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    Are there any new Alienware models in the works? [Speculations and Wish List]

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by YAYTech, Jun 11, 2012.

  1. CobraPizza

    CobraPizza Notebook Guru

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    Would a 17'' touchscreen be a little overkill? I just don't see the idea in a touchscreen in a conventional laptop (open/close type). I would hate having even my own fingers plastered across my screen, when I take measures for it, to not even touch the keyboard. I could just be me behind the learning curve, that has happened before ;)
     
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    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Yep, sure would. I don't support it at all, but I can see them experimenting with it at least once - on any system.
     
  3. vzachari

    vzachari Notebook Evangelist

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    The touchscreen is to play Angry Birds :) Like shown in one of the new Windows 8 commercials on a huge all-in-one desktop PC.
     
  4. CobraPizza

    CobraPizza Notebook Guru

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    Buys +2500 $ gaming laptop.. plays Angry Birds.. :D the irony is strong in this one!
     
  5. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    What they need is a 27" Android phone for that, LOL.
     
  6. raclimja

    raclimja Notebook Consultant

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    My wishlist for the next m17x are:

    -1080p 120hz ips matte/2560x1440 ips matte
    -Vapor chamber cooler w/ quieter fans
    -better sounding speakers with subwoofer
    -better tactile keyboard with nk-rollover
    -2x thunderbolt port
    -carbon fibre/carbon composite/magnesium alloy(must be lighter of atleast 1.5lbs than current m17x)
    -thinner and smaller footprint

    Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
     
  7. King of Interns

    King of Interns Simply a laptop enthusiast

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    gitt13 Notebook Consultant

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    Almost none of that will happen

    Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
     
  9. Benchmade 42

    Benchmade 42 Titanium

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    Or

    FULLHD 120hz 3D ready display w/o the needs for glasses with 95% color gamut Matte IPS Display and Matte bezel
    Dual Fans that are quieter than the G75
    Forget Carbon Fiber or Aluminum or Magnesium. Go All Out Titanium on the case, lid and palm rest with no glossy parts
     
  10. Defengar

    Defengar Notebook Deity

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    While a titanium laptop chassis would be cool, it really isn't practical. Seriously. It will still scratch, except you GL buffering that out. And considering how thin laptop chassis are, the fact its made of titanium won't really offer any more protection. The only real advantage it would have over aluminum, is the fact it is a poor conductor of heat, which would keep the hand rest cooler.
    Due to Titanium being hard to work with, it would cause the M18x's cost to rise. Also, titanium is heavier than aluminum, and considering how much these laptops already weight, they really don't need to gain anymore weight.
     
  11. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    You could maybe do a palm rest of it but yes certainly impractical for the whole machine.
     
  12. J.Dre

    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I'd like to see Alienware introduce a new system without taking any away. Either bring back the M15x or make a new system, like an M13x (13.3").
     
  13. failwheeldrive

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    Same here, although I'd like to see them drop the M14x, then bring back the M15x and a sub-notebook like an M12x or M13x.
     
  14. shnarf

    shnarf Notebook Consultant

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    It would be nice to see a smaller model with a narrow-bezel display. something like a 13" in a m11x size frame. I'd also like to see the next m14x loose the optical drive and either become thinner or get better cooling/sli option, as I believe thats more likely than getting another smaller model added to the mix.
     
  15. vsg28

    vsg28 Notebook Consultant

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    Is there space for SLI/CFX in an M14x though?
     
  16. bigtonyman

    bigtonyman Desktop Powa!!!

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    might be able to SLI lower voltage cards, but whats the point if you can use a Superior higher single card?
     
  17. Mastaa

    Mastaa Notebook Consultant

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    I'd love to see a better cooling option with a superior card, maybe an even an SLI-option with the superior card :D
     
  18. NickTheMajin

    NickTheMajin Notebook Guru

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    I personally don't think alien ware should bother with an m11 or m12x. The whole point of getting an alienware is for performance. If you want a laptop that small you should get one of the many 12 or 13inchers with a 630m but that's likely all you would get in an alienware mini notebook.

    And I can understand why they ditched the m15x as annoying as that may be for some people. The m15x was gigantic and almost the same weight as the m17x is now and wanted an m18x for the dual GPU option. No sense having three huge laptops.

    The m14x should stay as a single GPU system though. My girlfriend has one and even with just the one 650m the fans blast really loudly. No point in having two weak cards anyway.
     
