Killer Wireless Discussion Thread - Look for Solutions and Ask Questions Here

Hi,

So basically you're running the latest drivers from that page... Actually I installed those drivers last night but I will not be able to try them until I get home in a couple of hours. I assumed you haven't had any stability issues since you installed the latest drivers, is that right? If so, I am glad you did it as I have seen you have done a lot of research in order to get this to work properly.

Do I need to check/uncheck anything else in the killer network manager? I remember you mentioned something about "automatic updates" days ago. Should I keep it checked? How about the options under the "advanced options" tab in the devices manager? Do I have to uncheck bandwidth control and prevent the killer manager from loading on start up?

As for the router Im using yes, I guess its a cheap crappy one since its the one my ISP supplies... What router would you recommend me to look at?

Thank you very much and my apologies for so many questions but I haven't seen any recent update on how the latest drivers are working...

Regards.

 

Latest drivers seem the most stable so far, I for my home setup my card is too good the the crap router and it can't keep it up with it at times. I use pretty much stock drivers with the killer network manager software disabled pretty much.

I think its the cheap router since I was on another network for a while and had stable connection even at low strengths on a good router. I personally have had great experience with the apple airport extreme base station, the antenna and range is one of the best on the market at the moment. Otherwise a good router should be fine, one that supports 450mb/s transmit rate and dual band 5ghz and 2.4ghz as well.

But see how the latest drivers work so far. They have been the most stable for me so far.

 

I bought a Netgear WNDR3700 to set up with my crappy ISP router and use the ISP router (Sky SR101) as a modem only. I've only heard good things about them. I suppose there are better ones available now but at the time, it was a good one. Linksys E4200 was another good one on my list....still, I haven't set up the Netgear yet LOL....

 

Hi again and thank you so much for your advices.

I'll update the thread as soon as I get good or bad results (hopefully good ones) with the new network configuration. However, I'll be ordering a brand router with those specifications by this week so I can test everything out next week as I will have plenty of time for it.

Regards.

 

Running the latest dell drivers with gaming mode disabled and not having a single issue with dropouts or slow net speeds.

 

I was having a similar issue where I was always getting disconnections and spikes. Dell replaced my killer wifi card but the problem remained. I uninstalled the killer drivers completely (using the killer uninstaller), removed every single apple software (I.e. iTunes) from my computer, and ran ccleaner to clean registeries. I then installed the old Dell driver for the wireless card. Here is the link for it: http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/19/driverdetails?driverid=2J8N4
My internet has been working like a charm ever since.

 

Sounds good keep us updated, been having drop outs, but I think it might be the routers fault, not being able to keep up with the card. Made the router old school 802.11b/g mode not 802.11n and its not dropped out so far if that helps you. Might be worth changing to those settings on your router as well if you get a drop out.

EDIT: dropped out even with the speed at a maximum theoretical 54mbps.

Been reading into it, its not just the network card struggling its the router as well. I read online that setting a static IP address might help. Set one for me, and its been ok for now.

 

Hi guys,

First off, I have to say my connection is much more stable than ever before but it ended up dropping out. I have done two tests:

1.- I have been playing custom warcraft 3 maps with some friends in LAN and I ended up being the only one (out of 3 players) being disconnected from the game *. In this case, there were around 6 devices connected to the router, 3 laptops and 3 phones and tablets and I was the only one unable to load a single web page on my browser due to the "limited conectivity" issue.

2.- Same scenario, this time being the only player in the game. Dropped out by loading a lot of youtube videos at 1080p and finally got the "limited connectivity" thing. However, I was not disconnected from the game and was able to keep playing. Weird?

* I was the only one using a Killer 1103.

All this lead me to agree with you that it is more a router related issue not being able to keep it up with the Killer card. Did the 802.11 b/g mode change do the trick? So, is it worth buying a brand new router with all the requirements needed and try to get the card to work fine? It seems you keep dropping out even with a good router, am I right?

I have also read about setting a static address:

source: wireless - Alienware Arena Forums --> message 37.

You had participated in this thread as well.

Regards.

 

Buy one of the Intel Ultimate-N 6300 WiFi cards that I posted links to in the main thread for this. I don't believe there is a solution at this time, and for $20~ it's not worth fighting the problem.

 

Yeah I curerntly connect to a cheap router, thing is even being under heavy load on my phone mobile hotspot it didnt drop out, but heavy traffic on the router would result in limited connectivity.

