M17x Benchmarks thread !!!

Yeah my W90 was hitting 29 fps@very high @1920x1080 so i know for sure you guys can do better then that , Crysis is not an ATI game. John i think got 33 or 34 FPS under the same settings on his rig.

 

your using a bad driver for crysis. when I gt to my computer I will tell you the driver I a using.

try 185.20

 

well guys...the best your gonna see is about 30 to 34 fps in crysis very high. and you will need to be over clocked for that.

 

Quad was your gpu overclocked?

 

I'm trying the drivers that come with the system right now. I can try the 185.20 drivers but won't get a chance tonight. I can try again tomorrow.

 

Nope because back then the W90s were not overclocking the GPUs or atleast when tried there was little to no effect.So ill say no.

 

well donlt reinstall your driver now. vandit had a hard time trying to get it to work.

 

Get what to work? The original driver?

 

The original drivers gave worse numbers 13,19,29 @ 1920x1200. I will try don suggested drivers tomorrow. Always a possibility these bench mark tests are not update to handle the 280M GTX in SLI....who knows.

 

so what is really going on over here?
how are we looking on gaming benchmarks? i really don't see any yet and there are a ton of free demos with benchmarking tools with them. also fraps works well to gage fps while playing a game. has anyone over clocked the gpu with the cpu?did any bios flashing for voltage upgrades....kind of clue me in..im not about the go through the other thread and weed through it...

you also need to bench in 1920x1080 to compete against the w90

 

benchs are a page back

we have no one that will flash the vbios not that i know of

 

what exactly would you like it flashed for? oc??

 

of course to push clocks threw the roof.

but someone please run dmc4. I want to see the extra 165fps can do.

 

MORE voltage higher overclocks

 

Alright DMC4 benchies. QX9300 at 2.93GHZ, no GPU overclock. Check out file names for settings.

 

i see you ran dx9. can you do dx10. but thanks alot i know it's a long benchmark to do.

 

dx10 was what i was looking for as well.

 

i wannt to know how much fps in crysis with 1920x1200 and high/very high are possible with sli 260/sli 280. could someone make a run with my fav settings plz.

 

Here is the W90's DMC4 bench

Maxed out settings in the game except for the AA and the AA is noted on the graph.

From W90 Benchmarks

 

ok...i am lost...why does the shot show 2.53 and not the 2.93?
is it not able to show the OC?

 

Do a DX10 1920x1080 2.53ghz all maxed out run and I can do the exact same run.

 

C'moon people 12 pages and still a bit abstract thread (in therms os 280m sli)... Please some one with a qx9300 and 280m sli Benchmark Far cry 2 @ maximum settings, vantage P, and DMC4 (dmc4 wold be nice to see with the m17x qx9300 overcloked to 2.9 to more equal to benchmark's that Vicious presented...)

 

Ok I tested with DX9 for a direct comparison while we wait.

DMC 4 All Max 8x AA

M17X 2.93ghz

From Misc

W90 2.7ghz

From Misc

So far vantage and DMC4 are saying the 4870's are a bit stronger than the GTX280's

I will direct compare any game I have, just let me know.

 

The "allpowerful" is not justifying its name based on the gaming benches so far.. i think my old crossfire 3870s in m17 could compare to it (if i remember correctly dondadah got just almost the same numbers in that test). The w90 is actually beating it significantly.

 

wow...this is not to the good for the 280m gtx....

i see it aint beating the 9800m gtx though.

 

I'll let one secret out of the bag

DMC4 is one of those games that performs better on ATI than it does Nvidia if I recall correctly. Similar to how crysis has always run better on Nvidia than ATI.

So I make sure I mention that when people bench Crysis so I'll mention it now with DMC4, though finally the newest 9.6 drivers boost Crysis by like 12% on ATI crossfire so it may be equal now for both brands. Shame I cant get the 9.6's working on the W90.

You guys just need to overclock your cards, see if that helps a lot. If your GTX280's gain more from overclocking then it can still catch up to and beat the 4870.

Its been said before but as far as I know the GTX280 is just a die shrunk and overclocked 9800M GTX its not based on the desktop GTX280 at all. While the 4870M is based on its desktop counterpart.

 

Seams a crossfire 4850s/4870s solution would have been better in the new m17x
Nvidia should really wake up and stop making slightly higher clocked old models and actually release something new for the mobile market (like a real gtx2x0 based mobile card or a gx2 one - cheering for the latter obviously)
The gtx should have beaten the atis in crysis at least but id didnt do that either.. its really dissapointing..
nvidia make something new so i can get my hands on it !
And Vicious you should also make a note that you have 4850s not 4870s - they named them inapropriately..

 

?? the W90 has a 4870X2 which is two 4870M's in crossfire, unless you know something I dont.

 

Vic finaly some one with iniciative... is post's like you comparison that we need... Camos people Vic is able to help us... Sow some one with one m17x with 280m sli and a qx9300 please poste here Vantage p , farcry 2 maxed out, GTA 4 , and crysis warhead (crasys 2 isent so Nvidia frendly like the fierst one)... Please remember to run it as 1920x1080....

