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    M17x Benchmarks thread !!!

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by The_Moo?, Jun 22, 2009.

  1. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    Your not getting boned on the price your buying the best out what do you expect ?

    For video editing get a quad core
    for gaming get sli or xfire
     
  2. spikerules

    spikerules Notebook Guru

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    Compared to US rates, believe me, I'm getting boned :(
     
  3. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    o well yea :D

    i thought you meant it was overpriced like the M17x in europe
     
  4. cookinwitdiesel

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    since no one seemed to answer this yet,

    for photoshop and video work, your will see nearly a linear increase in productivity with increases in processor speed

    If you do these alot, then the qx9300 will pay off for sure (although buy it from dectrader or hp, not dell so you only pay $500)
     
  5. spikerules

    spikerules Notebook Guru

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    Oh, thanks scook! How easy is it to install the cpu and how much will it cost? I didnt realise you could replace laptop cpu's?
     
  6. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    depends on the laptop, for the M17x it is a bit more involved but nothing bad, watch the video that the moo made on how to do it
     
  7. spikerules

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    oh, if you are in not america, it gets harder, I would say just get an ES off ebay from ShirleyFu then
     
  9. spikerules

    spikerules Notebook Guru

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    Yeah, its seems buying hardware from anywhere but the US is a nightmare! I'm going to Cayman in March, maybe the prices will be better there??? haha

    Anyways, not having much luck with Alienware tech support :( They claim I'm lying about the noise and power issues :( I'm also getting what seems like stuttering and stuff when playing games... things seem to hang and then move on... one sec i'm at 100fps and the next 20 and I havent even changed the camera angle... odd and I am not a happy bunny, thats for sure.

    Edit - Looking at solid state drives and I'm thinking about those now... would a solid state drive be silent and mean better scores in games and better for video editing??
     
  10. Skatehouse

    Skatehouse Notebook Consultant

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    I just ran 3DMARK06 and got the following score:12821, is it a good score for the configuration in my signature?

    Nvidia drivers used: 186.82
     
  11. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    sadly, so far, I am not getting any better CPU oc with my setup, it is actually worse now :(

    previously, I was able to get 3180 rock solid

    With current setup, I stopped checking at 3150 :( So it is not as high.....definitely not higher.

    I do not know if it is the Windows 7, or the new ram, but my CPU oc is LOWER than it was before :( (cant imagine it is the ram as it is spec'd for 1333 and I am trying to run 1272) WIDE open to any suggestions here.....
     
  12. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    use the different ram and see. if it has the same symptoms as the whitebook then raid is holding you back.
     
  13. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    I hope that is not the case :(

    Will be undoing RAID if that is it
     
  14. handshake

    handshake Notebook Guru

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    scook. I have the same Problem. The first time my QX runs with 3.2 GHz (Sometimes 3.24 GHz.). And now is my highest Core 3.185 GHz.
     
  15. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    the RAID is software basedwhich means more information is passed through the NB


    the less going through the higher it can go
     
  16. Mandrake

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    I'm still running the same OC with mine so I can't say I have the issue.

    Have you tried just changing the multi? Leave the mem:fsb linked.

    Edit: BTW, I keep that little piece of tin that covers the memory off. Don't know how much that helps but with less latency comes greater heat.
     
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    I noticed in Win 7 my Oc on my qx9300 did not stay stable even at 2.93. I started getting bsods randomly after redoing some drivers. I tried linking fsb/mem back and using just multiplier ect. Did not work. It was working great for awhile. I really think it is software flaking out. The drivers arent mature enough yet imo. It seemed like the bsods got worse/started after reinstalling the mcp/video drivers after testing some things. I tried a sys restore and it failed everytime. Dont know why. It would restore some items as my login screen and base mcp driver would be installed from win7 but not all things reverted. Even got the error message stating so. I think a driver messed up and will not remove right. I even tried driver sweeper and it cleaned all the drivers off the system.. I am hoping that it will be resolved once good drivers from win 7 are posted.
    I just put the chip back down to stock at 2.53 and no more issues. I will try to oc again once actual win 7 drivers are released.


    To add, OCCT at 2.93 ran fine for hours.... I did it for 2.5 hours straight.. While playing wow or messing around in windows, I would get the BSOD...
     
  18. cookinwitdiesel

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    tried 9.5x 1333 and 12x 1066, both gave me unstable. 10x @ 1272,1268,1264,1260 all unstable

    Ran OCCT before going to bed and came back to an error on core #1......with the system bonestock. This is getting quite frustrating quickly

    Is it likely that just RAID is causing this all? If so I will drop it in a heart beat as it is not noticeably changing load speeds anyway and aparently only making my system unstable and putting my data in higher jeopardy
     
  19. cookinwitdiesel

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    Ya after yesterday I am sadly considering just sticking with the Vista and waiting on Windows 7 until all the kinks are worked out. It is sad because the RC was 100% stable for me.....much more so than the final version
     
  20. Mandrake

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    I would try a different test besides OCCT for 24 hours if possible. Like running superpi or the Everest stress test.
     
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    if it can pass one, it should pass others

    Stable means no matter what I throw at it. And 3180 MHz was 101% stable on the RC and Vista (but no RAID). I have put back in the 250gb with Vista (original install from factory) and am running OCCT on that now at 3180. I will update with results from that.....(RAID turned off in BIOS)
     
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    well that OCCT run bsod'd.....gonna put the g.skill back in and see if it is somehow the memory causing all the trouble....
     
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    guess I never did run memtest on it....will do that later today (class at 10:30)

    Hopefully I just got bad ram and my Windows 7 is fine.....
     