Lowering the bandwidth speed by only using 802.11b/g didnt help, it still dropped out. Cheap thomson TWG870 is the router I have to work with.

Gonna buy a decent router and see if that helps. I don't get a dropout under laod with a good router, but with that thompson router, no matter what settings I use on it, it will drop out. Going to buy a new router today, see if that does the trick.

 

Thanks Mr.Prodigy!

I may just have to do that Mr. Fox... read all 19 pages of the main thread and many people ended up doing that. It's just that I had some unpleasant experiences with the same card on my XPS L502x, so I'm rather hesitant about going for that option too

 

Hi,

That makes sense to me because I thought you connected to a good router and still dropped out. I got a question for bigtonyman, what router are you using?

What do you think about this router? TL-WDR4300 - Welcome to TP-LINK
Seems that it meets all the requirements needed by far and also has a good price (75 € in my country. Here are some links in case you might be interested:

Review: TP-Link TL-WDR4300 N750 Dual-Band Wireless Router Review - TP-Link TL-WDR4300 Dual-Band Router - Legit Reviews
Amazon.com: Amazon.com: TP-LINK TL-WDR4300 Wireless N750 Dual Band Router, Gigabit, 2.4GHz 300Mbps+5Ghz 450Mbps, 2 USB port, Wireless On/Off Switch: Computers & Accessories

If you have any other recommendation let me know. Thanks.

 

larrythesimpleton has a bunch of n6300's for sale in the Marketplace, if you want one: http://forum.notebookreview.com/com...fs-intel-6300-wireless-lan-card-qty-10-a.html $22.50 shipped to the US - International Shipping available too, from what he says....

 

I'm using a Linksys Wireless G router so it's far from top of the line. got a ton of laptops, phones and tablets connected as well and never have connectivity issues.

 

Hey,

I'm trying to play with some friends in LAN with no luck. Connection drops out eventually sometimes ealier others later. Of course I am the target of all their jokes "LOL a 2000 € laptop and can't even play warcraft 3 with your friends!". Anyway, I have bought a router (the one I linked before) and I will be able to test my stability next week.

DDDenniZZZ , keep us updated as soon as you can try your new router. Thanks!

 

Thanks for the recommendation Steve However I decided on a last-attempt driver install, and if that does not work, then opting for a powerline connection. My card is perfectly usable in normal day-to-day activities, except when downloading massive files and gaming. As for the latter, wireless can never win over wired, so might as well spend the same amount of money on a powerline and an ethernet cable. Haven't read about any issued with wired connections with the Killer card on the main thread, so hopefully this will solve my issue. I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks for the help everyone! +1 rep each

 

Bought a new router, been stable to far, just to not mess up or config other computers, I've made it a private network just for myself. Looks like its been stable as well, even when heavy downloading only time will tell if it was a good investment. I ended up getting a new Apple Airport Express which is pretty good, its a simultaneous dual band router. Have tried stressing the network and its been fine so far.

 

Just an update from the other thread, I upgraded my router and haven't had any drop outs since. Powerlines are cheap too at around £20 for a cheap one will do, or buy a semi decent Simulataneuos Dual Band router if possible.

 

Thanks for the headsup Denis! I got an Asus RT-N56u router so I don't think it's the router which is a problem. Hopefully the powerline will solve the problem once and forever, only got to figure out how to route the ethernet cable as the port on the laptop is on the opposite side. Thanks for your help on the main thread, meant no offence with opening this one - it's just that I had already tried all the tips you suggested, to no avail

 

No worries, just make sure you get a 200mbps+ powerline, check the reviews also, but you might as well try the cheaper ones as well onnetworks sells cheap ones here in the UK. I was going to go down the powerline route but its not practical for me. Ended up getting an Apple Airport Express which does the job well, and has had a stable connection so far. Only thing I can think of is to up the channel bandwidth, the cheap thomson router had it set to 20Mhz but you can go up to 40Mhz and see if that helps.

 

I left this stray thread alone for a bit as a courtesy. Putting the discussion in the official Killer wireless problem thread where it belongs now.

 

This, to me, looked like a good one - and relatively cheap along with supporting 500mps! : TP-Link TL-PA411KIT 500Mbps Mini Powerline Adapter.. | Ebuyer.com

 

Hi,

I tried that last night with no success, it dropped out anyway. Glad to see that a new router fixed the problems. Keep us updated as you test your connection.

