They are 179.85 . . . should I update it to the 186.12 driver?
One other question for you guys - did your units arrive with Stealth mode on? It appeared to be on out of the box for me.
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Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator
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Mine was on stealth mode when i first turned it on .
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Up to you on the update Q Chaz... I guess its how you want to write it up - stock driver or current offer driver. To my knowledge and someone correct me if I am wrong, Dell has only posted the 186.12 aside from the 179.85.
Mandrake and his epic OCing results are probably the best way to answer that question...
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what what! chaz is the proud owner of a m17x or are we reviewing this unit?
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Hes reviewing it though im sure he wishes it was his and that one especially since its nice and loaded up
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i would use DOX 182.xx
or Bat Boys 186
@ Chaz don't be like every one else provide a real review overclocked and updated drivers .....no point in cripleing the system -
chaz ain't had a new laptop since notebookreview.com was started...way back when...lol
time for an upgrade chaz!..go on ahead and make the change...that goes for gophn as well...his sager was model number 002 of the assembly line. 001 fell off the conveyor belt...lol -
i think he has a Whitebook....
Chaz for all your program needs check my thread -
@ don
Yeh my max res is 1920x1080, but all was stock for that run, cpu and gpu
might do a clocked run when i get back from work -
Vantage= 690/1065/1725 w/x9100
3DMark06= ???...I honestly can't remember. I do remember getting good results with 630|1025|1575 w/qx9300 -
i have almost matched those clocks bar 3/4 mhz here/there and am about 150 points behind him, must be the raw clocks on the cpu
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It's legit. I've gotten up to 16.8K without OC'ing the GPU.
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Alexrose1uk Music, Media, Game
Come on Chaz, get that machine clocked; you're doing it a disservice.
My M17 with an X9100 is running about 15.6 or so, without a GPU overclock, and AFAIK your machine should be easier to clock on both CPU and GPU
Not to mention you're running a quad and a higher overall spec! -
I would agree.. It does get warm... Wish it was cooled better..
Mine didnt.. I plugged mine in before ever hitting the power button.. So I didnt have the issue with stealth mode on both systems.. Maybe lucky? -
See the Screen. Device Manager tell me is a 186.24 Driver. GPU-Z says is a 186.12. Thats it what i mean.
You have up to 16.8k without GPU OC with QX9300? You tweaked the nVidia Profile for 3DMark06? -
I still think it's legit. GPU-z is just reading it differently.
No, I did nothing with the GPUs or 3D settings except turn off PhysX and turn on SLI. -
Ok.
Another test: On Vista Safe Mode runs my M17x with 3.3GHz. With Normal Mode max 3.24 GHz. On second Partition max 3.07 GHz.
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What happens at 3.25 when out of safe mode? Is it just not stable or does it BSOD right away?
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Yes Bluescreen.
PS: Have other Users problems with DCP Latency Checker ? -
Yes, there's a thread going on about it now. I haven't checked mine since installing the new proc.
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dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate
really. wow. you better break 80fps average.when you pushed them. I was stock on the 3870 as well but my quad was pushed.
I had a lot of head room with my 9800m gtx. stock 500/1250/800=30fps average and then I believe 650/1650/930 was 41fps average.I could of pushed it aot higher then that but I didn't have the proper coolikng at the time.
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Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator
Lol - I wish I had the funds for a laptop like the M17x. I have owned two laptops in the last four years or so - my old Sager and my HP I bought last year.
I will - for now I am going to stick with the stock drivers to run benchmarks with, and then update the drivers and run the benchmarks again.
I know, I know - I'm going to do some CPU overclocking today. The Extreme CPU has the unlocked multipliers so it should be rather easy to OC.
We will see.
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oh....so you had sager model 001 then...lol
j/k -
i have mine stable at 685/1080/1700 and i can get the cpu to 2.9ghz
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Alexrose1uk Music, Media, Game
Can't be bad
Its nice to see a little more competition in the UK atm, 4850 M17 (with decent CPU), Clevo variants and the M17x are all great performing laptops; hell I think mine has caught up with your SF4 score since the CPU upgrade, Pman
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Am keeping an eye out for a programme that will let me clock and monitor my GPU temps too; the lack of overdrive functionality is a pain, nor do the normal programmes read the temps, which is a pain
Now all we need is a cheap SSD giveaway
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Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator
First try - QX9300 @ 11.5/3069 MHz
3DMark06 15457 3DMarks
Holy underwear it is fast, and I have not started overclocking the GPUs yet.Attached Files:
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urs was run alot lower res
my rig cost same as yours £1925
try doing it at 1920x1080
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you have no idea yet, wait till u catch me and drake up
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Alexrose1uk Music, Media, Game
You had parts already, that don't count, my total includes the upgrades, not a base unit which I then stuck a pre-owned QX processor in
What was your score with AA off 1920x1080?
