Cannot get 4850's to work in M17

Yeah I gave that one ago moo but with the same outcome. I was just looking again at the device ID and noticed it actually has 4 of them.

PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_944A&SUBSYS_207A161F&REV_00
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_944A&SUBSYS_207A161F
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_944A&CC_030000
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_944A&CC_0300

Dont know if its relevant or not.

 

? where did you get those device id's from ?

can you dum the BIOS off the cards and upload them here?

 

They are what come up when you select properties then show hardware ID. Never done that before so may need a little pointer

 

to get the BIOS you just oen GPU Z and there will be a little icon on the part right beside the vendors it will be like a green arrow just click that and save them ....need both cards

to change card the little drop down menu at the bottom will let you

then upload them

 

Right I think I have them now for you. Hmmm where to upload them to. Can i just email them to you moo

 

media fire then onto here so every one can look @ them

i wanna fire up a bios editor and look @ them

 

Ok mate just be two mins then

 

http://www.mediafire.com/?nlgxezn0nze
http://www.mediafire.com/?4tmmfv2zylx

Thats it both done

 

humm im looking taking awhile to get every thing since im away from my computer and i went over my download limit so they crippled me

 

ok 500/800 on the clocks

Master Slave setup
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pics coming

 

just a thought

marshall have you tried to install the driver under compatability mode.

try few different settings if you havent. i.e for xp . win 2000 ect.

 

that won't work ... the issue is the CCC not finding his cards...


EDIT here

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you can still install the driver without the need for ccc moo i think,

ive done this before when messings with beta drivers bud maybe wrong just throwing ideas in marshall way

 

yea you can useing the have disc way

 

Have tried compatability mode and have disk method but just get the usual message saying best driver is already installed.

 

uninstall the best drivers and put the ones that were in the AW package on there

show that system who is boss

 

Problem is that the aw ones always give me an error when I try installing them. Always says install manager failed to initialize DCM!!! And failed to initialize package manager then the installation ends.

 

dont suppose you got copy of xp do you marshall.... just looking online and some people having simular problem changing their cards as well upgrading em and then unable to get the drivers to accept.

i know its a big fanny but just a thought using defferent operating system.

 

hi bud have a look here to see if your dcm error is like any of these
http://www.yourdolphin.com/knowledgebase.asp?act=display&pg=&ksearch=&id=119

 

Cheers for that KC but the fault codes I get are not listed there

 

have you used a/w 4850 driver for the m17?

http://support.alienware.co.uk/Supp...wnloads_processed.aspx?os=&cat=54&manu=&item=

scroll down to the 4850

you may have this already bud ..... im just keep on throwing ideas at you sorry if you have these already

 

Yeah gave them ago and they are the ones throwing up the error messages. And any idea is good idea and worth trying.

 

well im of to get drunk at a christening..... hope you fix it by the time i get back

 

Running out of patience now so trying to decide if i should just take them out and burn them or not

 

Just put your 3870s in and as soon as AW starts selling 4850s again you could phone and ask about it...

 

To be fair that looks like the only option I think. So frustrating though. Annoying as well as im sure its only a case of a simple mod for a driver but clearly need someone with good knowledge of driver modding to take a look. Moo is looking at it I think at present so will see what he comes up with.

 

Haha Moo doesn't mod drivers... he is getting Vicious or Zfactor to look at them... your best bet is to talk to them... also supposedly the 4850's weren't even supposed to go out yet, and the ones that did were by accident... becuase they weren't finished or something? anyway I'm sure the issue will be resolved soon, either drivers will come or they will get you new cards

 

Marshall you're getting DCM errors with those AW drivers yeah?
Exactly the same error when i tried to run the programme; its a flaw with the self extracting process used (DOH!)

Get winrar, open the alienware setup programme with Winrar, this will allow you to copy the contents of the self extracting exe OUT of it; this is how I got into the inf files
Copy everything inside it into a folder, then run the setup from the extracted files. This will solve the DCM errors; basically the AW auto-unzipper deletes the temp files too quickly; you're getting errors because files are missing.

So
1) Download Winrar and install it (associate it with all except .zip)
2) Right click the AW driver pack and click Open with Winrar
3) Select everything in there with a held left mouse button, THEN drag these contents to a new folder (should be 5 sub folders, and multiple files into the root folder)
4) Run setup.exe from the new, unzipped folder (once unzipped, you wont get DCM errors).
5) Cross your fingers; as you should now be able to use Alienware drivers


Good luck

If you're having any issues from there, let me know.

