M17x Benchmarks thread !!!

Yeah right now im running this CPU at 1333FSB and 1333 Ram . Problem is it brings Cas latency all the way up to 11 vs 7 stock . I have more testing to do though to see what kind of differences if any it has on my performance.

I might snag some 1333 ram to see if there is a difference but i really need some solid numbers from someone with the same setup to know if my money is being spent wisely or not.

Oh btw nice scores there .

 

thanks!

yes, it makes a difference... to run the lower latency you need more voltage to the ram...if the system allocates it, then your all to the good. the main problem is keeping the timings low to a degree. when you get around to running them let me know what bsod codes you get. then i can better tell you what is causing the problem. as many bsod's i have had in my quest for testing and understanding...lol...i should be a master...hahahaha, but im not.

 

I have tried a few times to run vantage and I get the error in pic below. Anyone had the same? I've never had errors with vantage before, like with Clevo's and such.

 

what is your cpu/gpu over clock set at?
and check to see if that is when prefect is kicking in.... anything going on in the back ground(meaning something starting) will knock vantage off track.

 

11x in bios for cpu 2.93 and gpu tried 650, 1050, 1600 and tried a couple of others in simular range.

 

Has McAfee been a problem?

 

i just got that exact same dammn error right now as we spoke...lol

and im messing with the cpu stuff right now and not the vga card stuff..so that may help

if mcafee is trying to do a scan or update...then yes, it would. although i ran a test while avg was active, but my scores we're still faily good.

 

Yeah I going to try stock GPU setting and see what happens.

 

it usually clears up after a reboot though...most of the time.

 

What about this error, anyone? This at stock GPU settings.

 

stupid questions but....Are you trying to minimize it? Also I have been having the same problems again... I switched over to system tools 6.05 and 190.38 drivers, disabled psyX and for a while I was able to OC splendidly but now it is unstable again

 

Babyhemi do you have Fraps running in the background ?.

 

where did you get that avatar at mrbutterbiscuits..

 

Mangatar google is your friend ... anyway John becuase you are the OC master... I realized I am beggining to bottleneck becuase I haven't OC my CPU yet... how should I go about getting my CPU to 2.93 with just a simple x11 multiplier or should I do a mix of FSB as well?

I also want to make sure my CPU doesn't get too hot... I know the "safe" operating temps are 0-100... however lower is better lol... here is a pic of my normal use temps (surfing, video, etc.)

 

1: 85 and up are really...not safe!
2: try multiplier first and see what happens

 

Ok guys... I have been able to OC using FSB through nvidias control panel... but whenever I touch the multiplier in the BIOS my computer locks up upon start up.. not BOD just freezes

 

set your settings to stock in NST. you touch hardware before software.

 

Ok lol no jokes... I'll be back in a minute hope I didn't get a dud proc

 

Ok so far so good... slightly warmer than usual obviously idling around 50c... X10.5 @2.8 I'm going to run the vantage CPU test to give it some stress.. if that works I'll pump the FSB a bit... btw should I ever save an FSB pump to startup along with my system?

 

that is actually a very good test to run. it will let you know if your system will fail. it test the limits of the voltage supplied to the cpu...if you don't have enough, you'll get something like bsod 101 or 124 or 7e. all meaning you need some form of more voltage.

 

Well I really don't wan't to up any voltages that is a little out of my ability range... but I should be able to get to 2.93 or 3.06 without upping voltages right? right now I'm stable at 2.8... but when I tried to use the 11x multiplier I got a BSOD... do you think I should try pumping now?

 

i said...some form of voltage...never said you had to increase it...

and that depends on the first set of numbers in the bsod

 

Ok we'll here I'll go and do the 11X and write down the BSOD, then you can take a look... you know alot more than me lol... Thanks again

 

Ok John I didn't really know where to look... It said something along the line of 0X0000007E.... FFFFFFFFFF etc.

So it was 7E... what does that mean though? Something about voltages that I now know

 

What are you saying... Im a novice?
Like I always said... Im not really a fan of benching... Im into gaming, and the W90 never failed me there... I only ran benches for comparison to help others.

 

we 7E is 126 in decimal, so maybe 1.26 volts?

 

It isn't a matter of being in the right user's hand or anything; not everyone who buys a W90 or any notebook in the same class is hardcore about overclocking and benchmarking.

 

vcore or vtt voltage

nah, never that...lol..it was suppose to be from a more technical point of view...

umm, yes it is. and every last person spending 2k and up is concerned about some form of benchmarking..whether it be gaming or synthetic. i have yet to see one person NOT ask about benchmarking and that weighed on their choice to buy that particular brand. yet again you missed the point of it...it was a light jest at your skill level and you took it to some off the wall stuff yet again.

