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    M17x Benchmarks thread !!!

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by The_Moo?, Jun 22, 2009.

  1. dondadah88

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    That was fast, Lol
     
  2. Alexrose1uk

    Alexrose1uk Music, Media, Game

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    Lol dont be greedy...besides wait 12 months and there should be superior TRUE AMD 5/NV GT300/200 based chips on the way, which should give a much nicer boost than Nvs 98--->280M jump :D
     
  3. Pman

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    yeah i wont get something until it has mobility i7's and the next gen of cards, no point really, thinking prob Q3 of 2010
     
  4. Mandrake

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    I have enough extra parts I've been keeping my eye out for a barebones type system but what I'm really looking forward to is the possibility to get the new ATI cards with the M17x.
     
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    For what its worth. I did notice some pausing in games and in wow. It would happen randomly and only last 2-3 secs tops.. FPS would drastically drop when this happened.. Now I dont know if it is related but I tied it to Everest running in the background.. When I would kill this program, all was silky smooth no issues.. Then I would enable/launch everest and the problems were reappear...
     
  6. Mandrake

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    Which drivers are you currently using?
     
  7. kilthro

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    The Batboy ones 186.24. This problem happened on the stock ones from dell, then I upgraded to the ones they have on their support page and then to BB's.. Had the issue with all of them.
     
  8. Marvie100

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    A solution like this was posted somewhere else as well. Someone working with AW tech support was told to download a piece of software like everest and run it while doing gaming and the issue was eliminated. I'll try to find it again.
     
  9. Pman

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    heh no stuttering here :p
     
  10. kilthro

    kilthro Floating in Space

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    Well, I have gskill 4gb 1333 on its way and a new WD hardrive that I am going to use for my main.. I am not happy with the performance of the Seagate that came with the system.. I have never liked them..
     
  11. Charles P. Jefferies

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    What WD hard drive did you buy? I wasn't aware they made anything for notebooks faster than Seagate's 500GB 7200RPM.
    I agree with you though - never liked Seagate.

    The 1333MHz RAM won't do much for you although it might help with overclocking.
     
  12. Pman

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    They dont make any thing "faster" then 7200 but some have better performance then others, the seagate tends to be on the lower end of that spectrum with WD at the top
     
  13. kilthro

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    Yep, I am sure its not gonna be much on the ram. However,I was going to go after market anyways and I was looking at cost.. I thought I would give these chips a shot..


    For just the main drive i went with

    Western Digital Scorpio Black 320 GB, 16 MB Cache, 7200 RPM SATA II WD3200BJKT.

    I dont need the 500gb for the main drive. I can still use the Seagate for storage.

    I have had really good luck with WD and prefer them over any other HD..
     
  14. kilthro

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    Yes I have had the blue Scorpio series 5400 WD 500gb out perform the 7200 Seagate drive by a considerable amount..

    I have just had way to many bad experiences with Seagate and prefer not to use them for to long.. If I would have been smarter and thought ahead, I would have gotten the smallest hd and just bought WD to begin with as I should have know Dell ships Seagates most of the time.
     
  15. Alexrose1uk

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    The 7200 Scorpio black BEKTs are good drives, using 2 of them here :)
     
  16. kilthro

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    Yea I went with the BJKT for the free fall sensor(only diff from the BEKT line).. Not that I ever plan on dropping it but it cant hurt to have it.
     
  17. Pman

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    I have a 7200 WD as my primary drive with 2 seagate 250gb's in bays 2&3 for backup
     
  18. Charles P. Jefferies

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    I use a WD5000BEVT (500GB 5400RPM) drive in my HP, it is similar in performance to the WD 320GB Black except for access time.

    On the topic of benchmarks, I am still having issues with my M17x review unit and stuttering/slow downs, so I am getting a new unit next week. I am also working with Nvidia on the issue. I will let you guys know if I uncover anything interesting.
     
  19. BatBoy

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    Lean on them for an updated mobile driver release Chaz... ;)

    I am in desperate need of a functional sleep mode. Granted HybridSLI implementation is still new, if they want it to catch on they have to support it. Throwing an old driver on this unit is not going to work. 179.85 was originally released by NV back on 4-23-09. *SIGH*

    What is really disturbing is that HybridSLI was first released back in May of 2008. NVIDIA has a tech brief which can be found here.
     
  20. Pman

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    seems to be quite a widespread problem, sad for the m17x
     
  21. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    i havent had any problems with mine, dont know any m980nu owners who are suffering with it :)
     
  23. nobodyshero

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    lol...because they are so few owners of M980nus, the video uploaded on in your guys' owner lounge clearly shows a stuttering problem on the M980nu, which would be no doubt a more common place problem if there as many M980 owners posting as there are M17x users posting here. Besides you guys, ever stop to think this isnt a brand or chassis problem, and more or less a NVIDIA problem and its interaction with quads instead?
     
  24. Pman

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    well i have a qx9300 and as i have said i know 4 owners of m980nus personally and none of us are having the problem

    not that it matters to the M17x's issue
     
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    Again, it's probably not just a "M17x issue" I think your being shortsighted. Clevo wouldnt formally put out a statement that there exists a stuttering problem on all of its production models and delay the Sager NP9850 for nothing, the stuttering issue is more likely a widespread issue dealing with the NVIDIA cards/drivers itself and not the brands. I've counted what 6 owners in the M980nu lounge, only 2 of which have a QX9300 and putting their system to the limits, my point is if there was as many M980 owners pushing their systems with QX9300's like the amount of M17x users are right now, I'd bet the stuttering problem would be similar in scope...
     
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    WTB Bloody fast laptop that works with no glitches XD
     
  27. Mandrake

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    Start the comparisons once you get your CPU over 3Ghz. Until then you are not stressing that quad.

