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    Alienware Prepping "Allpowerful" Laptop for Next Month/

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by MAG, May 12, 2009.

  1. Scytus

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    Would u buy SSD's from alienware while building the laptop? or would you buy them seperately? (better product/brand)
     
  2. Mandrake

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    I'm automatically assuming it will cost more to buy directly from Alienware. Buying it on my own gives me a chance to try to find a good deal.
     
  3. Scytus

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    well sure

    but I mean performance-wise?

    read/write speed, etc..
     
  4. The_Moo™

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    buyign on your own lets you get faster drives like the vertex or intel

    aw uses samsung drives
     
  5. Scytus

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    considerably faster? or by a small margin...I rather not do my own raid setup xD
    I'm quite clumsy

    ...and I dont see a fingerprint scanner...that makes me sad : <
     
  6. The_Moo™

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    vertex drive hits 230 mb while the samsung hits i think 150 or so, still faster then a regular HD
     
  7. Scytus

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    hmm, what specs are you guys planning on buying your notebooks with?
     
  8. The_Moo™

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    i will be buying with base specs and upgradeing myself so that i can write guides and help out the people of NBR :)

    NBR is actually one of the 3 things that are making me buy this :)
     
  9. Mandrake

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    Yeah buying it ourselves will give us a chance to buy the Vertex, Falcon, Torqx or which ever other new SSD that is the exact same drive with different names.
     
  10. Mandrake

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    I would want the highest end dual core cpu and the dual 280s but I'm still researching the edge to edge LCD option.
     
  11. Scytus

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    oh awesome

    ill be looking forward to your guides :D
     
  12. The_Moo™

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    being this is a m17x refresh most how to guides in my sig will still work

    except ODD guide
    and possibly couple other such as GPU's
     
  13. Scytus

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    why dual core and not quad?

    and the LCD isnt quite appealing to me, I was wondering if I could get the screen replaced by a professional with a LED. HP has LED on their laptops, I was hoping this new AW would as well.

    I've seen the difference between an LCD and LED side-by-side...and the difference is phenomenal.
     
  14. WaR

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    I am thinking he wants to go for the Dual (as would I) because of all the issues the Quad had with the M17.
     
  15. Mandrake

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    I prefer raw speed over more cores. Then again if the quad speeds equal the dual speeds then I'll reconsider.
     
  16. WaR

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    or not... ..........
     
  17. Mandrake

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    Don't worry since this is a new release I'm sure there will be new problems to solve. :D
     
  18. Scytus

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    surely since the quad was such an enormous problem for the M17...they must have corrected it?
     
  19. The_Moo™

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    we did ....
     
  20. WaR

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    That is right. Or at least I hope so. I am just wondering if this animal did correct, or test for all the problems people have now. I know the hinges wont be a problem here... whoa
     
  21. Scytus

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    well I know this community did with the copper trick, but the new model would assumingly not have those problems requiring such a correction on our part?
     
  22. The_Moo™

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    no Quanta makes these and the m17x has no hinge issues or heating issues its a very stable system
     
  23. Phinagle

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    For those asking about whether or not the mobile Core i7 will be out in a couple of months: Don't Wait.


    What's due out this year are the three 45-nm Clarksfield quad-cores only. The only thing those CPUs hold over the Monty quads is that they are self overclocking when less cores are being used and they've gotten rid of the FSB. These are nice features but shouldn't produce massive performance gains for gaming. Those features also sounds like it's going to change the game for you overclockers.

    Also FYI the next-gen Nehalem chips for desktops and mobile are starting to be called i5.


    For GPUs the new is moving to 40-nm for both Nvidia and ATI but the news is that manufacturing is going slow and may not be able to meet demands.


    Whatever new tech is getting announced this year likely won't make it into laptops until the middle of next year at the earliest and probably won't be working right until the Q1-Q2 of 2011.
     
  24. WaR

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    You never know dude. I am pretty sure this monster will have its own problems. The thing with that is, that everyone will be on the same boat. At least with the older systems you knew someone had already figured something out. The new people and their new systems will pretty much be on their own for a while.

    Or it might not have some issues. Which will then make me buy one. I will surely wait a couple of months to be sure obviously since my system runs great and does all I need and more right now.

    Responding to Skytus btw
     
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    What about the new extreme cpus described here? Hoping these get released soon.
     
  26. Matrix_XII

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    $1799 seem ok for the "Allpowerful " :) but not much different for the CPU (compare with M17). i will wait, and hope my next laptop with core i7 in it :)
     
  27. Scytus

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    This is the "calpella"? and wouldnt a feature such as self-overclocking be worth waiting a month or two for..

