M17X release information wanted

actually im getting a pretty good bag that i think is better than the alienware. my 15x is going in the north face surge ($109 >>) its proabably saying steal me but not as much as an alienware bag since in my bag there might only be books

 

To be honest this will be my first gaming machine ever, i'm planning on buying a neoprone slave for her ams i'll see about a briefcase ata alter date. I'm not likely to take my new baby into the wild much if at all so...

Maybe someone should market brand new aged bags for stealth carrying of valuable notebooks?

OB

 

I asked someone from Alienware by email if they were waiting for the new 2.5" WD HDD's and all I got was a

My guess is that the m17x will be released soon!

http://www.westerndigital.com/en/company/releases/PressRelease.asp?release={5ABC5B81-92EE-470F-8FAE-A2191EB887F4}

 

i doubt they would throw something that puts out that much heat into the m17x. as stated in the release, the 2.5" drive will be in a 3.5" enclosure dubbed the "IcePack Mounting Frame". i'm hoping something gets announced on April 29th through the AlienNetwork broadcast

 

I was kinda hoping they'd release it before the 29th and then use the program to showcase it, though the odd's of that happening...

The m17x is kinda going to be my first gaming laptop, (I've had lappies before - but nothing on a comparable level as the m15/17x, I usually play about with modded desktops)
So does anyone (used to buying laptops) know, is this commonplace with fancy notebooks - like the 6/7/8..... month wait after initial announcement or are Alienware unique in this regard?

I know they're a relatively smallish manufacturer (well assembler really)
but there seems to be lots of other companys on the internet scrambling over each other to get your business. - Like I contacted killer notebooks about modding one of theirs - personal reply next morning (emailed them round 2 in the morning) telling me everthing they could do for me - couldn't be more helpful.

I havn't bought from alienware before but their specs and name seems to carry a lot of weight. The reviews and so on are kinda worrying me though, like I just don't wan't to spend 5/6000 euro - $8/9000 on a system then find out I'm screwed and people going to me "Told ya so"

 

It will be my first true gaming machine. My Dell played some games but wasn't bought for that, just bacause i wanted a laptop, i haven't the space for a desktop what with the wires etc.

I have been reading about them for years and it seems they have a good rep, apart from the odd problem, which seems to be sorted out fairly quickly. I'm going to biew the M17X with an open mind, it has been tested much more than the M17X (from what Frank said) and because of the problems with M15X, they have checked for them i guess.

It makes sense that they would not want to risk releasing there new beast and have it panned as it goes wrong lol...

OB

 

they probably delayed m17x because of the huge issue with the m15x. if the m15x did not perform as promised how could people think the m17x will. release information should come out next week when AW airs their first Alienware Network Video.

 

Talked with the sales support just a minute ago and got this:

Kristian V.: Hi, my name is Kristian V.. How may I help you?
Max Zetterberg: I would like to know if the m17x is planned to be released anytime soon?
Kristian V.: It is expected very soon, please check the site daily.
Max Zetterberg: Ok, thank you!

Very soon!

 

1month it's very soon lol

 

i don't think those sales support agents have any idea really...

i remember asking if they were planning on releasing the wuxga screen in glossy...and the rep said it already comes in glossy...

 

If you google M17X you get directd to the main page which only shows the M15X. I'm presuming that they will eventually add the M17X to the main page?

I agree, it's been soon for ages so very soon could meen two months away lol

OB

 

Yeah "very soon" has been spouted since last November.
Though there is a good side - they'l have to relase it with montevina.
There's no way they'd release their newest, top of the line, riduclously expensive laptop with a last generation chipset this close to Montevina's release date.

I'm not saying Montevina is friggin amazing and that its the be all and end all, but if your going to pay a 'lot' of money for such a system, you kind of want the newest and best. Like you could build a pretty damm fast desktop that would slap the m15x/m17x silly for a good bit less.

Granted upgradability is kinda the selling point. ('hear say' power usage reduction is negligible if you consider the juice the 8800's use at full throtle)
Not really important for me cause I don't see laptop processors making gigantic improvements in the next twelve months (I'll be buying again in bout a year - tax thing) though I would like the 1066mhz ddr3 compatibility.

 

it'll probably be a while.