  19. gitt13

    gitt13 Notebook Consultant

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    The point we're trying to make is that with 15" gaming laptops with more performance weigh less than the m14x, and still have decent cooling. It's not impossible

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  20. TBoneSan

    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    Since I use my AW mostly as a portable desktop thats usually connected to a TV, I don't really care about weight. Even if I bring it to work the m18x does fine in carry case. I dont mind if it gets denser. I just want more power from the next alienware, then some more power again. I want it to have so much power that considering buying a desktop seems an archaic thought.
    I'd like to see Mobile GPU's make some more big strides.
    Although probably not possible, quicker access to the CPU/GPU somehow would be great.
    Athletics is also important to me, so no eyesaws please.
    I don't subscribe to the slimming down camp so much. A bootcamped Mac book is probably a better bet. I don't see the point of an AW being scaling down in size if the system as a whole isn't getting faster
     
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    M11X shaped like an ultrabook with backlit display and GT650M along with an M15X would be nice.
     
  22. jeffreyac

    jeffreyac Notebook Evangelist

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    Well, since I finally got around to ordering my system, there should be something spctacular and new released just around the corner!

    (that's usually how these things work for me... :p )
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Oh did you get hit by the R2 and 4870 situation last time?

    No big generational leaps in performance, so it wont be that dramatic again.
     
  24. jeffreyac

    jeffreyac Notebook Evangelist

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    Nah, I haven't upgraded for a long time - got the m17 (ripley case) in my sig right before the ripley cased systems went away...

    I can't complain though - honestly, I kinda like the look of the older Ripley model vs. the new hotness/flashiness of the current m17x/m18x line.

    It does mean that, no matter what comes down the road after I get my system, I'm in for a little bit of a shock - I'm going directly from the x9100 cpu/dual 3870 crossfire setup to the 3940xm/dual 680m SLI system. Not sure I even have a good grasp of how much different the performance is going to be, but looking forward to finding out!
     
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    You cant even begin to imagine at the moment no, lol. Get crysis 3 as a must too.
     
  26. CobraPizza

    CobraPizza Notebook Guru

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    That is a serious setup, right there, just a bit jealous here on the sideline.. Can I ask, why you chose Space Black over Nebula Red?
     
  27. Meaker@Sager

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    It is a lovely setup, I am a bit envious too! The black is bit more understated imo.
     
  28. jeffreyac

    jeffreyac Notebook Evangelist

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    Honestly, was on the fence right up to the point of ordering it. I spent a lot of time here and other sites, looking at pics and video of the two systems, and kept going back and forth as to which I preferred. The 'black' wasn't really a black, being a more gunmental grey (at least, based on everything I've seen) and the red didn't appear to be a deep, fiery red but a little more subdued.

    In the end, I found myself more drawn to the (slightly!) more subtle look the black offered.

    Says something about us, doesn't it, that we can spend as much time worrying about the color of our system as the parts under the hood, huh? :p
     
  29. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Well notebooks tend to be on display more, much like a car.
     
  30. Defengar

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    Especially one like the M18x lol. Doesn't matter what color it is, or even if the lights are on. That thing is going to be a star magnet just because of sheer size.
     
  31. King of Interns

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    This is because the M15x is 3.5 years old! Of course it is gigantic compared with the latest 4th generation M17x!

    Now if there had also been an R3 and R4 model version of the M15x since then it wouldn't look gigantic at all!!

    It would be basically be M14x sized. The old M15x still destroys the latest M14x in terms of gaming (what alienwares are for right?!) without even breaking a sweat so it is a pointless laptop.

    The reason they did away with it was to make more money. ie : throw away laptops because of their soldered on midrange GPU's and plasticky chassis.
     
  32. phill1978

    phill1978 Notebook Consultant

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    Any update or news on a chassis refresh yet?

    Sager have there new one on display and its more flashy than before (still not AW level) but aimed at gamers.

    There seems to be a genuine rise in interest towards gaming laptops this year with the hardware reaching and in some cases eclipsing what most people have on their high end (read not ultra-high end) Desktop machines. There's definitely a growing market for these systems.

    will peoples living space becoming a premium and with the rise in big screen tv gaming using a laptop to connect up is more convenient and quieter than the huge 25 kilo tower case with 10 fans
     
  33. Dayue

    Dayue Newbie

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    i will like to know if there a alienware m14x r3 coming out because i am getting a alienware m14x r2 is r3 coming out this summer i rather wait for it
     
  34. Mr. Fox

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    Nobody knows that right now, Dayue. It probably will not be for a while until they announce new model information. Probably will be June or later. Anything you read in this thread is a wish or speculation.
     
  35. J.Dre

    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Considering the M14x is their best selling product, I would bet out of all of the systems, there will be an R3 for the M14x. If I were you, I would wait until the end of April. They should announce it or release it by that time.
     
