Are there any new Alienware models in the works? [Speculations and Wish List]

You need a certain thickness to put a proper fan in a chassis, about P150EM levels and even that struggles once you push the card at all.

7970M is certainly a 100W card, i've measured the draw.

 

The M14x R2 was released during the third week April in 2012, so it's safe to assume we have about one month left until we see what happens. A lot of you assume Dell/Alienware will wait until the Haswell CPU and new GPU's are released, but they didn't wait for Ivy Bridge last April (2012). So, I am assuming they will not wait this time either. I hope to see some significant improvements across the line with all of their products.

I'm surprised there hasn't been any news about it... Hopefully there will be new revisions.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware-m14x/657917-m14x-r2-out-now.html
http://www.alienwarearena.com/forum...ion/so-did-they-release-the-m14x-r2-or-what-/

 

Just for arguments sake, the Razer blade laptop uses a GTX 660m, which as a 75W TDP in conjunction with a 45W TDP intel quad core CPU. surely now, with a little more engineering(better designed heatsink/fan), a 7970m/680m could fit in there. Granted, it is a 17" laptop, but still very thin for its class (kind of like the 17" MBP before it got killed)

 

My main wish is a ultra high resolution screen. Also that they use the same screen technology as Apple where they have removed one layer of the glass. (A glossy screen with 70% less reflection. Go and look at the rMBP/iMac. Its amazing.

Haswell is 3-5% faster then Ivy Bridge. Nvidia/AMD won't release new cards anytime soon, just rebrands. No wonder that PC is loosing ton of market share to ARM.

17/18 inch 4K display or 2880x1440
16 gig memory
Haswell
AMD 8 series /Nvidia 7 series graphics
No optical drive. (time to die. The space can be used for cooling, hard drive or anything else)
mSATA
I wish that MSFT would invent a Fusion drive. Since this is a wishlist: fusion drive
803.11AC gigabith WiFi, ESATA, USB3, Thunderbolt (thunderbolt is the feature. Imagine having a desktop class graphic card hooked up via Thunderbold. Thats the feature of computing.) BT 4.
quiet fans (like the genius Apple fans that have non asymmetrical blades. )
glas trackpad
LTE option internal

Remove all gimmicks like FX lighting. No numerical keypad
instead:
Aluminium casing. (great for heat reduction. A giant heat sink) custom battery (gives 30-50% more battery time)

 

It's not usually a yearly refresh. The M17x r4 came out more than a year after the r3 was available. The refresh will occur when haswell is available for launch or so I would expect. Last time frame I heard was June, but who knows.

 

I'm pretty certain Alienware/Dell won't wait. They have quotas to meet regardless of the hardware availability, so they need to put out the newest product as soon as possible. When the R2 came out the Ivy Bridge processors weren't out yet, I'm assuming this will happen again. It's possible they would wait, but I doubt they would. I don't see how much more beneficial it would be considering the small performance gain of the Haswell generation. The M14x R3 might have more USB 3.0 ports, a better screen, or whatever else. And because of this, I think consumers will jump on it regardless. Waiting a month or two could do more harm than good, they may miss out on a couple thousand M14x sales by doing so.

I wish there was some news or something to confirm this. I'm tired of posting in a speculative fashion.

 

Haswell is not backwards compatible so unless they ship it without a chipset/cpu....

 

What meaker said.

 

They'd ship with the current generation CPU.

 

if dell released a new revision now they would have to redo the mobo in about 4-5 months to get on the haswell train. its expensive to design a system, and with a new chipset they basically have to rebuild the mobo which results into another revision in itself. Dell-alienware hasn't ever done this as it very expensive to do and there isn't really a point because in less than 6 months Haswell will be out with all the benefits that that chipset brings to the table vs ivy bridge.

 

Ah, I see what you mean now. I was like, huh?

That makes sense... I had not considered that.

 

And Dell right now after their restructuring are not exactly in a position to spend that much on a new chassis are they?

 

These sorts of things have been discussed time and again in this thread and many others. Issues with your current list of wishes:



Until GPU tech gets better its truly not worthwhile to push for higher res screens. Resolution gives the biggest hit performance wise (Try changing a game between 720p and 1080p and check out the FPS change). So pushing for a super high PPI screen on a gaming notebook is silly unless gaming isn't your thing, in which case, why did you want a gaming notebook?

16GB is a ridiculous amount of ram. Unless you are doing loads of video editing its pretty useless to have more than 8GB.

Haswell is a given, as are new GPU's

The optical drive will always be useful, but you are correct that its not needed in newer notebooks.

MSATA is already in the current gen.

Well apple didn't even invent fusion drive, they just created a OSX version of caching SSD's and branded it Fusion Drive. So there are windows compatible versions of "Fusion Drive".