 

Hi Roor, so is that a slight clue or do you know something we don't lol

OB

 

There isn't that much DDR3 desktop RAM around yet, so montevina will probably get DDR2 800 - not that big of a difference from the current DDR2 667

Other than that, maybe quad cores? To me, I have yet to even use the second core of my original Core Duo. They need to start making more multi-threaded apps before I buy into the multi-core crap intel has been spewing....

SLi 8800's is the only reason to get a m17x

 

I thought the higher fsb was kinda the selling point?

 

we're gettin closer

 

The processors are already using the 800MHz FSB. Unless they come out with 1066MHz mobile chips, then I'm not sure what the point of waiting for montevina is. There is no way RAM for that platform is going to jump from 667-1066.....

 

I thought that Montevins had a 1066 FSB and could use 1066 RAM, which are available now, just not cheap...

It can also use quad core mobile processors, the new Penryn chips which are faster, smaller and more efficient...

Just my 2p

OB

 

I will be very surprised if the M17X is released with montevina. Since the launch is set for june it will be a least a couple of months after that for wide spread release. Maybe they are waiting for the new WD velaciraptors they are due to get in the next week or so or perhaps they are waiting on 9800GTX mobil parts. Or perhaps they are just trying to get rid of their remaining stock of M9750's. Its all a guessing game at this point. Lets hope the info they release the 29th will shed some light.

 

I don't think WD will make the velociraptor work in notebooks. there's a reason for that monster heatsink. 9800m-gtx in the m17x? nooo... not for a long time. remember how long it took to get from the Go 7950gtx to the 8800m-gtx? that's how long it takes nvidia to compress the current top of the line model to fit in notebooks, and not fry in the process. go figure that it's gonna take around the same time to get the 9800m-gtx to life.

 

Montevina Quad 3.0, 9800MGTX SLI, Velociraptor RAID that is what i want LOL

 

there are no delays in the m17x production. they are ready to be dispatched. Alienware is not the only place to get alienware laptops new from manufacturer.

 

These new AWs aren't your standard Clevos you can find through 10 separate guys... who else is selling these new Quanta-made laptops?

 

well technically they dont sell it. they just order them in, "lose them" and then sell it through a private ebay auction

 

i already got a quote to buy it, but i dont want a 10lbs monster so im just going to stick with my almost 8lbs 15inc m15x

 

huh? who's "they"?

 

i cant say exactly who they are for bvious reasons, but ill give you a clue. all it takes is a bit of expert googling.

1: their shop site is not the same name as the actual vendor and its not a high street brand.
2: They used to be based as one large single shop in america and would host big LAN matches.

If i told you exactly, then too many people would catch on and they would have to no longer offer it.

if it helps, they also offered me an asus C90 and the acer gemstone blues (i think those ones are out already though)

 

You got a quote to buy an AW barebone from Quanta?? I highly doubt that. And how do you know they are ready to be "dispatched".

 

Alienware, now a part of Dell, would have this small shop in LOADS of $hit if they find out someone is breaking an NDA and exclusivity agreement with them. You, sir, are full of you know what!

 

well i pretty much told him the type of laptop that i wanted to get, then he sent me an email with a few prices on parts. I then said "that system sounds alot like the m17x" and he said "well its the same chasis anyways" For some reason though he could not get it as a barebone, but as a preconfigured piece. He is triing to sell me that new sager one, but the review here says its one of the loudest laptops in terms of fans so i dont want to get.

 

im having a conversation with him now, ill post the thread in a sec

 

FYI im the Aaron and the other guy i blobked out as ****

Please wait. A representative will be with you shortly.
One moment please...
*** says:
Hello you. My name is *** how can I help you?
Aaron says:
ah my favorite person
**** says:
Hey Aaron
*** says:
Didnt forget about the 15"
*** says:
You are my center post-it lol
Aaron says:
hey about that sager, did you not once say that you do something different with the cooling?
*** says:
We can
Aaron says:
center post it?
***says:
post its - The little sticky paper
***says:
Yes all this technology and we still use post its
Aaron says:
because that was my main concern,m the fan noise
*** says:
Well the thing is the Sager is the North AMerican distributor for Clevo. So if anyone else can lower the noise, so can we.
**** says:
We assume it would just be a script to lower fan RPMs, but have received no response yet from them
Aaron says:
would that not adversely effect the heat?
**** says:
Well we would have to lower the system power also. Similar to some companies that offer, power/silent/home etc modes.
**** says:
All they do is make a script to lower certain settings
**** says:
fans would be included in that
Aaron says:
i think it a little bit of bad craftsmanship on their part. they have a 17 inch with only one GPU, yet it has fan issues. Could they not have put in a big heat sink or something in the extra space to compensate?
**** says:
I don't know. I wish I had more experience with them.
****says:
But they do run pretty cool for everything that is in them
**** says:
They run cooler then the Asus
Aaron says:
and remember the m15x and m17x that you were able to get in. do you know why they would only sell you premade ones?
Aaron says:
thats cool
**** says:
Well we get the base model, not the changes Alienware makes to them
Aaron says:
you mean barebone?
**** says:
I mean the Clevo barebones
**** says:
yes
**** says:
Alienware manufactures the decorative cover and scripts
Aaron says:
is it not made by quanta though?
**** says:
Not from what I was told. I have actually never heard of them
Aaron says:
your more of a desktop expert so thats ok
**** says:

