M17x Benchmarks thread !!!

By dual boot I mean I have 2 hard drives each with a different OS that I toggel between at BIOS POST which I want to boot off of - just to clarify

I am planning on ditching Vista soon, but not yet as I dont have the time to reinstall all my programs and move all my data again at the moment

I am uninstalling NST as I do not use it anyways, just in case that is causing the issues

And what vista updates? If you mean windows updates then yes, I am current

 

Not to split hairs or anything, but what other dual-booting type is there? That's the same one I was talking about, and since this computer has support for 2 HDD, then yeah, one on each would be the way to go.



Unless I didn't understand your post.

 

yeah right. soon as you straighten your OS issues out you'll be back at it.

 

I just wanted to clarify what I was doing, as I was not 100% what others meant by dual boot

I am actually running one hard drive in the included caddy and the other in an external e-sata enclosure (system doesnt know the difference) as my 2nd caddy has yet to arrive, should in next couple days

 

I think I will get my raid 0 and win 7 pro loaded up first mandrake

I know that windows 7 is good to go pretty much with the only thing I can't get being command center (which I wont really miss). When I do the compatibility and run as admin stuff it acts like it installed but nothing actually happens

 

yeah, that's not the light when benchmarking..
it only uses half the system and not it's full potential.

it's great for running dual or triple os's if your doing that sort of thing.

so dual or triple booting is a better way t go. everything stays independent of the other. short of the boot manager partition.

but it looks like a great tool! downloading it now to give it a test run.

 

Scook

Command Center works with Win7. Just not sense and fusion (I only use fx anyways).

 

Right. Stuff like benchmarking is out the question on VMs for sure. I should have realized scook9 is in it for benchmarking so virtual runs would not be for him.

But if you manage to install Solaris or OpenSolaris under VirtualBox let me know if it worked out for you. Although I don't think you have an M17x, so it might work for you no problem.

I really need those RAM sticks to upgrade to 8GB to drop in price soon...

 

Ya I don't do VM stuff.....1 hdd per OS haha

I will be back asking for specifics on loading up stuff in Win 7 when that time comes (probably as soon as 2nd hdd caddy arrives....!)

 

VirtualBox sucks. VMWare ftw.

 

those ram sticks did drop from their out rages prices of before. and you really need those for running vm's. a very big plus when having multiple os's running at the same time.

nope. you can have quite a few operating systems loaded on one drive..

that's what i use... vmware....but this vbox is free.

 

well for simplicity sake I will be keeping it to 1 OS per drive/array (RAID on the way)

 

Exactly. Free FTW. Especially if you are not hardcore about it, but more of a hobbyist.

OK, no more off-topic from me.

 

yeah I just find VMWare to be faster and more convenient. I tried the latest vBox and when it wouldn't load Mint, I trashed it.

No more OT for me either. *zip*

 

not a good answer...preference would have been a better one.
both ways are simple. operating systems only need partitions. and those partitions can be stored just about anywhere...

do it 1 os per drive means you need 3 drives or you need to store all your back up software on each drive for each os....very long on re installs and if you crash one drive, your stuck doing it the long way.
1 drive multiple partitions
2nd drive all your software/games/installs/copy of cd's and dvd's that you want to install 10 times faster than running around hunting for the cd's and dvd them selves/ saved games / images /backups of document folders in case you need to restore stuff that came up missing later...

just a few things that can be done doing it that way...

not to mention raid....gives you reads of about 115MB, but still at 17.3 ms is it's down fall. along with if a drive crashes...you lose everything.(not like they crash as much as they did in the old days)

but i do understand the 1 os per drive as well...

if it doesn't work, ill trash it as well. im always out for making ones life easier if it can be done..

 

I have never had a drive actually crash on me...but I do keep image backups somewhat regularly of my drives

When I upgrade OS or reinstall, it will be onto a clean drive after imaging the previous install then I just copy over all the data pretty quick (I HAVE gotten better at it over the last year haha)

If I just sit down and bang it all out, I am only looking at about 2.5-3 hours of work including all data and software and the OS. It is not as bad as I make it out to be, I am just lazy. Having a desktop to play on during this process greatly speeds it up haha

 

hahaha, in my case i use the laptop
and installs take about 40 minutes to do everything, but cutting that down to 20 minutes as we speak.

 

Well ain't it great being you! You got a $10k rig too....

 

you guys seem to forget... i had a high end laptop and that only took about 50 minutes to do the same thing this desktop is doing.
laptop had a quad, desktop has a quad
laptop 1 ssd and raid 0 5400 rpm drives, desktop has 1 ssd and 1 tb samsung drive
desktop may be about 6k and laptop was 4k
if that's what you mean by 10k

 

my recent benchmark:

Or here is the link

How come now my gpu is much lower and my cpu is much much higher?

 

physx is on. turn it off.

 

Strang because at my other benchmark they said i got such good score because i had physics on

 

This is why don said to turn physX off.

 

...... we just answer the honest way

 

Im not following your answers, what are you guys talking about.

 

What are your NEW scores.
Typically your CPU score is so high as your GPU is performing physx calculations for the CPU. We turn this off as that allows a fair comparison between machines.

When you turn Physx accelleration off, you should find your GPU score stays roughly the same, but your CPU score should drop down to ...a lot.

The reason for this is that Futuremark designed Vantage before Nvidia bought Ageia and provided GPU Physx accelleration, now with it on, it skews the results heavily, and doesnt give a fair comparison.