  36. phill1978

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    in which case my wish list:

    front intakes are for fans and cool through the whole chassis
    1080p gloss screen but with 60% reduced reflection that is a high gamut + calibrated from factory and with a very low black point of less than 0.3 cd
    quad fire support with dual 7990m's (i know depends on cards being avaliable)
    thinner chassis by around 1cm
    couple of grams ligher
    gold plated audio connectors
    retained HDMi in with 4k input support
    no VGA, dual HDMi out + 1 DP for proper digital eyefinity
    touch screen where alienware logo resides in bezzel for quick launch apps or profiles including linux support
    full control as per windows 7 /8 for ubuntu / debian
     
  37. kenandaoer

    kenandaoer Notebook Enthusiast

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    I am really curious as well. Probably will hold my laptop purchase until April, when hopefully Alienware will release some information.
     
  38. Raidriar

    Raidriar ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

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    I'd really like to see Alienware come out with a laptop like the razer blade (minus that ridiculous switchblade ui on the keyboard). I mean, the razer blade and m14x specs aren't too far off from each other, it should be doable. if Alienware REALLY tuned their cards and system overall, I bet we could get a 15" in MBP/Razer thickness w/ a 7970m or 680m under the hood.
    Ideal system:
    under 1" thick
    quad core
    7970m/680m
    standard array of ports
    single hdd + msata
    1080p RGB display
    a chassis made out of metal. Please, no more plastic chassis, ever. My M17x R4 is squeaky, as was the R3 before it
     
  39. jeffreyac

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    This was the one deciding factor that led me to the m18x. Seems like it makes sense on so many levels - durability, stability, heat dissipation - to have an aluminum chassis. I know, it probably costs a lot more to make the body of the laptop - but I can't help but think that even a large increase in costs on the body, given the hardware we tend to stick in there, would still leave a nice profit margin for the manufacturer...
     
  40. raclimja

    raclimja Notebook Consultant

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    Do you even attended a physics class?

    Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
     
  41. jeffreyac

    jeffreyac Notebook Evangelist

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    Well, we're hoping for big breakthroughs in the field of zero-mass zero-heat system technology... :) Something quantum, perhaps...
     
  42. dandan112988

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    You sound mad.

    Sent from my SPH-L900 using Tapatalk 2
     
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    Yes i have actually, both mechanics and E&M

    Formula is simple. run card at a lower voltage, use better thermal paste from factory, triple pipe heatsink, dual cooling solutions w/ lots of vents. Might still be a little warm, but nothing compared to pentium 4 mobile days.
     
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    The pentium 4 M had a TDP of 35W, you are talking about sticking a 100W card with a 47W CPU in a super thin case.
     
  45. J.Dre

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    So, I assume no one has heard anything about the upcoming revisions. This is concerning, as many of the R2's came out in April last year. Do you think they will even announce anything before the actual release?
     
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    What and only what if they don't make a revision now until Dell is all oficially privatized and ence with big boss Dell taking full command they will make a new one?
     
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    They won't wait if Asus, MSI, Sager, and the others make a beeline out the gate with Haswell processors and the AMD8000/Nvidia 700 series GPU's. They would lose to much market share and profit even waiting a week or two.
     
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    The new hardware updates are not considered "real updates" with new designs but yes they still make a new point, still in the middle of economic crisis, tablet/smartphone boom buying and Dell going private I'm thinking they won't consider launching new things right now, maybe the new hardware inside the old systems, but not new refresh. Until they study the market and consider new tatics along with microsoft, since the big investment is coming from there, I think they won't launch or consider to invest in making or initiate production of designs already thought.
     
  49. bigtonyman

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    I'm actually expecting at least a design refresh on most of the alienware lineup. It's been the same chassis for two years now. They are going to quickly fall behind the other brands like sager and MSI if they don't come out with something to stay ahead of the pack. Something a bit more ergonomic and with some newer features for 2013 like revamped Volume keys, Higher res screens, and possibly something other than plexiglass for the screen would all be welcome additions to upgrades under the hood. Really hoping I don't have to look to sager for my next machine when haswell is released. :(
     
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    I did not mean Pentium 4-M, I meant Mobile Pentium 4. Those had a TDP range of 60-70 W of heat, with the hyper threading versions hitting as high as 88 W, and based on 130nm process.
    The 7970m doesn't pull a 100W. I've had a 6990m and a 7970m and I can tell you the 6990m definitely proved to be a 100W card. The 7970m runs much cooler, i'd spitball its a 80-85W card stock
    Apple, in its rMBP, has managed to cram a 45W cpu and 45W graphics chip in that tiny chassis. I'm sure it would be possible to put the 7970m and 3720qm in something as thick as a regular sized MBP, or a slightly thicker version of it.
     
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