 

[uote=ViciousXUSMC;4993986]I'll let one secret out of the bag

DMC4 is one of those games that performs better on ATI than it does Nvidia if I recall correctly. Similar to how crysis has always run better on Nvidia than ATI.

So I make sure I mention that when people bench Crysis so I'll mention it now with DMC4, though finally the newest 9.6 drivers boost Crysis by like 12% on ATI crossfire so it may be equal now for both brands. Shame I cant get the 9.6's working on the W90.

You guys just need to overclock your cards, see if that helps a lot. If your GTX280's gain more from overclocking then it can still catch up to and beat the 4870.


Its been said before but as far as I know the GTX280 is just a die shrunk and overclocked 9800M GTX its not based on the desktop GTX280 at all. While the 4870M is based on its desktop counterpart. <--yeah..not sure what this has to do with anything. it's pretty much based on the user at this point.

not entirely true.
when ran normally without AA, the gtx smoke the ati cards at dmc4..it's only when you add MSAA that ati pulls away...

lets not forget these types of run's as well...
high


extreme

 

The thing is, people prefer smooth edges with aa, thats why ATI is such a good card, it apserlutely eats nvidia AA for breakfast and sticks with a nice frame rate.

Does that mean the mobile gtx280m supports cuda? 9800M GTX has been out for a while hasnt it?

And yeah, alot of the ATI cards are based from desktop cards, not remade, they just have lower clocks to compensate for power and a few other things.

 

that's with msaa...there are like 4 versions of aa now and thats also with certain games, not all of them..cod4 or 5 aa/af max..gtx wins.

 

From what i understand there, anything inside the MSAA Polygon still has small distortion? We need something that isn't biased.

From what i hear, X3-TC (When i participated in a benchmark thread) seemed the most unbiased demo for benchmarking there, and i believe this to be accurate.

I think m17x, your sager john and viscs w90 should aquire that game. (Its good that you have the 9800m gtx sli john its good to see how well they both compare, regardless of people stating theres just a 10% difference hehe)

 

The cards in the w90 are marketed as 4870 x2, before the w90 came out it was said theyd be 1gb ddr5 4870s, but infact they are 1gb ddr3 4850s but most people are oblivious to that fact.. still theyre mighty powerful, no objection there..

and johnkss.. what it means that the atis 4870s (4850s) are based from their desktop counterparts is they use a newer, better design as the "fake" gtx 280m, which is actualy made like the old 8800/9800 gt series desktop ones.
That is why the mobile 4870s are noticably better than the mobile 3870s, and the gtx 280ms are not noticably better from the 9800m gtxs.

 

yes, x3-tc is a good one ...

The cards in the w90 are marketed as 4870 x2, before the w90 came out it was said theyd be 1gb ddr5 4870s, but infact they are 1gb ddr3 4850s but most people are oblivious to that fact.. still theyre mighty powerful, no objection there.. <----- on no they aren't. it was like 500 people complaining about that when they thought the cards didn't perform well...now that they do..it's like 499 people complainging...lol

 

Haha, it is a shame though, GDDR5 would have been nice, but meh what can ya do.

It fits into this generation of cards either way

 

I never said they were poor performers.. i never owned one of these so im not sure but i saw a screenie of the card id which suggested ddr3.. but dont hold me to it than if you say so.

 

oh no...not saying it like that...if i had 4870s and was expecting gddr5 i would be seriously complaining myself..lol

 

Well im quite happy with the ATI 4850 theres my daily source of gddr3 hehe.

Does gddr5 really benefit that much though?

 

Thanks for all the good info here Moo. I'll rep ya for it when the system let's me.

 

If they run it at high speeds and dont cut down the core to compensate for the added heat and also have a full speed memory buss, yeah there would be a very noticeable difference with GDDR5, the memory speed in gpu's seems to always have a larger impact than core speed.

Thats the flip side of the coin though, its very possible for somebody to cough up a GDDR5 unit and tune it down to handle the heat and it really wont perform like it should.

 

What system are those Vantage scores from?

I can do a high run later but have no monitor with the res needed for extreme.

 

Ahh, i see, well i can definately say the mix of performance and heat with gddr5 must be hard, sometimes gddr3 itself gets farely hot, but if the memory really helps the card so much, then dam that would be fast.

Has anyone tried really stressing there m17x with the occt tool yet? (i know i keep saying this but its dead godly to a system and it warms them up like never before-by the way this doesnt mean your system will overheat or malfunction, nothing uses hardware like this test.)

 

all good vic...this was from our runs that day, way back when. when you and i ran the high/extreme 8x AA

 

Thats what I thought, but you dont have SLI GTX280's

 

nah...hopefully it's incentive for them to want to perform better....lol

 

I thought this was a M17x benchmarking thread.

 

and you will continue to be confused thinking like that..

 

Heh. This is why you can't go to a manufacturer forum and find benchmarks for a specific laptop without wading through a 600 page thread.

 

Thread needs a new name then.