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    M17x Benchmarks thread !!!

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by The_Moo?, Jun 22, 2009.

  1. Mandrake

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    BIOS, SSD, Memory and personal OS tweaks is what separates our systems. Still 3.1Ghz is very good.
     
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    I had 10.3K stock with the x9100.
     
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    Well I am not close to done on the OS tweaks, so far I trust the bios,and memory will be with me within a week. Gonna order in a couple days so it gets to Wyoming while I am there (less wait!) haha
     
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    ok after extensively trying every fsb/memory speed the highest stable i reached is the 10x multiplier and 1260 for fsb and memory. i reached 3.15 ghz now as the cpuz reports.

    its good isnt it Mandrake?

    [​IMG]

    on higher fsb memory speed, windows os seems to work fine for 4 minutes but suddenly a blue screen appears from nowhere.
     
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    3.15 is my current goal, gonna try it out tonight. Nothing to scoff at for sure and better than most M17x owners still so congrats!
     
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    Looks good, can you supply a screen shot of your memory tab in cpu-z?
     
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    ordered the g.skill 4gb 1333 kit, will update next week when it is in, until then I am playing with the dell elpida 1066 stuff
     
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    [​IMG]

    here it is my friend. 630mhz. isnt it too low? it shouldnt be 1260mhz? or are there calculations here too?

    i got a blue screen now after 15 minutes but i kept the same settings. lets see if this will happen again.
     
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    it's dual channel memory to times it by 2.
    2 x 630mhz = 1260mhz
    it's a marketing gimmick they use. it's like have a 1ghz dual core and calling it 2ghz cpu.

    but this works twice as fast not like a dual vs single.
     
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    you guys are missing another big part of the picture...

    COOLING!

    without it, your going to be stuck! you gpu hs to run under a certain temp to maintain it's optimal speed while over clocked. i can't tell you what that is because it takes watching parts of a benchmark many times over to see where it slows down and micro stutters at or where the fps drop when it shouldn't.
    same goes for the cpu...when it starts hitting the 90c's it slowly starts dropping in speed. best to keep all 4 cores and the main cpu temp under 85'c.
    shake the heat...gain more speed. then you'll be able to drop clocks in some cases and get better scores. all depends on what your benching. grab the old house fan or portable air conditioner and have it blowing on the internal components. some times you can do quite a bit more whit less voltage if the temps stay below 50c to 60c while over clocked. also your power adapter can hold you back. if it's rated at say 180 watt's and your pushing 220 plus watts over clocked..your system will down clock it's self ever so slightly that you wont even notice, because the computer doesn't have enough juice to keep running at the high speeds over clocking demands.(some test you'll have a super high cpu d then next you know..(example: you lose like 400 to 1000 points cpu test..you cpu down clocked and that goes for the gpu as well.)... it's a bit more than just drivers. it's a total picture guys. true, drivers are a part of it, but not all of it....

    also..since this new bread of laptop is coming out which allows for over clocking cpu & gpu. it's best to start running the qualifying part of vantage.

    your over clocking your cpu and that helps the vantage score by about 15 to 20 percent. and some of these cpu over clocks wont hold up till the end. so these test really need to be ran. it wuld be different if you wern't over clocking the cpu. and we're running stock cpu only. which now...no one is.
    the gpu only test was to prove which gpu was superior ati or nvidia.
    now it's time to prove which laptop is better than which. and that's what competition is about. the whole laptop.
    wprime
    all 3dmark benchmarks you can obtain
    all demo games with benchmarks
    super pi
    cpuz validations for you cpu over clocks
    max and standard resolutions

    these laptops are no longer run of the mill. they are really hitting on the desktop standards.... where you have a bit more legit freedom to over clock ones system.

    but hey...it's just what i was thinking about...you guys carry on with the good work though!! and keep it pushing!!
     
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    that is correct for the ram, multiply that by 2 to get that actual ram speed

    and that is completely wrong donda....read the fsb ratio thread haha, me and bigx333 had a long debate on this
     
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    my friend johnksss i get around 43-47 degrees celcius now for my cpu cores ! i dont know how but you really need to stress this machine to get to very high numbers.

    i will run a benchmark 06 now with my new cpu speed without gpu overclocking and see what will happen. no blue screen yet.
     
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    when mine was at 3.2 (but unstable :( ) OCCT got one cpu core up to 73, that was highest. I am pretty happy with this cooling compared to my whitebook haha. At 3013 in whitebook I hit mid 80's
     
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    and if what you are saying is true johnkss (which i am sure it is) turning off things like ethernet, wireless, bluetooth, dimming the screen, using 1 hdd, anything that reduces power draw should potentially boost benchmark scores and performance haha

    I like the idea of that!
     
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    im guessing on your temps because i don't know the threshold.
    and to find that, prime95 and core temp 3.00 need to be ran side by side to verify how hot your cpu is getting on all 4 cores.
    also furmark needs to be ran while your over clocked fully and let core temp log tems while it's running or use riva tuner to do an onscreen display of your gpu temps.

    also, it's not about being happy or sad about ones cooling because under normal circumstances, that's good. but under extreme circumstances it's quite something else.

    and if what you are saying is true johnkss (which i am sure it is) turning off things like ethernet, wireless, bluetooth, dimming the screen, using 1 hdd, anything that reduces power draw should potentially boost benchmark scores and performance haha < --it can't may things any worse :)

    my friend johnksss i get around 43-47 degrees celcius now for my cpu cores ! i dont know how but you really need to stress this machine to get to very high numbers. <--- yeah, i was talking about being over clocked. my stock cpu temps for my np9262 we're 31/31/41/41 or 31/31/35/35/ for most of the time. and that was a desktop quad qx9650@130 watts
     
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    John i recommend evga precession tool over rivatuner. its the same thing but easier to use.
     
