Alienware New Product Announcements/Speculations: Fall/Winter 2010

Yes i agree what is all the hype with sb . These are gaming rigs , so what more does sb have to offer that i7 cant offer? Albeit intergrated graphics is cool for battery life, but is that it? Im more interestrd in 3d, usb 3, and hdmi in not to mention bettar video cards.

 

yes I agree w you, that will be cooooool.

 

According to this AMD roadmap:



From this article:
AMD GPU roadmap points to a happy 2011 for Radeon lovers -- Engadget

The new mobile GPUs by AMD won't be released until Q1 2011 so I guess the m17x R3 won't be available either until then. Smells like CES 2011.

 

Yep,yep!lol damn more wait!

 

Does anyone know if the 6870/6970 cards can be installed in the R2 as an upgrade option? Haven't been able to find any info on the 6870/6970 cards. It would be nice to not have to look forward to purchasing another laptop again after only 6 months of use.

 

That will never happen
how else do you think they will make money ?

& even if they say it will happen
they will come up saying they dont have in stock

just live with it thats all

 

I would never say "it will never happen" especially with Dell and AW. We have seen in the past quite some crazy stuff like the GTX285M on the R2 as the last updated GPU. That was completely not expected.

As far as the R3 is concerned, I just do not care for sandy bridge. This is a gaming platform and the CPU is not so much of a concern for me. I would just like the same RGB LED screen as right now, an USB 3.0 upgrade, a GTX470M SLI, a new PSU going all the way up to 300W and some minor design improvement as well as some great new cooling design and that would be enough for me to make a decision purchase on the R3

 

I am wondering, who is betting on R3 launching prior to Christmas?

 

Anyone know of a possible M13x? It would be the perfect balance between portability and performance. The M11x is too small for me, plus theres no CD/ROM drive. If they made a M13x, I would DEFINITLY want it no matter what the price. (It would be nice to be cheap like the M11x tho... )

 

Sorry This was supposed to be a new thread... I dunno what happened.

 

It was merged because we do not need another speculation thread

 

Oh okay thanks.

 

I think we may see something before Christmas.

Would be smart get a bunch of new orders in on a updated R2 or new R3

 

Well you might be able to take "orders" for SB laptops around Christmas. Not sure about that, but if introduction is going to be around the 2nd week of Jan, it may be possible to order at Christmas.

Wouldn't it be funny to have a card under the tree saying "new SB based M17x on it's way in a few weeks!" and a pic of the machine LOL

 

I highly doubt this. Companies like Dell don't stop selling old versions until the new version is released. Telling people there is a new version arrive in 1 month will result is all sales of the old version stopping and most people will not pre-order a laptop.

 

its not an entire new model so no pre announcement will be made i think. Only when its a new line arriving there si a pre-announcement (so far)

 

I hope AW (read Dell) is reading these forums to see that there are a bunch of people waiting for their cutting edge company to catch up with the other guys. Origin isnt as pretty, but its a hell of a lot faster with the dual 2GB gtx480's theyve had for awhile..
Guys its showing us AW isnt a boutique anymore.

 

Yea what happened to cutting edge?

 

CrossfireX MR5870s are so last month.

Honestly all I want is an updated M11x with the hinges fixed, and 120Hz screen options for all of the models.

 

what i would like or what i am hoping for is two updates a new model for the m15x, new cpu and 470, 480 gtx or ati 6970. for the second update a new gpu for the m11x, hopefully two options(ati & nvidia)

 

IMO, most companies usually put up great sales for Black Friday, like huge huge sales so they can sell out of everything or get rid of as much stock as they can, so they dont have to worry about selling as much machines and whatever they have left they can put them up for replacement issues or at the outlet.

Also, if they release SB in CES2011, I have two theories, one: CES2011 will release the processor information and everything for CONSUMERS, whose to say they havent already givent companies their stock? last year when the Core ixxx CPUs were released Laptops starting coming out with them instantly, it would be hard to imagine that within a couple of weeks they redesigned new laptops with MB and parts etc for 4-5 different models at the same time unless they were already given the chips before Shown to everyone at CES2011 so they will be ready right away.
2nd: when SB releases it will take them a couple of months to work out the minor redesign, all the kinks a bit of testing etc.. so everything hardware wise is stable and they can just release fixes for anything just missed out that was minor. with this possibility that puts the release of new AW laptops around march/April.
what do you guys say?

 

Talking about USB 3.0, would Dell/AW and Intel offer us a taste of Light Peak? There are prototypes and potential release for early 2011 already, albeit questionable

Update: Looks like the Sandy Bridge debut is at CES 2011. Looking forward to new AW laptops next year )

 

What good would that do?

