Vantage GPU score is close to 6500 (stock 460m is about 7000 range more or less)

    Most important advantage is, thr temp stays COOL even overclocked. The members who own the XPS with GT555m has proven its great potential to overclock.

    It is a m11x buff up version !
     
  32. Paddon

    Paddon Notebook Evangelist

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    is that for all 3 ?

    ( m11x, m14x, m18x ) ?
     
  33. Riddhy916

    Riddhy916 Notebook Deity

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    i want

    m11x-r3 with gt555m/6770m with much thinner chassis and an i5 2410m cpu not culv

    m14x with gtx 460m/6970m

    m16x with 15.6 inch/gtx 485m

    m18x with 485m sli/6970m cf confirmed within usd 2500

    m13x will also be a good choice if ships with 6770m with an i5 in a thinner chassis and within 2.2 kg
     
  34. itcomic

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    We wish :)
    Most likely, m11x and m14x. M18x probably won't release until winter 2011.
     
  35. blaster

    blaster 1 tequila, 2,3,4,5, floor

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    dreaming is priceless huh :p
     
  36. HEUR

    HEUR Notebook Consultant

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    m11x r4 should be renamed as m12x and have a 12.1 inches display. Period.
     
  37. mfractal

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    where's that coming from ?
    I was under the impression that the three of them get released together.
    At least according to Eric G, and he had been spot on until now.
     
  38. Paddon

    Paddon Notebook Evangelist

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    it does make sense though, they dont want to take the sales away from the m17x r3
     
  39. Serephucus

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    I actually really like the M14x. I can't really fault it. My only gripe is that blasted CD drive.

    Seriously, how often do you use one? About the only time I do is when installing Windows, or running bootable diagnostics, - right there that's about 2% of overall usage time, a lot less if you include nights, given that that's when most tests would be left to run - and installing the odd game that I can't get downloaded on Steam or D2D or whatever.

    Give me an M14x with a 12-cell battery and ... I dunno, two HDDs instead. :)

    Am I asking too much? Maybe, but I really like the idea of something like that.
     
  40. ejohnson

    ejohnson Is that lemon zest?

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    You can replace the slot load with a hdd with one of those slotload hdd caddys.
     
  41. flipstar

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    Places to buy video cards:
    eBay - New & used electronics, cars, apparel, collectibles, sporting goods & more at low prices
    MXM Upgrade Home Page
    local specialty shops

    However, I do not believe it is as simple as "swapping out the gt555m for another card".
    One of the biggest problems is the bios. If dell didn't write the bios to support other video card modules, we are all outta luck.

    The other thing is that (and I could be wrong here, since I haven't really done the research) the gt555m in the m14x may be integrated. I know is a 'discrete' card when it comes to vram, but it may litterally be soldered to the motherboard, in which case it won't be coming out anytime soon. I suspect this because I don't see any separate videocard module areas on the m14x pictures or in the documentation.
     
  42. Serephucus

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    Oh I know, yeah. My main reason for the HDD was space... do they even make, what 15, 20-cell batteries?
     
  43. Thierry19

    Thierry19 Coffee enthusiast

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    The M18x is rumored to get a 12 cells battery. The battery life with the 8 cell battery should be pretty good already. However I agree, a second HDD with raid capability could have been great! It would not ruin AW to send the ressources and restore "DVD" on a 16gb USB stick!
     
  44. Serephucus

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    Hell, do like some other companies do and include a POS external drive, and raise the price by $10.
     
  45. itcomic

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    That is exactly my thought. Just speculation.
     
  46. Comrade Ynot

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    M18 will appeal to and is designed for a different market IMO. M17x is the new m15x, it's an amazing single gpu machine with a good screen and cool features. M18 might be the m17x r2 reborn. It should be the flagship gaming laptop from Dell/Alienware. It should also be loads more expensive, whereas for a good price you can get an r3 17 that kicks gaming butt.
     
  47. vzachari

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    I second this. I am almost certain the GT555m is soldered to the mainboard on the M14x. Only the CPU can be replaced. (Based on the Service manual and looking at the M14X mainboard)
     
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    HEUR Notebook Consultant

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    HEUR Notebook Consultant

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    You are right. It is soldered in the MB, just like the m11x.

    M14x service manual pics:
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  50. mfractal

    mfractal T|I

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    True, and also the m11x-R3 and m14x pages and manuals are ready but the m18x isn't so yeah... there's some logic to it..
     
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