 

Man good luck Marhsall, I feel your pain bro. Hopefuly with all the brain power on the forum it will work out

 

Just incase you have any problems with opening and extracting via Winrar, I'm going to re-upload a zipped version of the files to Rapidshare, which should be easier for you to extract; however it's going to take an hour or so to upload; so I'd suggest trying yourself first! haha

Link: http://rapidshare.com/files/260227692/Alienware_Drivers.zip.html

Annoyingly for me a week ago I was on a business class ADSL line, so would have uploaded about twice as fast...DOH!

 

Hopefully Mobility Modder will have a version for the 4000 series soon. There is a very big demand at the moment for a Mobility Modder that's compatible with the 4000 series ao it's safe to say that they will be developing one.

 

Success at last. Alex I did what you said and used winrar to extract the driver and it installed flawlessly. Definately plus rep for you buddy. Just need to wait now for Mob Modder to support 4000 series cards and that will be the icing on the cake. Will run a couple of benchmarks but dont expect alot as obviously using old drivers. 8.57 I think.

 

I ask how is the situation on the upgrade:

 

Im really really happy that worked for you mate, glad I could help
I'll finish uploading these drivers (80% done) now though, that way anyone else who needs them can use the zipped rather than the semi-broken Alienware installer!
The 8.57s are old drivers, and yeah, mobility modder will be great.


OH, might be worth going into CCC and setting Catalyst AI to advanced. I think that worked better for Crossfire on earlier drivers as it forced games without true profile support to attempt AFR, rather than single GPU usage. Try it with an without and see if it makes a difference

Also (sorry to keep talking) if you have 3dmark Vantage, could you run that and tell us what your *GPU* score is under performance preset (once the test is complete; it should show Total, GPU and CPU scores), Im really interested to see how these things fair up against my desktop card

Again glad to hear you're up and working mate, sorry, if I'd realised that's what the issue you were having was I would have fed back the information about extracting last night.

 

+1 rep to Alex for the good work...not to mention all the other guys!

 

bench bench bench

Well done Alex

 

Oh, sorry to jump in one more time
Now you've managed to get A driver set installed; might be worth taking a shot to see if those 9.7 drivers will install.
If you check for W7 64 bit drivers for Mobility 4 series they come up (on the amd direct site, unfortunately the game.amd.com site doesn't have a 'card finder'), so might install now...maybe not but worth a shot!

 

WOOHOO!! Congrats on getting the cards working. Drooling for benchies now

 

Well there is actualy still a slight problem. Both cards are installed as are the drivers and the CCC. But the second card has a yellow triangle. This is a known issue with ati drivers for win 7 and was addressed in 9.5 and later. So any benchies will be on one card only. And for those who dont know AW would release a laptop with no driver support a I bought an M9750 back in the day and when it was relesed there was no SLI support for it. Had to wait a few months for support.

 

Still interesting to see the benches, to see how the 1GB version compares to the 512MB brother

Is it possible to force install the driver for the second card?


Also, I've uploaded those pre-extracted drivers, so I'm updating the link on the last page now.
Am going to get it reuploaded to a collectors account with rapidshare too, because apparently only 10 people can download it without it being uploaded to collectors

 

i just sent you 9.4 inf files but since you have it working, just leave it as it is.

 

Oh, sorry, another quick question - what do GPU-Z or CCC count as your native clocks? Just wondering if the 1GB version still uses 500/800 clocks, or whether they've altered them at all? (Faster would be nice, but slower wouldn't be a surprise either!)

 

Now all you gotta do is get the second 4850 working.

However considering the 4000 series is meant to be twice as powerful as the 3000 series...you're looking at better performance with your 4850 than the dual 3870s.

 

i have to download 9.5 since he says it works and mod that driver

 

Yeah 9.5 or greater would be perfect Don. Clocks are at 500/800 and idle temps are 50 at the moment on high performance which is quite good

 

ok i'm downloading it.

also, what's your cpu and system specs.

and check out project freeze for ideas of cooling. it's not finish or finalized. just some thoughts we put together.

 

thats actually 1-2 degrees lower than my 3870 That seems nice

 

Mhhm, should be fine at that temp. It's what mine sits idle at with 3870s on High Performance.

 

i'll downloaded it but i have to tweak it and modd some stuff in there it's 10:38am where i am what time is it for you so i know what's up.

 

Don my specs are obviously 4850's x2 x9100 4gb Ram 2x500gb hdd 1920x1200. Its 15:45 in the afternoon over here.