You buy a laptop with lightpeak, but you don't have anything to plug into it

 

Install a lightpeak port into your brain. I'm calling it... "Actual Real 3-D".

 

Hello guys, do you think alienware is going to make a new revision on the m17X or make a new alienware? It'd be very good if they could be the first brand with the new upgrades that'd put alienware on the top, I'm not saying that AW isn't at the top-5 but it's loosing some popularity in the section of inovation and I'd really like AW to gain the old revolutionizing spirit.

Sory about that testament

Greetings

 

they arent going to make big changes. they have a notebook and desktop line. if they change the whole line they will change the look. probably some improvements but nothing big.

 

So which are Todays Top 5 Gaming Laptops ?

1) SAGER NP7280
2) AW m17x
3) SAGER NP8120
4) Sager NP8850
5) Asus G73JW or G53JW

or .............

 

Alienware still has the top 1 place in my opinion. If you take the screen and the cooling and the performance + the looks + build quality its still number one.

 

If price is a factor, G73JW-XA1 is far better than anything from Alienware.
If performance is all that matters, one of the top-end Clevo-based gaming notebooks would win by a landslide.

 

^^ at asus... untill you upgrade.

 

No clevo wins by a landslide. Your comment is biased and not based on truth:

AW M17X:

1. RGB LED screen - once you've seen it, you won't ever go to the crap on the clevo

2. Warranty and in home service - worth every penny of the AW warranty.

3. Design and built like a tank. Clevo does not come even close.

4. The rest is basically the same in terms of hardware so why would you even consider the clevo if money is not an issue? Only clueless people would say such a thing.

 

Rofl... I said Clevo-based and if performance is all that matters.

Reading comprehension ftw?

 

Even if performance is all that matters and even if lets say the clevo x7200 should be winning by a landslide, in my book, its not due to the 300W power supply which hinders extensive over-clocking and issues with cooling the I7 extreme CPUs ( http://hothardware.com/Reviews/Desktop-Replacement-Pinnacle-Malibals-X7200-Reviewed/?page=12)

Now, as far as the post below is concerned

1. RGB LED screen - once you've seen it, you won't ever go to the crap on the clevo

Ok, Fine.

2. Warranty and in home service - worth every penny of the AW warranty.

If you get a clevo from Xotic pc or other reliable reseller then both support & warranty are top notch, I had experience with them after dropping my d901c off the stairs and I know. Do I need to mention the horrors of AW on site techs support and the long (make that horrendously long calls) just to get through to them.

3. Design and built like a tank. Clevo does not come even close.

If we compare the x7200 or even my old d901c I wouldn't say that clevo is not build like a tank at all. Design is also excellent if we consider cooling, component placement etc, but aesthetically clevos do not look as good.

4. The rest is basically the same in terms of hardware so why would you even consider the clevo if money is not an issue? Only clueless people would say such a thing.

If one likes core-i7 quad core extremes of the desktop variety then hardware is not basically the same.
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AW just takes a lot of "time" to come around with new hardware. It's possible they are working to change that and SB (along with 6xxx and 470 options) may come in January, or AW could take their sweet time in getting to it.

SB offers 20% higher CPU speed, which since CPU's are pretty much locked into whatever generation you purchase at, is a pretty large jump. SB also gives 67% more memory bandwidth in the mobile platform. Now it's not like the current I7's are starving, but the increase gets them closer to desktop performance. SB also allows for brief periods to exceed TDP limits if the cooling is good enough (which on Clevo and AW machines it certainly is).

If the new gen also includes USB 3 and 120hz screens as well as a larger battery (that makes the longer SB battery life go even further), you are talking a large "win" on a wide number of areas. SB isn't just a minor incremental change. It's significant. Clevo will be on the ball and I'm sure you'll be able to get one based on SB in Jan or Feb at the latest. AW could take till May to get with the program, but I do believe that have the will and the tools (samples) in their hands to make a much faster release time on this generation than in the past.

We shall see. But SB as a step forward is a pretty large step...

 

Clevo doesn't really win by a "landslide" when you look at the benchmarks between SLI vs 5870x2... Almost even performance, desktop CPU's have had little effect for gaming.

For computing, easily the x7200.

 

I don't see one happening. This has just been an off year for the holiday season when it comes to laptop technology. It's not a big deal. We'll see a lot of exciting new stuff next spring/summer.

 

Clevo has the new GPU's and desktop CPU's, that's about it. Anyhow, back on topic. Now, I want "new-s" not "old-s" on the M11x, anybody have any? Do you think they'll do anything to the screen, resolution-wise? Another Q: If you set the screen resolution on a native 1366x768 to 1280x720 would you achieve perfectly square pixels? Or would it look messed? 'Cuz right now I wanna get used to playing on such a small res and I have no idea what I should do. Any help?

