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    How to run 9.3 on the M17 (Vista & W7)

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by julian-nold, Mar 20, 2009.

  1. CooLMinE

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    manually typing the url E ? :eek:

    You missed a letter :p
     
    CooLMinE, Mar 22, 2009
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    doh :) lemme get that

    Thanks ;)
     
    E-wrecked, Mar 22, 2009
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    WTG E!!!
    i just re hooked up my subs and now imma install a driver this is going to be a good night lol .
     
    The_Moo™, Mar 22, 2009
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    lol..nice..well one sec tho man. Lemme throw some tweaks on it and upload a new 64bit too
     
    E-wrecked, Mar 22, 2009
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    lol i kinda have to wait dont i :p
     
    The_Moo™, Mar 22, 2009
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    E-wrecked, Mar 22, 2009
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    ok..just re-uploaded the 64bit version. I forgot scaling on one of em. so re-download. :)
     
    E-wrecked, Mar 22, 2009
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    im off to bed though. It's late. Hope those work out for you guys. Please let me know. Thanks. I'll drop by in the morning to see if everything went ok. Nite
     
    E-wrecked, Mar 22, 2009
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  9. The_Moo™

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    thanks 2 mins left on this cd then booting into safe mode to uninstall. i gotta do it any way i gotta get a annoying virus :D

    nite
     
    The_Moo™, Mar 22, 2009
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  10. CooLMinE

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    Meh, close one. Display driver installed, CCC installed, custom resolutions are there, scaling problem is there :(
     
    CooLMinE, Mar 22, 2009
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    doh. so no luck scaling but all else worked? POS. :) I'd love to hang and fix it.. but Ive been up for almost 24 hours. I'll do this for ya tomorrow, I promise. it won't take much.
     
    E-wrecked, Mar 22, 2009
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  12. CooLMinE

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    Hehe take your time :p been a while since i updated my drivers :p Waiting a little while wont hurt :)
     
    CooLMinE, Mar 22, 2009
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    E your da man :D

    Driver Packaging Version 8.591-090225a-076829C-ATI
    Catalyst™ Version 09.3
    Provider ATI Technologies Inc.
    2D Driver Version 8.01.01.882
    2D Driver File Path /REGISTRY/MACHINE/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Control/CLASS/{4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}/0000
    Direct3D Version 8.14.10.0647
    OpenGL Version 6.14.10.8543
    Catalyst™ Control Center Version 2009.0225.1546.28221
     
    The_Moo™, Mar 22, 2009
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    YEAR! MR.Moo got it worke as well! N1

    Can you make 1280x720 be fullscreen (with little black bars on top and botom)?

    I realiced that I have no problem on Vista, but on W7.

    Greeings
    Julian
     
    julian-nold, Mar 22, 2009
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  15. AtolSammeek

    AtolSammeek Tokay Gecko

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    I know this sound funny how can you be banned yet still post?
     
    AtolSammeek, Mar 22, 2009
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  16. CooLMinE

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    Sounds funny, for the wrong reasons :p

    Custom title :)
     
    CooLMinE, Mar 22, 2009
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    That works for me.
     
    AtolSammeek, Mar 22, 2009
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    What do I need for this? 800 Posts?

    Greetings
    Julian
     
    julian-nold, Mar 22, 2009
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  19. CooLMinE

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    700 but it takes a while before the option gets enabled :)
     
    CooLMinE, Mar 22, 2009
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    Nope, only 700. Just PM a mod and ask them to upgrade your account to a Senior Member account :) then you can edit it..along with a couple other benefits.

    I'm not gonna be able to edit the driver right this second.. I gotta get some stuff handled and may have to go into work. But by this afternoon/evening I'll have more time to get back on.
     
    E-wrecked, Mar 22, 2009
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  21. CooLMinE

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    When i hit 700 they told me it wasnt necessary to pm one and that it automatically changes. In my case it took about a day :p
     
    CooLMinE, Mar 22, 2009
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  22. The_Moo™

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    yup no need to pm i bet chaz hates that :p i did it to him :D
     
    The_Moo™, Mar 22, 2009
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  23. Mortemia

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    Good work Julian, very smooth installation guide! And thanks for E on tweaking the infs!

    Got the 9.3 on 64bit Vista working. Big thanks to you both!

    EDIT: And these drivers finally fixed the rendering bug I was having while doing 3d stuff. A BIG f***ing thanks guys! :D
     
    Mortemia, Mar 22, 2009
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    congrats.. now if only scaling worked.. ;P I'm off to go shopping. I'll be on later.
     
    E-wrecked, Mar 22, 2009
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    GL & HF :)
    Am I allowed to put you tweaked inf. in the guid without quoteing? ;)

    Greetings
    Julian
     
    julian-nold, Mar 22, 2009
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    you know you can :p anyone wanna test scaling?
     
    E-wrecked, Mar 22, 2009
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  27. Mortemia

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    Well, I can switch between different resolutions but I'll get black borders around game window... The smaller resolution, the bigger borders.
     
    Mortemia, Mar 23, 2009
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    Gonna have to try this driver tommorow. Great job guys!
     