I'm assuming you're talking about 802.11ac, rather than 803.11ac, as 803 is a completely different classification and not actually wireless at all. The 802.11ac standard hasn't hit a point where its actually cost effective for companies to offer it in products. ESATA and USB3.0 are already included in the current gen. Thunderbolt only started appearing on PC motherboards in the second half of last year, so its possible the next revision could have it.

Quiet fans??? The apple fans are quiet because they are tiny (take a look at the inside of a MBP or rMBP if you don't believe me). Having non asymmetrical blades doesn't actually cool the machine much better than normal fans (in fact I'm not sure it helps at all).

The trackpad I'm not sure about, its possible for them to use a glass one, but I doubt they will.

LTE is a bit unreasonable, we don't even have 3g in most laptops these days, so I seriously doubt they would include LTE.

The lighting doesn't take up space so I'm not sure why you're against it. I'm not sure if you want a numeric keypad or not?

And lastly Aluminium casing is terrible for heat reduction (ask anyone who has had a MBP) unless the machine has heaps of room to breathe.



FYI this is not criticism, just pointing out the feasibility of your points. And I am not apple bashing as I actually own a MBP and a polycarbonate macbook white as well as my M17x and they are all great machines built for different purposes.

 

M18x could do with a 120hz screen or 1440p imo. Plenty of horse power with 2x680m.

 

I think the 18 is gone. Most likely the new lineup is having touchscreens and an 18 inch touch screen may push costs too much. M17x with sli makes more sense

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Hope this isn't the case. I like my single GPU systems with the larger 17" screen. No need for a touchscreen on a full out gaming machine after all. Just makes it even easier to get crap all over the screen.

 

even 1440p is overkill on 18" given viewing distance. I remember playing Halflife 2 with some texture mods and on a 21.5" LCD @ 1080p is was VERY crisp there was no way i could see the pixels ! ok so you sit closer to a laptop but at 18" your also a bit further away than a 17" (well about a half inch maybe) so in reality the only thing an 18" screen needs as clearly size does not matter is 1200p and a 16:10 aspect ratio.

again a 1440p screen will drop performance around 30-40% so your top settings have to go in the place of pixels you couldn't see in the first place!

a waste imo , and external 27" 1440p would be more suitable running dual screen with the laptop being 15 / 17" @ 1080p


what we really need is decent quality panels not more pixels !! it just so happens those that go for more pixels tend to have a bit better quality panels.

Just think about it LED-IPS or VA @ 120hz with a lack of backlight glow, high contrast, superb colour saturation and acuracy and low input response times

 

Agreed!! Lets get a nice 100% RGB display in all these rigs

 

All of these cut-corners (reflective screen, keyboard, speakers, cooling) make me wonder where the "Alienware tax" goes.

 

It would be nive if at least 3 external displays were supported too.

 

there wasn't any sign of the m18x in the leaked pic thread. Methinks they may have discontinued it, and perhaps they will be bringing back the dual GPU option to the m17x.
Perhaps m17x customization will work like the AW Aurora desktop does. If you just want a cheaper, one GPU m17x, you go wit the standard chassis. If you want a dual GPU, higher end one, you go for an m17x with an ALX chassis. Slightly thicker, beefier cooling, maybe aluminum. 200-300$ more.

It would make sense for them to go back to having the dual GPU's in a 17 inch laptop because there are way more screen options in that size category. 120Hz 3-D, high gamut glossy/matte options, higher resolutions possibly. And it would be cheaper to produce them and they would be less unwieldy.

 

Agreed. Either that or I wish I could just find a high quality 18.4" 1080p monitor somewhere. I'd buy two and stick one on either side of my M18x lol.

 

A 120hz screen would be nice. The sli setups can definitely push 120fps in most games + it's easier on the eyes too.

 

Indeed, the Sager NP9370 is a dual card 17 inch laptop, and it has oodles of screen options, including 120Hz 3-d, which runs very well on dual 680m's.

 

That would be nice... AW really needs some better screen options, so hopefully they'll add some this year. I'm still going to be really bummed if they discontinue the M18x though... especially if there isn't a model with an aluminum chassis.

 

Aren't the screen options mostly from resellers? As a business, it seems detrimental to offer a ton of screen options due to cost, possibly re-supply issues when one model runs out, lower volume discounts, higher cost to support, etc...

 

Its called predicting the market. There are people with size 18 feet, but the shoe store doesn't keep hundreds of pairs of size 18 shoes in stock. They keep roughly the amount they know/believe will get sold (which is a small number). Sales prediction is something all companies do.
A company like Dell has little to worry about when in comes to re-supply issues, because they are so big, they would get priority over any small reseller.