 

Maybe you should try the same and see if that helps you as well.

 

Yeah, I ordered a new router yesterday so I hope my connection will be fine. I won't find it out until next week that I will receive it and have a good bandwidth to try it out although I didn't know anything about powerlines to be honest...

Thanks for the heads up anyway and keep us updated on how it is going. I'll do the same asap

 

What routers are people without issues using? I just ordered a 6300, so I'm hoping I didn't just order it when all I need is a different router. For what it's worth, I'm currently using an AT&T U-Verse router+modern combo (I'll post the exact model when I get home).
I'm experiencing pretty bad lag spikes/connection drops when playing Diablo 3. However, I believe the lag spikes are a result of micro connection drops. Whenever I start to lag badly, the network meter widget I've got on my desktop reports 0 Kb/s up and down for a second or so, even though I'm Skyping (audio only) and never lose the call.
I have gone into Device Manager and unticked the power management already and disabled game optimization in the Killer software, but I'm still having issues. I haven't tried the aforementioned custom values, though.
Also, I'm on Win 7 64-bit

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Well, that's a pretty common symptom of drop out that happens to me every time I have limited connectivity. It all starts to lag until it freezes completely... In case you are interested, I have ordered this router in order to fix my stability problems finally

Router: TL-WDR4300 - Welcome to TP-LINK

Regards.

 

New router (Apple Airport Express) is working fine so far, even have my gaming optimisations etc switched back on as well. no issues so far. I would definitely get a new decent router if you can. The bundled ones with your ISP aren't the best tbh. They usually make a big fuss saying they are 802.11n but they are based on cheap components usually. Get a nice dedicated router, use your ISP router as the modem basically. Works fine for me so far. Even when I over saturate the connection downloading at the highest speed possible due to bandwidth of my line, no drop outs either.

 

Awesome. What about a netgear modem+router combo?
+rep when I get on a computer!

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I'd say anything other than your ISP router, just use your ISP router as the modem/conneciton to the internet and use a new router, such as the netgear you suggest, just make sure you get a future proof one, so a simulataneous dual band one (2.4 and 5ghz at the same time, under the same network name) will be a decent upgrade. I've only ever really used apple routers, but I don't see netgear being any worse or better.

Also when you look at your new router, aim for something that says N600 (300mbps 2.4ghz + 300mbps 5ghz). Your laptop should be able to switch between the frequencies without your assistance.

Just as long as its another one will be fine I suppose

 

Just a quick question on powerlines, as I'm going to buy a pair on Monday. I'm trying to choose between these 2:

TP-Link TL-PA411 AV500 mini powerline - Simark Supplies Computer Store Malta
TPLINK TL-PA511 500mbps Powerline - Simark Supplies Computer Store Malta

The only difference between them is that the latter has a gigabit port rather than a normal ethernet port. Is that worth the difference in price (almost double)? I will only be using it for my own laptop. For more info, check the table at the bottom of this page:

TP-LINK TL-PA411KIT AV500 Mini Powerline Adapter Starter Kit - Newegg.com

I don't mind spending double the amount if it's worth it but if the difference is minimal, I don't see any point in spending an extra $40 or so

 

Should be ok with just the normal 10/100 ethernet port, the gigabit one will probably be useless, unless your house internet is super fast ie >100mbit !

Make sure you get 2 though, some websites just sell the 1 vs some selling a twin pack.

Saw this one ... Newegg.com - TP-LINK TL-PA4010KIT High-speed AV 500Mbps Nano Powerline Adapter Starter Kit

looks good i think its the newer/smaller model. + $10 cheaper.

 

Hi guys,

I received my new router and since I am using it no drop outs so far. I am downloading files and watching some live streams while my brother is playing GW2 from a desktop computer connected to the router and I have the Killer network manager on with all its feautures on as well. Seems like a new router was all I had to do in order to get the card to work as it should. I am currently connected to the 5 Ghz band and I got a question, should I disable the 2,4 Ghz one and have the rest of the devices running on the ISP router? Would that cause any kind of incompatibility? As far as I understand that shouldn't happen...

Regards.

 

Depending on your router, leave both bands on, if the 2.4ghz band and 5ghz band have the same name (SSID) then your computer will automatically switch to whichever one is more useful. 5ghz is faster but has less range compared to 2.4ghz.

Just leave it on, some devices dont like connecting to 5ghz as well. I would disable the ISP router if you can be bothered, or just leave it on for simplicity sake. Entirely up to you but I'd have just 1 main network running just so there is less intereference.