Im not trying to be overtly competetive, I know by rights you have a stronger, more expensive laptop, I want to see how close I can get given the natural price difference (a 4850, 1920x1200 M17 base machine can be had for about £1300 now, I paid more because I got blu-ray, and then bought £350 of upgrades, looking around at Kobalt etc I'd be looking 2200+ for a similar base and upgrade path with your Clevo!) -
http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36973&d=1249598890
that was stock
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Alexrose1uk Music, Media, Game
-Chaz
Still slacking, Im on a dual core clocked but 300Mhz higher, and getting more points, you have a quad man, 06 loves the quad!
I wanna see the sweat dripping off it's forhead, scum!
@Pman
Very nice price on the QX, but yeah you get my point, your machine is more expensive, typically the QX is now £300-£400, and even with my X9100 you'd have been a few hundred more expensive; Im not arguing your system isn't nicer; it's also more expensive, and I couldn't justify the extra few hundreds
Nice SF4 score that actually, does SF4 make use of the extra 2 CPUs of your quad? I've noticed it seems exceptionally CPU limited from testing. Does it still perform the same with affinity set to 2 cores instead of 4? -
Alexrose1uk Music, Media, Game
Pman, just ran that at 1920x1080 and Im pushing 170fps. A bit lower than you but not that far off, if I can get some extra out of these GPUs at a later date, Im cooking so to speak, the M17 isn't the be all and end all, but its decent nonetheless.
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dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate
Chaz some drivers will do you good. and your cpu is alittle low then normal. your cpu should be about 4300. but keep at it.
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don i clocked up my system to my normal marks 675/1040/1675 and scored 68fps so not a massive increase tbh
Alex, i havent dont much gaming with the cards/gpu clocked up, the game didnt make use of the 2 extra cores, so you prob scored higher then me due to the natively higher clock speed, if it used all 4 cores then i would hope to get well over 200 -
dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate
Bring up your cpu to 2.93ghz.
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that was with the cpu at 1200fsb 1204 and the system locks, something in the bios killing any higher fsb
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I always assumed reviewers would be able to keep their review copies, becoming very envious of them
; I guess I was wrong?
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dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate
have you tried to play with your ram timings and see if that has any affect on it?
i thought so as well.
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they are normally two week loan or so
makes no difference mate, its evil -
2 week loan with the option to buy said unit...give or take a few days.
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john, do you have to pay full price?
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Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator
The review units are on loan for a specified period, usually from one week to one month. There is no option to buy them; they must be sent back.
Anyways, back on topic. I reduced my CPU OC to 11x/2.93GHz; I left the M17x alone for a while at 11.5x/3.06GHz and it unexpectedly shut down on me. I doubt there will be much of a performance difference between 2.93GHz and 3.06GHz, but I will run some benchmarks to test that anyway. -
FSB overclocking....either by itself or combined with multi OC...using the M17x BIOS has been more stable than just multiplier overclocking.
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well that just answered yours and mines question.
i big no on the option to buy. i would have thought that if it was a production model, you would be able to do that...i can understand if it's a pre production model then of course...no.
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I never had any luck at 3.06 chaz and some who reported they had it working eventually flaked out in some way and they dropped it to 2.93ghz . Mandrake on other hand can do 3.3ghz so its all over the map .
I imagine the review units get passed around to different sites so they dont have the option to buy them . -
yeah, that too quad...good answer *clapping hands*
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It also depends on how you OC it. I don't keep mine on 3.3 just bench otherwise it will BSOD on shut down. 3.25 is what I normally keep it on.
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P11110 3DMarks
Is what I got on the Trial Vantage test: http://service.futuremark.com/home.action?resultId=1323494&resultType=19
Specs are in my Sig. My integrated card is disabled thru the BIOS. And my 260's are stock levels with the Dell Beta Drivers. -
chaz. you should have asked for kinc's model. his was stable at 4.0 ghz...
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That's about where you should be at. With some OC you should get 10.5K-11K on the GPU.
M17x Benchmarks thread !!!
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