 

I thought your desktop cost you more, nice job on budgeting John

I have always re installed all my programs with each new OS install as my understanding is that this will give the best stability? (could be wrong) The data moving part takes about 30 mins max

 

budgeting? what budgeting? hahaha
actually it cost far less than that if i really sit and add it up...about 4500 total.

i use to do the same thing, but it takes for ever if you do that 7 times a day. trial and error testing.

best to have a base image though.

and nothing wrong with reinstalling every time...nothing at all.

 

We are all giving you short answers because at least twice a week someone pops up on this thread and ask or brags about this. We aren't mad at you or anything. It's just alittle tiresome.... But feel free to ask anything.



If you are a benchmarker, then price can't be a factor. You have to go all out......

 

So, do I currently have the highest Vantage scores right now for people with SLI 260M's? I haven't been paying attention much to this thread, curious where mine stand.

And if johnksss, Mandrake, Scook or anyone else have any secrets they want to share with me to boost my Vantages scores, feel free to PM me.

 

no you can run benchmarks. i'm not stopping you there.... i wouldn't stop just cause someone says something.....

i'm not sure about the t9600 and the 260m sli in 06. can you do some stock and overclock runs.

also vantage stocked about overclocked without physx.

it would be nice to get some more info on this system.

 

3dmark 06 is not really relevant these days, it's vantage that's the important benchmark.

Why don't you keep going, and try to beat my SLI 260M Vantage GPU score? AFAIK it's the highest with SLI 260M's so far, PhysX off.

 

My secret is a pre-dance ritual.

It's all about trying different CPU and GPU clocks, 3D settings within NST, OS tweaks and cooling. It just takes a long time with all the different options available. If you want to post some of the things you've already done then we can give additional help.

 

lemme borrow one and check it

 

Well so far I'm running on Vista, so that's going to reduce the score a little bit.

Some of the things I've done are, setting NV control panel settings for the absolute best performance. I've tried eliminating all the unneeded processes in task manager, tried different drivers, different CPU and GPU clocks, high, above normal and normal CPU priority for Vantage and the NV driver processes, turn off volume and Wifi, set vista to best performance and 16bit colors, I've done all I can think of for now, I'm running low on ideas lol.

I can't go higher than 2.75 on my Q9200, had a run at 2.8 but a BSOD followed after and now I can't do a full Vantage run at 2.8 anymore without a BSOD in the middle of it. I've tried everything in that department.

 

The processor is going to limit you a bit. What is your CPU score in Vantage without physX?

My main suggestion would be to manage your own 3D settings. In the Nvidia Control Panel under 3D Settings change Adjust image setting with preview to "Use the advanced 3D image settings". Then under Manage 3D settings select the Program Settings tab and select the program you want to change the 3D settings for. Play around with those settings and see what works for you. One change I always make is setting Texture filtering - Quality to high performance. Everything else is debatable. Just see what works best.

BTW, I'm running Vista also.

 

Physx disabled my cpu score varies from 11,000 to 11,300, wish I had a QX9300.

 

Hi all! Thanks for a great topic and forum!

I've signed up here with a few questions and you all seem to know what you are talking about! I apologise if this has been explained, but I'm a bit worried about my laptop and I cant seem to find anyone with my specs on this 100+ post topic

My M17x spec is as follows (all stock settings): -
A02 Bios
Q9000 @ 2.0GHz
SLI 260M's with dells 186.12 beta drivers
1TB RAID 0 HD's
4GB RAM

I'm using the trial version of Vantage, so all settings are as standard. I've also turned off Physx support, but my score is only 8747! This doesnt seem quite right?

Another issue is that my laptop creates a buzzing sound whenever playing games or running vantage etc... so, can anyone with my specs tell me if this is a normal stock score? Everyone else, from what I've seen, is getting a much higher score! I think I may need to return my laptop as the buzzing is annoying and I think its also compromising my performance?

Any suggestions? Thanks in advance for the replies and help!

Spike

PS - Vantage is stating that my GPU is a 170M??? Am I only running with one GPU, even though I have SLI enabled??

 

Changing drivers can get you a much better score but those drivers won't necessarily be better for gaming.

The buzzing you are hearing is more than likely coil noise from the GPUs. If it's so loud that it's annoying then I would call Dell. Unfortunately it's more common than you might think. Mine does it but normally can't hear it unless I'm trying to hear for it.

 

But looking at your score, you wipe the floor with mine! Why is that? plus my CPU score is horrible... its 7909... that doesnt seem right?

 

your cpu is at 2.0 his is at 3.325ghz.

you have stocked 260m sli. he has heavily overclocked 280m sli.

 

I'm not sure what the Q9000 should score. I'm sure someone else with that proc will pop in.

My scores should be higher because of heavy tweaking and OC'ing. Plus I'm running a QX9300 with my 280s. Our processor difference is huge.

 

fully optimzed the q9000 should be equal to the x9100 heavily overclocked or alittle faster then my e8600 in my np9262...

edit. here is my qx9300@ 2.0ghz.

your fine. some tweaking and you can past this....
your cpu is alittle bit on the low side but your cpu is fine

 

Then his CPU score is normal.

 

So my score is in the normal range? I guess thats good news then? My GPU score is 9068, is that ok? Also, how do I overclock my gpu and cpu to safe levels in my M17x? Does anyone have any decent OC settings? Thanks!

 

Is there anything you don't have a screen shot of?

 

remind me what the default multiplier is for the q9000?

 

Hey the man likes to take snapshots, let the man do his thing

 

don't ever question his knowledge. He has proof for everything. lol!