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    from a physics stand point, hotter means slower current flow means slower switching speed means lower frequency, so I see where you are coming from on that front. In addition to downclocking to prevent thermal damage as well

    From what I have observed, OCCT CPU and GPU tests will get your system hotter than furmark or prime95 (I used to use those, now I use OCCT) OCCT also logs and makes graphs for all GPU and CPU core temps :)
     
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    i would to don, but i didn't know it work on the mobile cards...lol

    ill investigate that one a little more later to see. but when your furmark uses opengl which will heat up them gpus rather quickly when you set it to benchmark mode with 8x msaa and a resolution of 1920x1080.

    you can't be using that standard 1280x1024. :)
    you ain't slick scook9.. put it to the test.. :)
     
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    I did 1920x1200 msaa x8 and stability test extreme burn in, OCCT still got it about 8 degrees celcius hotter (this was in whitebook)
     
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    what was 8c's hotter?
     
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    my GPU's

    10char
     
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    OMG you used the quote button!!! ;)
     
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    ok, gotcha.

    how do you make it run just the gpu test?

    yes, once in a while i do. ;) mr double/triple/quadruple post guy...LOL
     
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    i got 10394 points on benchmark 06 now. how is this possible? i have disabled intergrated graphics too. i used the dell performance driver and the cpu as i said is at 3.15ghz! and the m17x is running so smoothly now.
     
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    get the 186.24 drivers that batboy modded.

    I installed these and get 13500 with all clocks stock.
     
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    I'm a multi-quoting expert! see....

    That's below stock. Check in the Nvidia Control Panel to see if SLI is enabled.
     
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    are you still over clocked on your gpu's? or did they reset...

    along with a multiposting one too...

    mandrake:

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    It is not that I am seasoned, I will just optimize the system, then run a few hundred runs to get the highest score possible haha

    so far 10x 1280/1280 was unstable, 12x 1066/1066 was unstable, 10x 1240/1240 was stable. I really want to be at at least 3.2 :( (REALLY need to get that 1333 ram haha)

    but that stock vantage run I had was nice :)

    Puts me at 3rd highest vantage score in ORB for a qx9300 lol (for as much as that matters...)

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    everything matters. :) i'm surprised with 2.53 you broke 10k
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    it is enabled! when i reached over 15000 it was at 3.07 with multiplier 11.5 and fsb memory speeds at stock. thus intergrated graphics were enabled.
     
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    Check Aliensense to see if your power scheme is at maximum performance.
     
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    you mean alienfusion? its at high performance. thats unexpainable. did you run all the tests or only these selected by the benchmark 06 as default?
     
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    sorry misspoke. I ran everything at default. I don't select any additional options.

    Edit: Can you post a screen shot of your score?
     
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    that and a screen shot of the gpu-z.

    @john
    yeah it worked fine on my 9800m gtx
     
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    well dang, looks like i need to get around a bit more..i can't seem to rep you and mandrake...hummmm
     
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    Yeah i hate when that happens.
    what's holding you back from breaking 5ghz on your i7?
     
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    here it is:

    [​IMG]

    any clues?

    the worst is that is with my multiplier at 11.5 and default fsb and memory speed. the way i was getting 15500 before. i hope there is not something wrong with my gpus.

    any way to check if there is something wrong with the gpus?
     
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    yeah something is wrong. my stock single 9800m gtx and my e8600 did better then that.

    try uninstalling and reinstalling your drivers.
     
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    ok i now enabled the hybrid and intergrated graphics in bios and run the same test and i got the points i should

    [​IMG]

    the hybrid in bios is the sli? or the ability to change to intergrated graphics? because i cant have the hybrid option in bios enabled and have the intergrated graphics disabled...
     
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    OK! here is my score with 10x multiplier and 1260 for fsb and memory (cpu at 3.15ghz)

    [​IMG]

    BUT i have to have enabled the hydrid and intergrated option in bios.

    what is the hybrid option in the bios guys? gpus dont work in sli without it?
     
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    Hybrid SLi is the ability to run the 9400M at the same time with your 280s. So you can't have it on and disable the 9400 since that defeats the purpose. To me this indicates your 280s were not operating in sli for some reason and now they are. A GPU-z screen shot would have told us that.
     
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    heh thats what i said :p
     
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    yes but if this hybrid is off do the gtx280s work in sli? i think the dell performance driver makes my life difficult.
     
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    say what?

    Hybrid SLI and the 280s in SLI are separate things. You can have a single discrete card and an integrated card and it will still have a Hybrid SLI option.

    The whole Hybrid situation is confusing a lot of people because it's still rather new.
     
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    here's some rep just for trying... ;)
     
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    well i can hit 11850 all day long drake, but getting higher appears to be out of my reach for now, hats off to you

    I tried
     
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    yes i knew that i was just asking for confirmation. so why my gpus were not working in sli with it disabled? and how to see withe cpuz if the gtx280s work in sli? i will try to disable it again and see if the sli works.

    its weird isnt it?
     
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    are you all OC'ing gpus by flashing or with software?

    I need to get on that...haha
     
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    for the gpus you have to install nvidia performance software which is inside the nvidia system tools.
     
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    You want my help to hit 12K or should I just keep quiet and keep my record? ;)
     
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    Download Gpu-z if you don't have it.
     
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