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    M17x Benchmarks thread !!!

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by The_Moo?, Jun 22, 2009.

  1. Joebarchuck

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    2006 and Vantage
     
  2. Mandrake

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    Have you posted your scores yet?
     
  3. Joebarchuck

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    Yep but the only thing I am able to OC is the CPU stable at 2.93ghz anything above is not stable.

    I get around 15400 in 3dmark 2006
     
  4. Mandrake

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    Single card scored just over 5K.
     
  5. ichime

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    Stock or overclocked? Try overclocked with the same numbers as you did for the SLi runs when you get the chance.
     
  6. Mandrake

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    I did, that was overclocked. BTW, what resolution does Vantage use?

    Nevermind I see it.
     
  7. ichime

    ichime Notebook Elder

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    really? It should be much higher than over 5k, should be over 6k...

    Anyways, Vantage uses three sets: P = 1280x1024, H = 1680x1050 X = 1920x1200
     
  8. dondadah88

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    another geeks was 61??. (280m)
    johnksss was 58?? (9800m gtx)
    me 55?? (9800m gtx)
     
  9. Joebarchuck

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    Not sure what you are referring to here
     
  10. dondadah88

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    vantage gpu score
     
  11. Joebarchuck

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    ok, sounds good.
     
  12. Mandrake

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    Better?

    [​IMG]
     
  13. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    alot better but what's your clocks. you just beat the 3870 crossfired stocked. as for overclocked i got 66??
     
  14. Mandrake

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    700|1100|1670
     
  15. dondadah88

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    Yeah but still in pursuit of 12K. I assuming people are blowing by these single 280M gpu marks with custom firmware for the cards.
     
  17. dondadah88

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    so you couldn't sli it????
     
  18. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    You mean SLI it at those clocks and run the tests without crashing? Not in the past. I'm trying right now.

    Edit: Test was successful but score was only 10.4K. Odd.
    Edit 2: Lowering the mem and shader freq crashed the drivers....really odd.
     
  19. dondadah88

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    yeah i'm surprised also. how is your temps run hwmoniter in the back. it is probably downclocking?
     
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    Same as they always been cpu max is 69 gpu max is 74. I ran 3dMark06 to see if it's a lower score without changing the clocks and it was. I have to think it may have down-clocked itself. Going to reboot and try again.

    Edit: I probably should have checked current CPU freq before rebooting, oh well.
     
  21. dondadah88

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    there's a way to see your clocks in game by using rivatuner but i haven't gotten it to work.

    i can't find the thread that' it's on. i think rambo29 started it or ArmageddonAsh
     
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    I rebooted, reran Vantage and score 10.4K again. I changed my core freq from 700 to 690 and my score was 11.8K. Conclusion, if the core freq too high it will down-clock. Any other systems with the 280M seeing this?
     
  23. dondadah88

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    i don't have sli to test this. and i never thought about it with my 3870 crossfire so i can't help you unless you can wait a month. Lol.
     
  24. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Thats actually normal TBH , once you get past a certain points in the clocks they start working against you basically and scores start to get worse even though the clocks are sticking IE working .
     
  25. ViciousXUSMC

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    Has anybody done the 15 minute OCCT cpu test yet to see the temps of the cpu under load? Questions of this units cooling are about and I dont know the answer till I see results.

    Also a OCCT for the video cards would be nice as well. Im going to go do that for the W90 now.
     
  26. dondadah88

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    so he should stay with those clocks and just work on optimizing and driver tweaking??
     
  27. anothergeek

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    at 1100 on the memory for an extended period, it's as good as fried. That's the maximum rated speed.
     
  28. Quadzilla

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    Yes and No , drivers play a huge roll in all of it as well , so if he is seeing higher numbers at 690 vs 700 with driver A maybe driver B will let him go to 700 or higher and give him even better scores . Its all so bloody time consuming and thats where most people just run out of steam and say to heck with it lol its not worth all the trouble . I know mandrake though is willing to put in the time so im sure its just a matter of time before he finds a magical driver that will let him OC Super high and have numbers that are only getting better vs worse.
     
  29. dondadah88

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    Oh ok i see.
     
  30. bifnewman

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    keep it up... you guys are doing really great... i wish i could help but i dont have an m17x yet...
     
  31. ViciousXUSMC

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    reporting back with my OCCT temps for the W90 gpu's for comparison.

    I ran the OCCT test, Full Screen (important), 15 minute duration, I used HWmonitor to monitor temps.

    After the test finished it said my max temp was 111c for Card1 and 112c for Card2 !!

    Thats hot.

    3dmark06 can barely get it to 70c.

    So now I ask please somebody with a M17X SLI 280 do the OCCT gpu test like I did and post your results to compare unit cooling, and any M17X owner do the OCCT cpu test as I did and post back your temps.
     