 

Lol it's true and sad since synthetic benchmarks are cool but not in the slightest the end all be all... Anyway I managed to get my CPU to 2.8 stable so far hottest being high 60's tops at 70... and my GPU clocks are 650/1050/1600 which is working well... but why can't I reach 2.93!!! Grrrrr

 

What config r u trying?

 

Explain in more detail .... if you mean my CPU the X11 multiplier would cause a BSOD or Freeze... so I did 10.5 which is stable... then tried to pump FSB which would be iffy and cause BSOD's often

 

i never lied to myself..i said i was an over clocker since day one and i played games. i loved my lappy, but it would not play crysis maxed out (very high) at no 70+ fps@1920x1200. i got to really enjoy all those games recently and it feels good to say you concured a game. im just about caught up.. have l4d and protype left to play on my list of games.

are you the only one not able to reach 2.93 or do others have the same problems?

leave the multiplier alone and only use the fsb. see what you can get to using it. see what bsod you get. it already seems that the bios is not fully coded for over clocking. which in reality is a give or take sort of thing. they want to give some over clocking, but not enough for you to hang your self and hold them resposible..(speculation)

also, what is your voltage?

 

I don't really know anyone else who has the Qx9300 ES in their M17x.... and I don't know anyone else with as little experience as me lol

It's just possible I got a not so great QX9300

 

well my young friend...your just going to have to find one of those people... check peoples sigs and do a search in the forums...you will find them, they are here.

so, you qx9300 is an es?

 

Yes it is a Qx9300 ES with QNGN stepping so it is pretty much as close as you can get to the OEM version... and about 600 dollars cheaper in my case lol

 

I would just try 1333 @ 9x

 

1333 in the FSB... is that accessible from NST?

 

9x meaning multiplier and 1333 being the memory...... how would you set the ram to 9x?

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almost given up.... also what wouldn't be accesable?

 

Exactly I didn't know what he was talking about... lol 9.5 is the base multiplier on the Qx9300 and my ram is already 1333... I'm just trying to come up with other ideas on how to reach higher clock speeds than the 2.8 I'm at right now...

And yes Moo I am at 10.5 but I can't get to 11... and Pumping the FSB is iffy as it does cause BSOD (been on and off)
The truth is I probably just recieved a processor that can't do it... the little CPU who couldn't

 

1333MHZ Ram in Alienware M17X is pointless<--- why is it pointless?

butter: drop your ram down to 1066 and then start using front side bus.try to over clock back up to 1333...this should keep you stable if the voltage & wattage is there.

 

because my 1066 ram is running @ 1333 erfectly stable

 

Wait so technically me buying the 1333mhz ram (yes I know stupid) was a bad thing becuase I need to downclock the actual ram itself? grrrr
Then I can pump it and the CPU back up with FSB settings?

 

Umm the ram down clocks itself biscuit.

 

FSB 1333, mult 9 x

333 * 9 = 2999

Just because the default mult in QX9300 is 9.5 doesn't means you can't use lower mult .

No performance increase, more common multipliers like 4:5, 2:3 should give u same stability of 1:2 and even if u want you can run it at 1333 with a higher CAS.

 

See like I said I don't know these things... what exactly do you mean? it has downclocked itself to 1066?

Oh and thank you for clarifying BIG that makes alot more sense I'll try that out

 

this stuff is all trial and error for the first few months. no one knows whats going to work or not work. you buying the 1333 memory gives you the ability to drop the latency to super low and lower the clock speed to start over clocking back up to it. and then you can start to pass the 1333 and go higher....it should get up to about 1600 if things we're to go right...but there are allot of variables in there. you have to keep everything running close together till you find the right grove(so to speak)

BIGX333:
yeah, not going to knock your opinion on it, but i would take the 1333.

 

Makes sense john, every piece of hardware is different... some are better some are worse... I just hope mine is the first! now how would I drop my ram speeds down?

BTW it might be better if someone want's to help me Via PM I hate being the center of face palming attention about as much as you guys like answering my questions

 

So John, are you considering an M17x?

 

1333 runs at same CL of 1066 when in 1066 due the fact that the SPD is the same and we can't change CL in M17x.

EDIT@your EDIT:

Well no one think the same way and TBH i would take 1333 over 1066 in a desktop any day but in this case is totally senseless since:

1 - Bios only allow up to 1333 FSB (u can overclock more @ ntune but i don't think that much ppl is going to do it SPECIALLY who got a C2E).

2 - You can't change CL (not even in ntune).

3 - 800 or 2000 is the SAME performance in C2 (in i7 it give a small boost in performance but in C2 it's NO increase at all due FSB limits).

4 - You have divisors which make the 1333 totally useless.

But thats just my opinion .

 

Shwoooop right over my head! Clock Level?