 

Alright, I had two different SSIDs now I have one and it behaves as you have said. My connection is stable since I'm using my new router, not a single drop out.

Thank you guys for your help.

 

Glad you got it all ironed out.

 

Hey guys, I need some help pretty desperately. I have a Killer 1202 wireless card that'd been working fine all day and then just 2 hours ago I turn on the computer and the wireless showed that it didnt detect anything at all.
I ended up uninstalling the driver since I had upgraded to windows 8 just a day ago to install the w8 x64 drivers for it. After downloading the w8 version for it, i kept getting the 1603 error, which I "fixed" by downloading and using the cleaner. However, now after installing the driver, it doesn't even show up. I goto my devices and it says that Windows couldnt load the drivers for the device!?!?! I've spent the past 2 hours trying to figure this out, even reinstalling the w7 drivers again, ending with the same "Code 31" windows not loading the drivers error.... how do i fix this?!

I've even disabled spybot s&d thinking it was somehow stopping the driver from installing... i haven't installed anything in the past day except ms office 2013 and the drivers. Please help!

 

Hi guys,

I come back with sad news... my connection drops out again. It was stable since friday until today that drop outs are happening. When I am disconnected I try to open google on my browser and get this error message:

Error 105 (net::ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED)



I am sorry it is not in english but I am sure you find that familiar... Any idea of what might be causing this? I have checked my DNS and have tried both my ISP's and Google's so i don't know what else could be wrong.

Thanks.

 

After 10 ways of trying to fix my drop-outs I gave up, I will wait for newer drivers or maybe buy a intel wifi.
Using a cable now, I just hate the fact i added a "better" wifi on my Alienware for drop-outs.......

 

Still not a single issue with my system with the killer control panel disabled. Wonder if it has something to do with the new chipset in the newer systems maybe? just a thought

 

Still no issues at the minute. I did disable 'fast startup' in the power options so the drivers load a clean copy vs 'hibernate' style when I boot up from shut down.

Everything running on the standard beta drivers and default killer settings.

 

I reinstalled windows 8 just top hope my wifi is working, it's the last thing i try.


But really, shouldt a wifi just be working??? This abnormal for a system of more then 2000euro.....
Makes me angry.
People are like, so big bad good laptop but your wifi broken o.0o.0 lol

 

Where can I find those options? Also, any clue of why I get a DNS related error? I am having this error since the beginning though...

Thanks.

 

Are you running windows 8?

Disable fast startup in the power options (in the control panel) menu under 'change what the power buttons do'

You can try setting your own DNS server, I use google DNS 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 they seem pretty fast and stable. The ISP DNS servers are awful I think personally. You can also try OpenDNS as well they are free but I've never used them before.

Best to change your DNS addresses on the router if possible.

 

You've been extremely helpful in this thread +rep
Where did you grab the beta drivers from? Or are they Win 8 only?

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Thanks, there are beta drivers for windows 7 as well if you need them.

Atheros & Zidas drivers I cant link direct to drivers so I have to link to the page, but its near the top. I can't see why you couldn't try the windows 8 beta drivers on windows 7 though.

 

Yes, extremely helpful. I have uninstalled Bigfoot driver and installed Atheros instead along with Google DNS. It's been stable so far but I am sure that won't last long. I may end up calling Dell for a replacement and get the Intel option instead of this Killer card that is making me not enjoy my Alienware at all. The laptop is two weeks old and I can't play online games without thinking of how long will I last online...

100 % dissapointed.

 

Hope you guys fix the issue, I don't know how I fixed mine in the end bar the new router and a clean driver install (beta .547) and disabling fast startup (it hibernates your drivers+services when you shut down, so any glitch in the driver isnt cleaned until you restart). I always use google DNS if possible since the ISP ones can be slower sometimes.

 

I'll try gaming later today and see if all this helps!

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Apparently, it did help me because I have been playing GW2 all day with no drop outs but I can't be confident at all since I thought the router fixed my problems and was working just fine from last friday to yesterday when drop outs came back. So I guess it must be something else messing things up... If I ever have a drop out again, I am going to contact Dell to see what options they give me but I am not goona keep a product that is not working fine. What happens if I want to go to a friend's house and he has a normal ISP router? This card should work just fine everywhere not only along with a good router.4

Thank you so much for your help and I'll keep you updated.