    ..why would they get rid of the FSB? sorry, I crave knowledge xD

    Im not hesitant about the 280M GPU's, graphics cards are much easier to replace than a processor...I rather not touch the processor for a long..long time :p
     
  28. The_Moo™

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    well thats why i want to buy this thing

    its an aluminum body so they hooked the GPU's up to the Laptops frame :D
     
  29. Phinagle

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    Yeah that's Calpella. It may be out in a few months but will be a different socket and won't fit in a Monty motherboard. Reports are that we'll see Calpella in notebooks by late 2009 but I personally can't see anyone releasing a notebook until the dual-core Arrandale CPUs are also released in Q1 2010.

    FSB is being replaced by QPI


    In notebooks the only things that are easy to upgrade from one gen to the next are Hard Drives.
     
  30. KimoT

    KimoT Are we not men?

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    The memory controller is in the CPU, allowing faster communication between processor and memory, especially as the number of cores increase.
     
  31. The_Moo™

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    .......good info Phinagle


    i want my notebook to selllll
    its only been 6 hours and i am already mad :mad: 450 less then what it cost now and 600 less then what i paid
     
  32. KimoT

    KimoT Are we not men?

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    But now SATA III is coming up as well. Once all of this hits the market, we'll see some amazing laptops.
     
  33. Scytus

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    Right..been researching what you've said since your last post. QPI seems to be far more superior to FSB..and the auto-overclocking seems very tempting..(im no overclocker, so I wouldnt be trying to OC it myself).

    but you suggest not to wait the few months?
     
  34. Phinagle

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    Can't say. They may be vaporware or just made up.

    The QX9200 could very well be the Q9200 that's has been sold as an ES chip for awhile now. KillerNotebooks I know has sold the Q9200 ES since the Whitebook first came out....if it hasn't gone OEM by now I have doubts it ever will.


    The X9500 just sounds like make-believe. 3.73 Ghz with unlocked multipliers?
     
  35. Scytus

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    when is that expected?

    EDIT: and what of USB 3.0?
     
  36. sneakyFspy

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    Mr.Moo I dont think you will have a problem selling it because you have that lid color. Someone is bound to like it and offer you what you want for it, because its a novelty. So hang tight, sit back and let em come to you! You need a good presentation with photos, numbers and bench scores, put it all in your sig and this thing will sell itself!
     
  37. Scytus

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    yea I actually like the two-tone presentation

    Ive always been a fan of two-tone
     
  38. The_Moo™

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    lol i hope so

    DO you know how hard it is to find a BRAND NEW m9700 lid ?

    its 2 years old!!!!

    i have a BLUE one to :p
     
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    my computer is saying buy me :eek:
     
  40. Phinagle

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    I'm saying it won't be a few months. At least not for a gaming machine like this AW to show up with Calpella.
     
  41. The_Moo™

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    yea i doubt AW will show up with a capella just for a couple of CPU they will more then likely release a new notebook when there is a BIG jump in technology


    it took 2 months before they offered a GTX GPU solution
     
  42. Scytus

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    Oh..that..makes me sad
     
  43. Scytus

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    I see...2 months for a new GPU solution (when alienware specializes in gaming) equals about 8-12 months for a new CPU solution?
     
  44. The_Moo™

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    no ..... i am lost .....

    marketing sense = not worth designing a new laptop just for the new CPU's. Wait until there is a big jump in technology

    like santa rosa to montevina
     
  45. Scytus

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    So my 8-12 months speculation is wrong? itd actually be longer?
     
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    Looks awesome and I think it looks better than the M1730 and the old M17x. If the specs are accurate, this would basically be the M980NU in 17inch form and if the starting price is accurate, then Clevo resellers may have some trouble selling the M980NU. But who knows.

    As for the ATi cards, I didn't expect it to come with them. Possibly in the future they might offer one ATi card, but not two seeing as this looks to be the same nVidia MCP79 SLi chipset used in the M980NU. That may be reserved for the M17 still...
     
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    it is, it is !!!!!!!

    the m17 will have 4870's hold me to it :)
     
  48. Scytus

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    Why are you so against 16:9? isnt that the most common ratio?
     
  49. The_Moo™

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    ^^^ that would be the point :)

    16:9 is used because its cheaper to make....
     
  50. KimoT

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    According to The Register, the SATA III spec was just released. It allows double the speed of SATA II, as well as smaller connectors for netbook hard drives and optical devices. I would guess that we won't see actual devices this year. If this article is correct, we could see USB 3 in the wild by the end of the year, but no telling how long until it becomes a standard feature. I'm thinking that it will take at least a year to see all of this new tech offered in high-end systems, but that's just speculation.

     
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