**** says:
Laptops = proprietary. I wish there was more competition in the industry.
**** says:
Be some very nice laptops
Aaron says:
so when you mean alienware decorate it. does that mean the one you would get would not have the illuminated keyboard? if not then i might aswell stick with the sagers
**** says:
So far though the Sagers and the Asus allow for a nice selection. We had a meeting about making a new laptop section. We are still undecided.
**** says:
I cannot find the illuminated keyboard anywhere
**** says:
Actually driving me nuts because I would like one for my laptop
Aaron says:
yeah, ive seen that it is pretty easy to remove and plug in. it think you may ned an extra cable though for the fx module
Aaron says:
http://4help.alienware.com/cgi-bin/...TEmcF9zZWFyY2hfdGV4dD1tMTV4&p_li=&p_topview=1
Aaron says:
look at connector pic
**** says:
I see it

ok, so i was half wrong. I can get the functionality of the alienwares, but not the looks......ah well.

 

Ok, this makes more sense -- this guy is a Clevo reseller, and he thinks that the m15x/m17x are still based on Clevo models

 

I'm sure i have read somewhere that Alienware no longer buy Clevo machines, so i'm guessing they either have made there own or get them from another source.

Nice try though "Heli"...lol

OB

 

Well I remember reading somewhere on these forums or somewhere else..
Bout Alienware and others not being able to keep up with other sellers selling same lappies cheaper. So they started ordering (made for them only) systems from quanta, hence retaining their 'exclusive' name.
To be honest I don't know if I'd wan't a barebones Alienware without any of the bells and whistles - to an extent that is what people buy Alienware for.

 

I just looked on the Quanta Computers website and they only produce notebooks up to 15.4"... So what or who's making the M17X?

OB

 

clevo make the bare piece. quanta make it an alienware.

 

I thought it was an Arima

 

They made the chassis for the M9750 but not for the 17" monster that's going to be the M17"

OB

 

The m15x? Nah, doesn't look like it -- both system BIOS and 8800M GTX BIOS list Quanta as the vendor. OB, where are you seeing this that they don't make >15.4" laptops (it's not like I don't believe you, I'm just wondering where you read this)?

Also, Helio, I still don't believe that this laptop is in any way Clevo-based (beyond the Quanta references). Their 15.4" gaming laptop still hasn't even come out yet -- so how could AW have one?

 

http://www.scan.co.uk/anaconda/ that look familiar???

 

yeah, to the m9750... not m15x (well, if that was your point)

 

Lol I said they only make Notebooks up to 15.4", meaning they don't seem to do a 17" aka M17X

OB

 

It looks similar to the M17X but, it's nowhere near. For a start it's too curvey along the back edge and supports AMD and 5400rpm HDD's.

It's a good try though lol

OB

 

Looks like the AW aurora m9700 notebook...

 

I'd imagine that Alienware would try and get there supplier (if it was not in house building) to withold any reference to the M17X or it's chassis design etc.

OB

 

I doubt they could support building all those systems from scratch, everything is made in China right

But I completely agree with them holding the reference from anyone, i'm sure it's costing them enough to build a system that no one else is going to have.

 

Alienware don't manufacture their laptops, as in having a large factory with moulds and molten steel or plastic or whatever,

Quanta (made in Taiwan) manufacture them for Alienware. Then Alienware assemble whatever bits and pieces you want in them.

I assume however that Alienware are involved in the design process - Specifying dimensions and so on. I think quanta makes these models
(m15x/17x) solely for Alienware, as in they wouldn't sell these models to anybody else.

That's as far as I know, though I'm open to correction.

 

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