    FoxTrot1337, Mar 23, 2009
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  29. The_Moo™

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    dont have the issue E sorry :p
     
    The_Moo™, Mar 23, 2009
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    I have the scaling issu on W7 so when you have a soltuion, I'll give it a shot!

    Greetings
    Julian
     
    julian-nold, Mar 23, 2009
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    This happens when scaling is working :)

    Greetings
    Julian
     
    julian-nold, Mar 23, 2009
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    So scaling now works with E-wreceked's new changes?
     
    me12345, Mar 23, 2009
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    As MR.Moo and Mortems expereinced, yes^^

    Greeting
    Julian
     
    julian-nold, Mar 23, 2009
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  34. Mortemia

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    Yeah isn't it weird when I run a game in full window using for example 1680x1050 resolution, the game view only goes smaller and the black borders appear? Like I'm in game with 1920x1200 resolution but the game is smaller. I don't know if I know how to explain it.

    I've never had this kind of problem.
     
    Mortemia, Mar 23, 2009
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    Are the black bars all around or only on top and botom?

    Or aren't there black bars @ all?

    Greetings
    Julian
     
    julian-nold, Mar 23, 2009
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  36. Mortemia

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    This is how for example FEAR2 looks in 1680x1050 resolution:
    [​IMG]
     
    Mortemia, Mar 23, 2009
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    Ok this shows me YOU HAVE the scaling problem^^

    I hope I explain it right ... but you see what you selected^^

    You said you are running it on 1680x1050, so you see 1680x1050 pixsels ...


    [​IMG]
    Here you can see what the problem is:
    You have selected "CENTERED" ... and now try to select Preserve Aspect Ratio (when 1680x1050 is 16:9 than you will have black bars on tob and botom but not a "smaler" pictuer, you will have a bigger picture, full screen but not "streched" (looks horrible^^)

    Now to the driverproblem ... when you try to select PAR what happens? For me I get a black screen and than "CENTERED" is selected again :(

    => scaling problem ...

    Edit: try the new inf. from E-wrecked! It should fix scaling problems on Vista (I have W7 ... :( )
    http://ewrecked.darksmileysystems.com/64bittweaks.zip

    Greetings
    Julian
     
    julian-nold, Mar 23, 2009
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  38. Mortemia

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    Nah, I don't get it. I try both Full screen and Preserve Aspect Ratio, but all my games now have black borders when I use smaller than 1920x1200 resolution. I really don't know how to solve the problem.
     
    Mortemia, Mar 23, 2009
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  39. Mortemia

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    Well I made clean install once more just to be sure, but the problem still exists. I used the E's tweaked INF files when installing the drivers like you say Julian, then installed the CCC that came with older driver package.

    Am I the only one Vista 64bit user with this problem or are you guys waiting for us to be labrats? :)
     
    Mortemia, Mar 23, 2009
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    no i installed fine and it works .... try the newer version of CCC other then that you gotta be missing soemthing...
     
    The_Moo™, Mar 23, 2009
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    Moo never has this problem since he doesnt use a 1920x1200 monitor :)

    Dont worry about that its a common issue that we all have. The only successful drivers to solve that at the moment is 8.12, 9.1 (modded by E) and the AW drivers. Not sure if we got 9.12 working (bad memory :p).

    Waiting for E to drop the scaling fix lines in the .inf and upload it so we can give it a go ;)
     
    CooLMinE, Mar 23, 2009
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  42. The_Moo™

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    he thought he did fix it

    how do you know i dont connect to my 1080p tv???
     
    The_Moo™, Mar 23, 2009
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  43. CooLMinE

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    Not sure if scaling issue still happens on external monitors. The external monitor might force your screen to scale either way so thats another subject. But people not having the scaling issue means they dont use the 1920x screen, since as you can see the rest of us do have the problem :)

    Except if people believe some of M17's screens are "special" of course :p
     
    CooLMinE, Mar 24, 2009
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    :Eek: are you now?

    i was jp i dont use it .... i like my 1440 32 inch samsung and my 17 inch 1440 M17 :D
     
    The_Moo™, Mar 24, 2009
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  45. CooLMinE

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    I always liked 1680x1050 soooo much :( Even on my old laptop i could resize the desktop resolution to that without losing the quality of the screen. On the M17 resizing the desktop to anything else than the native resolution results in really crappy and blurry images/fonts, sadly :(
     
    CooLMinE, Mar 24, 2009
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  46. The_Moo™

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    im sorry i offer my condolences

    btw congratz on 800 :D
     
    The_Moo™, Mar 24, 2009
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  47. CooLMinE

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    Haha thank you :p But you still beat me with like 1k posts even though we registered the same month :D
     
    CooLMinE, Mar 24, 2009
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    Yarr. Thanks for the info CooLMinE. I was so close on going crazy. I kept asking my M17 "why you?".

    Tried even 3 different CCCs. And now I'm late for work. :D
     
    Mortemia, Mar 24, 2009
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  49. CooLMinE

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    I thought it wouldn't work... I mean scaling ... but I played WIC Demo right now and it sclaed^^ ok I have the 1440x900 screen but in CCC I can NOT select it right^^

    weard^^

    Greetings
    Julian
     
    julian-nold, Mar 24, 2009
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