 

I think you need to read the benchs. I love my M17x but they are not in the same class. Not even close to even, unless they turn off sli. The X7200 is closer to desktop performance.

Is That A Notebook? MALIBAL's Six-Core, Dual-GPU, Speed Demon : Incomparable Performance?

 

Not sure I agree with that at all.

These are my sources looking at gaming or GPU performance only.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...3-clevo-x7200-sager-np7280-owners-lounge.html

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480M SLI - Notebookcheck.net Tech

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/526613-official-bench-thread-x7200-np7280-2.html

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire - Notebookcheck.net Tech

While I'm not disputing the 480 is better then the 5870x2 saying its not even close is hyperbolic. I know full well the x7200 dominates at the older CPU orientated benches, my reference point is strictly gaming.

 

Your comparisons show gtx480 being about 26% faster. Thats quit a bit.

 

It is my guess that AW will announce something before Christmas not sure though if it will be available by Christmas or not.

 

one would think that alienware would want to wait till CES to get there product in view of the press so they will recieve the most sales in the long run. when they released the model before the current m15x & m17x back in 08, alienware announced both the m15x and m17x at CES. i just hope they do the same this time around we may hear something as early as dec

 

jesus christ
http://media.bestofmicro.com/R/Y/265390/original/malibal-nine_x7200-brick.jpg

http://media.bestofmicro.com/S/4/265396/original/malibal-nine_x7200-left.jpg

this is why I don't like clevo, it's like carrying bricks literaly.

I just hope AW shows something new in December that'd be very cool

 

Well there is a bad news side to the Dec introduction wishes too...

If (supposing) there was a Dec introduction of a R3 model, then there probably won't be a Jan update of an R4 with SB. And since the R3 is supposed to have a non Intel based Wireless display tech in 1080P, which is a feature touted on the upcoming SB chipsets, there is at least an inkling that we do indeed get a Nov/Dec updated R3, but using the old tech and that would likely mean that SB will come much later in Q1.

Exciting to think of a new model, but sad because I'm looking forward to SB.

 

According to this:

http://www.sibeam.com/pdf/SiBEAM_ASUS_PR_FINAL.pdf

The Asus G73 and G53 both seem to have the same wireless display tech as the one rumored for the R3 and they are both i7 bound. I don't think the Sibeam chip is SB specific.

Also, at least one site ( Alienware M17x R3 leaks with Radeon HD 6970 and wireless HD | Electronista) claims that the R3 will come with core i7s as an option, but personally I don't believe a word they are saying. Too many conflicting rumors

 

IMO, a revision should come out when its NEEDED unlike say Sony, they come out with a new refresh every 3-4 months exactly only to come out with different HDD or RAM or Screen configurations, things they forgot when releasing.

M17x got a new revision when new hardware was available that wasnt compatible with the old hardware e.g. GPU type, new CPU. Its a bit of an annoyance for a customer when he just got a $3K + laptop to find out next month a new refresh is out, most consumers who are out to buy expensive toys are updated as to when new hardware is releasing and how its going to affect current hardware.

The reason that its most likely a refresh is going to happen before/during/after CES2011 is because Sandy Bridge has a new architecture that needs a new Motherboard revision (if im wrong please let me know) which MIGHT feature extras like USB 3.0, but its not necessary that it does. This fact alone that a refresh coming is good news to everyone especially for m15x enthusiasts who are looking to get a new system soon because things like a HDMI port and maybe better speakers (personal wish ) might make it to the new refresh.

I just highly doubt they will change the looks and the structure of the chassis, if they did it would be a whole new redesign and would need a name to reflect the entire change, like how legacy systems, Area-51 m15x went straight to M15x so people could differentiate the old model from the new. but just to remind you this is all my own personal opinion so take it lightly

 

Do me a favor folks... leave the comparisons of AW to other manufacturers/brands out of this thread. Feel free to strike up a thread in Off Topic or the WNSIB forum.

Back on topic please... the topic is speculation on new AW releases for fall/winter 2010.

No more OT posts - Thanks everyone!

 

What else do we have to base speculation off of if we dont compare to the other guys new stuff??? The comparisons are legit here. Were not saying one is better. I was saying thats the target to aim for. Were saying we want it/might get it because they have it.
AND STOP WITH THE JC ALREADY! That has no place here.

 

I hope aw just update gpus until Sb.

There is nothing wrong with i7 until Sb comes out. Dual 470 or 6970 cards with 940xm should be enough until then.

Perhaps with Sb's lower power draw more watts can be put towards the gpu. I'd upgrade to a Sb with 470m 15" aw if they make such a beast.

And what's with all the hate for Jesus? Lol.

 

Wah I want my R3 with GTX470SLI and not AMDs6000Series.