    When you find one let me know.
     
  28. Johnksss

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    you guys need to drop them 186 drivers and mod up a set of 190.56's.... it's what i would do in your situation....them drivers are great for benching

    [​IMG]
     
  29. dondadah88

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    nice run. saving to my external. :)
     
  30. Johnksss

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    thanks don!

    but that's the booster right there...
    win 7 beta 7229 and drivers 190.56 with no enhancements just str8 over clocks and that's it.
    ftw on a m17x or a sager

    and the higher the fsb the better your score will be on either machine...the problem is getting the fsb stable.
    and is the pcie locked on both of these units?
     
  31. dondadah88

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    yeah i'm not to sure on that. i was thinking if someone was going to still try to find out the pll on the mobo and still give it a shot even though you can still overclock. i think it would be a big help in getting so nice scoress.

    like the w90. q9000 can hit 2.26. with setfsb it can hit 2.8ghz with turbo.

    and the pci-e is a different story but you get what i mean. :)
     
  32. Quadzilla

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    Yeah when i worked with the SETFSB guy he locked out the PCI express so it didnt budge when messing with the FSB since the first one he sent me was totally unstable and the next one it was greyed out and then it was smooth sailing. So in the M17x case maybe when your cranking on the FSB its also cranking on the PCI express ?.
     
  33. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    wouldn't it affect gpu-z then???????
    i know when using setfsb and setting the pci-e too high, you can't overclock your gpu's as high.
     
  34. Mandrake

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    You know me always up for trying different things. I'm assuming you are using a 32 bit version of Win 7.

    BTW, I installed my x9100 again and ran 690|1065|1725 GPU clocks with no stuttering in Vantage.
     
  35. dondadah88

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    Quad when you had your Qx9300 in your w90, did you have any problems/stutters with it??????
     
  36. Quadzilla

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    Never a single one but remember 3.0ghz is nothing to that CPU really IMHO.

    Only stutter i ever experienced at all was minor stuff in games but not to 1fps stutter just texture thrashing from the lack of video memory .

    Scook9 is experiencing what it sounds like something similar to the Whitebook stutter where you can tell the whole system is dragging its feet. i saw it only once when actually watching vantage(boring) .
     
  37. dondadah88

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    I honestly don't want to say it's a quad core issue in a sense of it being like the whitebook.

    it just seems to me when both(cpu/gpu) is highly overclocked, it stutters. as for scook9 case, he is currently overvolted and i don't think no one else is so i want to leave it at that until he goes back to 1v.

    mandrake it seems that you went back to your x9100. which one do you like better know???

    also i see it says that you don't stutter no more at those clocks and you also stated before that you can't break 12k on the gpu's since you put the quad in. are you overvolted as well?

    this situation seems rather tricky because of the different things that's going on with every one's unit.

    but it still can't be compared to the m17/whitebook

    also from reading a couple pages back, it seems that nvidia doesn't like a highly overclocked gpu's? is this proving?
     
  38. Johnksss

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    yep, win 7 .


    they all stutter don
    some are 2 to 5 percent...others are in the 10 to 20 percent category.
     
  39. dondadah88

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    my whitebook before fixing it was 60-80 percent. it sucked. scores like in 06 was 12k to low 15k. it was annoying thinking that i was doing something wrong.
     
  40. Johnksss

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    nope. not all your fault...you can only do so much with what you have to work with...it was like that for me when the whitebooks we're toting almost 17k scores and the 9262 couldn't get past the 15.6k barrier...but after many hours of tinkering i got it up to 16.8 and all hell broke loose...lol...i then became a troller...hahahaha. but when i was loosing..i could stay and kick it...lmao!..the good old days
     
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    The only advantage I've seen with the qx9300 over the x9100 is the 06 score. I don't know which I like better but I've always liked speed over more cores. The fact that I can get the qx9300 close to the x9100 speed is a big plus for me with the qx9300.

    Regarding the stuttering I've still only seen it in Vantage when OC'ing the GPU and it doesn't happen all the time. I've also seen it with the 186.24 drivers playing FO3. I've never seen it with the 186.12 drivers with FO3.

    No I am not over-volting. Unless I have a specific reason to I never will.

    I never seen the stuttering in 06. I can score 17K consistently in 06 with the qx9300.
     
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    P10081 on the GPU with everything stock. 300 point drop so far.
     
  43. Quadzilla

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    I tried the 190.56s not on Win732 though but i got a pretty big drop in the numbers as well . My GPU score was about 400 points lower at stock when i ran it.
     
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    I had that problem in Vista as well.

    I'm running it right now with the CPU @ 3.47 and the GPUs stock. FSB@1205.

    Edit: dropped 100 points, lol.

    Going to try CPU@ 3.47 GPU @ 630|1025|1575. If there is no improvement then the test is a failure. On the bright side I now have a 32bit OS and I can try thaiphoon burner.

    Edit2: 10938 with the last test. I'm going to try stock CPU and OC'ed GPU with the settings above. (If this info is useless to people I'll stop babbling here)
     
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    did you turn off adaptive display quad?
     
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    You mean the adaptive brightness service john?.
     
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    power management mode under 3d settings
    and what sli mode did you use?
     
  48. Quadzilla

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    I used the Nvidia recommended when i tested it . i havent done anything with it since i put the P8600 CPU back in it . I did try the performance settings with everything off as recommended and ran it in single display performance mode.
     
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    that's why the low score.

    cant be using nvidia recommend... 9 out of 10 times....that's like using some form of single gpu mode.. works great on some games though...just not benching
     
  50. Quadzilla

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    Well im sure Drake will take notice of it and give it his best :).
     
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