 

Well we haven't seen anything on the new m17x r5 other than that pic that shows nothing but a slightly different lid design. I wouldn't mind getting a dual card m17x if it had the same build quality and cooling ability as the m18x does. I know what you mean though. Before I got my current 17" lappy i had an 18 incher and it was awesome for movie watching. It also hah 90% gamut which I really miss tough the current screen makes up for it somewhat with the extra brightness and contrast.

It would be nice to see a 120hz IPS panel in the next sli machine from AW. They've always been disappointing with the screen options and the quality of their panels. That's the only thing Clevo has on them.

 

That's true. They used to do better with the RGB 1920x1200 monitors, but they've really fallen behind in that regard. I remember back when I was shopping around for a single gpu notebook and I ended up with the NP9150 even though I wanted an AW. I just thought the glossy panel on the m17x would really bother me (it didn't once I finally got one, but I still would have preferred a high quality matte option.)

 

Ohh yeah! I completely forgot about those. Now that's what I wanna see! If they started doing 17" sli notebooks again they could give the option for screens they use on their workstation laptops.

Btw. They use that glass panel to hide the low quality of their screens(low compared to what it should be,still much better than most other brands like Asus's G series). It makes them look better while with a mat screen the quality of the panel would need to be really high because there's no gloss to amp it up. That's why I love to see those high gamut mat screens. They're actually good. Not just amped up cheap junk(not saying all glossy screens are like that but many certainly are).

The screen is extremely important. In fact it's just as important as the gpu's since if you have a crap screen you can't enjoy all the extra eye candy the high end gpu's provide.

 

You can on the M17x and M18x, you just need an active mini DP to dvi cable.

 

They need to kill the optical drive. Doing that alone will give them more than enough room for a 2nd GPU and have it cooled properly.

 

Not on the M14X at the moment and only if you disable optimus/enduro on the 17 and 18, but the new intel chips look to support more than 2 anyway so that will solve it for them completely anyway, I was more meaning on the M14x.

 

Sadly I don't think dell will ever support more than 2 displays for the M14x just for the fact that very few laptops have more than 2 display out ports so it probably wouldn't be cost effective for them to add an extra one. But here's to hoping anyway.

 

I was just concerned regarding the dell buyout 2013 which would then result in privatization in organisation...Is it true then Dell will exit from PC market completely based on information on google...

Also, has anyone got any update on Alienware LineUp 2013....As I am willing to order an system for my self...M18X R3 probably....

 

Below is the wikipedia link

Dell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

in the buyout section 2013 over the 2nd last paragraph we can read " Gartner has warned that this may include Dell leaving the PC market entirely.[55]"

Deos that mean No more Alienware systems as well in near future

 

Wut, what other stuff are they selling? I thought they only sold computers...

 

they also sell a lot of server based equipment as well for use in data centers.

Well that 2 billion loan from Microsoft I think was to keep Dell in the PC market, but I guess we shall see what happens.

 

Yeap agree with you...Does any body have an idea about Alienware Lineup 2013

 

Does anybody has any idea if Alienware is changing the chassis & design of the machine in 2013. As, the current chassis is almost 5yrs old now since 2009. Please provide links of leak details

 

there is a leak thread on the front page right now.

 

Leak thread on front page... I didn't get you...Are you talking about new designs upcoming

 

its changed quite a bit actually when Dell released the M17x r3 and the M18x, but I agree it they have been pretty similar.

 

I'm happy with the styling, though... I guess I'd just be kind of bummed if this year gets a huge revision across the model line and it wasn't an improvement over what we've got now.

 

Coming back to the question posted in the thread itself, "Are their any new Alien ware laptops in work"....Does anybody got an external leak details on the link...

Are changing the design this time....Cuz I am planning to get the second for myself, Currently I have M17X R2 & wish to take M18X....Is it worth to wait a while...Please recommend or advice?

 

well nobody really knows at this point. There has been some "leaks" but they looked like prototypes to me. We won't know what alienware has up their sleeve till they decided to release some info.

 

You'd think, that in a thread about new Alienware hardware, that if anyone found something relating to new Alienware hardware, it would be posted. It's not like people have information about it and aren't telling you (with the exception of Dell/Alienware themselves, obviously)

 

I know that but my issue why are they delaying the launch. I mean last year new lineups where released in April & a year before that as well....But why this time is it taking so long, I am in state of wonder..

 

Guys, out of thread question if anyone of you could help me...I have read a lot that GPU's have lifespan & then they begin to die eventually....Is Nvidia better in terms of long-life or AMD.......

 

I'm not even going to answer that...

Edit: Nope, couldn't resist: It's March, what delay could you possibly be talking about?