i would love to see a M17x score that on Vantage...
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it must be a 9400m clash issue...(speculation)
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i just think its extremely buggy drivers , due to all the Hybrid things.
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I would love quad sli in M17x
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lol sometimes.....
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that's what the 9400m is...a hybrid sli. i would start by disabling that video card first and getting the 280m's working second.
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we can't disable the 9400m
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i must admit from the benchies i have seen it doesnt appear to be "all powerful" performance
granted that i know there will be issues with the 9400 but still
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well this is just as the first people get it... when they fall into the hands of more experts then you will see the performance with the latest drivers and such...
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ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer
<-- Expert ship me your M17X
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Tis is the way of life, Survival of the Fittest.
When i get mine i am going to try every way possible to OC my GPU and get the record in Vantage for a 260m gtx......For the E-peen of coarse
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im working on a gtx295 single card record right now...very dammn hard to get unless your running sub zero temps....
what do you mean you cant disable that 9400m gpu? the chipset is an nvidia chipset, but the 9400m is an onbaord gpu...im lost here... -
It's both if i understand correctly .... Kinda new but the 9400m acts as both IGP and Chipset
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hummmmm, now that is interesting....
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I believe they still show up separately in Device Manager. I can check it later today.
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Then the question is can it simply be disabled through DM without affecting the chipset.
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Only you can answer that since I don't have the System. ....
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The 9400m is an IGP built into the MCP79 chipset (or vice versa depending on how you want to look at it) and it's all on a single die. It's the equivelant of GMA4500 or HD3200.
The 9400M doesn't run at the same time as the GTX M cards in some kind of tri-sli combo it's only there to offer switchable graphics via HybridPower. The GeforceBoost portion of HybridSLI isn't supported like it is in notebooks such as the Studio XPS 13. -
I do agree but at the same time it doesn't "disappear" when running in SLI. Windows still sees the gpu and loads the driver even with SLI on. So the question is not trying to stop the hardware but stop the driver from loading. Even in SLI mode OCCT recognizes the 9400M but not my 280s. I think there is something to this theory that requires more testing.
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dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate
why don't you delete the 9400 in the inf. or thats a whole our set of problems.
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Someone needs to check to see if there is a separate inf for the 9400. I assume there is but I haven't looked. We may also be able to simply disable it.
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For what purpose? To OC the 280M?
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To see if it is causing some type of performance issue with the 280M.
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None of the newer drivers install right for benchmarking?
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The 186.18 work and the 2 drivers from Dell work. I haven't found any others.
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It ran crappy with the 186.18 drivers.
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yea i heard crysis on this runs just as well without sli... this really needs resolving...
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oh man, no one will post some results with 260/280 sli on crysis with 1920x1200 and high/very high. :-(
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dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate
i used 190.15 for crysis.
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I posted some of my initial tests a few pages back.
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I can give that a try later today.
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you mean this?
Crysis test w/186.18 drivers:
1920x1200
Minimum=15
Average=20
Max=30
1920x1080
Minimum=15
Average=21
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Let me know exactly what you're looking for and I can post it later when I get home.
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Dox drivers are not working right. In boost mode (SLI enabled) the colours go bad and everything becomes green and white. When I do Fn+F7 the colors get corrected but SLI is disabled. I believe I can still run the benches with the disorted colors but then what is the point. The method listed in Moo's signature does not work. I wish I had a day to do all kinds of stuff with this (no nasty stuff).
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I need some results from Crysis/Warhead with very high and with high details and res= 1920x1200 without aa.
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yeah...im working on that...
put it this way...they will all play warhead on enthusiast settings...but!..20 to 25 fps ans slow motion graphics might not be the best thing for everyone. better to run gamer settings with 2xaa or a modded config to get a full enjoyment out of it. people running dual desktop cards aren't conquering it so why would a laptop...
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Go back to stock drivers and double check those results. Do DX10 all high and all very high at 1680 x 1050, and I'll come back with single 280M stock results. Then we'll know how well sli is scaling with current drivers.
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my gtx 275 work great on 1680x1050 with very high without aa. benchmark says avg 30 and thats good enough 4 me
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Well, gee... Thanks for your informative post
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Originally Posted by ex2j
my gtx 275 work great on 1680x1050 with very high without aa. benchmark says avg 30 and thats good enough 4 me
^^^ yeah, well that's not good enough for me...
2 gtx295's run far better with 32xQ...bet that 275 crawl's at that pace...
side note.
Ali ran these and this pretty much shows they have what it takes..he ran his cards stock...now it's time to find out how to unlock them.
GPU stock CPU @2.53 (stock)
1920x1080 DX10 No AA
172.90 127.44 207.64 129.04
GPU stock CPU @2.53 (stock)
1920x1080 DX10 8x AA
114.52 79.74 155.42 89.88
GPU stock CPU @2.93
1920x1080 DX10 No AA
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Unlock them? Has anyone even tried overclocking yet?
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they are working on it...it's a new machine and people are still a bit...how you say....cautious about things (lol- in a good way)
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OC doesn't stay (need to flash vbios)
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So no one had any luck using GPU tool? Tested it last night on my GTX 260 (HTPC) and it OC'd the cards...
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I disagree. With GPU Tool, when I went for "Find max clocks" it started increasing the clocks and it was working as I could see from the temps and fan speeds. The problem was, while it was stressing card0, Card1's temps were increasing. So hte application can indeed overclock these GPUs but the problem is how to get it work right on both cards. And as you can see from John;s post, these cards at stock drivers and stock clocks is equal to a highly overclocked 9800m gtx sli and beats Xfire 4870 by about 20% with no AA. Isn;t this something?
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@johnksss you have 9800gtx sli,right? Could you run crysis with 1920x1200 with very high and high without aa ,too plz. then i can compare between 280sli and 9800(like 260) sli. that would be great
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I agree with you that the 280's are quite impressive.
AA is one of those subjective things and there are whole threads devoted to that debate.
I do not like AA and much prefer the increase in fps I get with AA off.
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Don't use the find max clocks method. Just set the clocks to maybe 600mhz for the core, 980 for the memory maybe 1500-1550 for the shader clocks, hit apply. Again, this is just to test if the cards would overclock. BTW, when the "sync clocks for multi-GPU" box is checked, it will set the clocks for both GPUs, even though the stress test tests only 1 GPU (which is why I say don't use the find max clock method). So after the clocks are set, run some tests to see if there is any improvement.
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What I am worried about is the third GPU (9400M). If I sync the clocks will sync them to all three? which it will probably kill the 9400M which is also the chipset which means a MB replacement.
M17x Benchmarks thread !!!
Discussion in 'Alienware' started by The_Moo?, Jun 22, 2009.