  32. Quadzilla

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    Holy Smokes man that is WAAY to hot .
     
  33. ViciousXUSMC

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    Well I can only see min/max temps with HWmonitor after the test ran, for all I know it was a .1 second spike in temps.

    Like I said in real world tests it is not even close to that, this is a maxed out OCCT run.

    Atleast I am being honest :p also got my laptop about 5" from a wall where the hot air goes out, maybe it needs more space.
     
  34. dondadah88

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    occt is a real warmer. i have seen the w90 and i see lots of way you can inprove cooling if you are interested. (i just need a pic to edit it.)

    i hit 90c on my gpu but that was stocked. (500/1250/800). i'll put it up to 640/1600/920 and run it for 15mins as well. and report my finding. since the sager np9850 uses the same cooling for the gpu's as mins. and add 3c for the extra 12 SP's
     
  35. Kevin

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    Has anyone even opened the vbios in Nibitor, to see what your max voltage is?
     
  36. ViciousXUSMC

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    Yeah just make sure you up the resolution and use full screen the default was like 1200x700ish I upped it to 1920x1080 and used full screen. Im running a stock test now and it seems to be much easier on the cards :p not even 90c yet over 5 min into it.

    Ok @ 6 min it spiked up to 100c and I turned it off lol.

    So looks like these cards hate OCCT. There is a ton of warm air moving out the back. Wonder where the problem is.
     
  37. dondadah88

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    can you provide pictures of your system underneath(maybe in the w90 owner's lounge since this is benchmarking the m17x Lol or you can start a new thread) and we can go from there.




    for me my temps are iffy. i don't like it. i'll post my results. it hit 90 and then it sunk. i don't know if it downclocked or that's it. matter fact i think it did. i remember when i was in the bios, it said about the max heat for the cards and the downclocking speed.
    clocks 640/1620/920
    [​IMG]

    now we need the m17x
     
  38. catacylsm

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    Flippin heck visc, OCCT did claim it identified power distrobution problems with desktop 4870', but my single 4850 only hits 90 or so :S and thats after 30 mins, on a single heat pipe with the fan about 15cm away from it :S

    Of course OCCT just warms stuff up, real world performance doesnt even think of getting that hot.

    But 100+ :S thats dreadfull lol, is this with the OC clocks or stock? Prehaps a flash undervolt?
     
  39. ViciousXUSMC

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    Nice, if you dont mind turning off error check :D says it places a higher load.
     
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    You mention pipes, thats something I should check, I remember the G1S had an issue when tilted it didnt cool right, I have the back side of my w90 lifted considerably if I put it level maybe it will be cooler?

    Its worth checking.
     
  41. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    the 9800m gtx has a lower downclocking temp
     
  42. catacylsm

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    I think this too, instead of only raising the place where the intakes are, have it hover rather then tilt, i would be totally i dont know, if this were the case.
     
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    Meh no go, I still hit 100c.

    I'll hop over to the W90 owners thread and ask somebody else to test, see if its just my unit.

    I did replace all the thermal pads and stuff with ICD on my cards, maybe I didnt use enough to bridge the connection.
     
  44. MrButterBiscuits

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    Doubtful... I think OCCT is just so powerful it can easily destroy your hardware... there is no limiting factors to keep it from doing so!!!
     
  45. catacylsm

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    Nevaaaa!
    Our machines shall never die :p
    Has anyone ran this on the M17X Yet?
     
  46. MrButterBiscuits

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    If you left it unmonitored it would likely either crash your system... or crack your Hardware!!!! aHHHHH
     
  47. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    not if it was a good cooling system ;)

    which is what it is supposed to test
     
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    I'd rate my cooling great concidering its a single fan, problem is the ATI 4850 is getting very hot 90C (i hate that temp btw even if it gives some leeway)

    Im using stock cooling, undervolting CPU allows cooler temps to bleed onto the northbridge so i loose about 10-20C on both NB and CPU but problem is, although GPU is on the same heat pipe, it still gets excessively hot! I may mod in a fan.

    Sorry for going quite off topic here, i will straighten up if you guys want, and talk more about the battle ship at hand, the m17x. :D
     
  49. MrButterBiscuits

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    Lol OCCT is supposed to test quite a few things... but yes you are correct... jesus I love it is the only thing that can bring any system universally to it's Knees

    Anyway agreed we need to get a M17x owner in here
     
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    Yeah, i think my 5 year old sony vaio could survive this test :p But im not sure, ill have to run it when i get home.

    I bet a 4860 would fare well in this test, smaller die and memory bus should be quite good. Altho gddr5 mem.

    Moo, or butter, do you have your m17x' yet? I heard the initial fan on startup of the machine and it sounded really powerful, i really just want someone to run occt on this machine, its actually sounding like all machines are being pushed to there limits with OCCT, i havent seen any machine thats truly been able to survive it.
     
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