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    if you aren't scoring above 13k over clocked in 3dmark, then your score is not ok. and if you aren't scoring over 10k over clocked in vantage...again... your score is not ok.


    you guys should post that up some where...lol

    edit:
    side note...my replacement came in today scook9...going to see if i can hit 47k over the weekend.
     
  25. spikerules

    spikerules Notebook Guru

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    Please could you elaborate on what is overclocked and what "isnt ok"? Do you mean CPU O/C or GPU O/C or both? Do you mean over 10k with SLI 260M or SLI 280M? Do you mean with qx9300 or 9100 or 9000? Please elaborate as at the moment your statement seems to be a massive generalization....

    Plus I can only seem to o/c my Q9000 to 2.28GHz currently... anyone know if I can get higher?
     
  26. Johnksss

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    by any means constituting over clocking..
    over clocking cpu
    over clocking gpu
    coolers
    Ac's blowing on units.
    benching in your garage at 1am in the morning.
    and a host of other ideas.

    and over clocking is not for everyone

    this is a 9800m single card doing 13,648 in 3dmark
    http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=10334595
     
  27. The_Moo™

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    no only those with air conditioning
     
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    did you ever go download that flash drive recovery software i posted in your thread?
     
  29. spikerules

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    Believe me, I've overclocked in the past... but I only overclock my CPU. AND, your original response is still not very clear in regards to what Skatehouse was asking.

    And overclocking a CPU alone (without GPU O/C'in) can very much improve performance! My i7 920 and i7 940 can overclock really well and I get massive performance increase in Vantage when doing so.
     
  30. dondadah88

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    spike you should really put your system in your sig......
     
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    not very clear huh... lets see....

    i said over clocked and not stock. and it looks like your friend skatehouse is stock.

    he also never said what he did just that he ran 3dmark06. not if he was over clocked or stock if he did system tweaks or not, that he did any cooling mods or not. for starters. and if i beat you with one out dated 9800m (single card), then it's really a problem!! means something si not right. again...this is over clocked and not stock.
     
  32. spikerules

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    Ok thanks! Good plan :)
     
  33. spikerules

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    Well if you look at some benchmark sites a SLI 260M setup should get you around 8900 in Vantage at stock, so his score doesnt seem so insane to me??
     
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    have you asked mr moo? is 8900 gpu score or the total score running the whole test?
     
  35. spikerules

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    Total score.

    There was a site I looked at that had a great table of adding games and 3dmark scores to your specific card... cant find it now..
     
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    i know the one your talking about...don should know that link.
     
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    see! my man don just never ever lets me down. them are the two i was referring to.

    edit:
    one of the two he was asking about, but the two that i couldn't remember...lol
     
  39. spikerules

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    He's Probably talking about BIG's site.
     
  41. dondadah88

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    thanks jon :)

    @spike what are you referring to. is it just for laptops? was it on here?
     
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    Sorry I really cant remember if it was a google search or a link on here. It had 280M SLI and 260M SLI listed along with a lot of other GPU's. I think all mobile.

    Anyways, my point is that around 8900 on Vantage @ stock on 260M SLI's is normal. Its a bit confusing coming to benchmark pages and seeing the higher numbers and making those numbers seem normal. A lot of people would rather play at stock on better gear and it confuses buyers if they see 12000 vantage points on 260M's and decide to buy on those numbers, not knowing those are O/C numbers. Maybe a O/C benchmark thread and stock benchmark threads could be made to seperate the two?
     
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    i think we need to go back to page one and start with the very first post of this thread.

    M17x Benchmarks thread !!! <hr style='color: rgb(238, 238, 238);' size='1'> <!-- / icon and title --> <!-- message --> Only post here to offer bench marks or i will ask a mod to please delete.

    PLEASE include a screen shot with all of the following

    I need benching done with the following :

    Crysis benchmarking tool
    (please provide a screeshot)
    3dmark06 (for those people) @1280x1024 res and 1900 res
    Vantage ( Run @ Performance mode.--- please list: Total score / CPU seperate and GPU seperate)
    Devil May Cry 4 benchmarking tool (screenshot)
    Farcry ( screenshot)
    Street Fighter 4 (screenshot)
    Last Remnant Benchmarking tool (screenshot)
    Also,

    Please run the following to test the CPU:

    ORTHOS ( provide HWmonitor screen shoot afterwards
    Wprime (screenshot)
    SuperPi (screenshot)


    For the GPU's please run the following:

    Furmark (please post a screen shot of the max temp and the RES you ran @)
    OCCT (highly recommended by a Forum user)

    To monitor on your system components please use the following:
    HWmonitor
    CPU-z (display CPU information)
    GPU-z (display GPU information and check your drivers)
    Everest (little of everything, i highly recommend it)
    Monitor TEMPs in game here

    thaiphoonburner
    spdtool
    these will help you change your Ram settings


    To overclock your Card please use one of the following:
    GPUtool (beta but worked great for me)
    Ntune (official Nvidia App)
    ATI Overdrive utilitys (not sure if they work on Nvidia's cards but they are Sweet apps)
    SYSTool ( OC both CPU and GPU)



    Other useful tools:

    Fraps ( record and monitor FPS IN-GAME)
    RMclock( CPU stuff)
    CPUgenie (change CPU vcore...not tested)
    Central Brain (all kinds of sweet stuff (please test)
    ClockGen( OC CPU)
    A RAM program is supposed to go here but i cannot remember what it is called... :)




    Quote:
    Kcissem

    here is my 3dmark 06 high

    16690
    here is my vantage high

    11609
    Mandrake:

    Vantage GPU: 12002
    3DMark06: 17531

    <!-- / message --> <!-- sig --> __________________
    M17x CPU Change Guide M17x GPU Change Guide
    [​IMG]


    HELP please ( pretty please?)

    WTB !!!!!!!!!!
    <!-- / sig --> <!-- edit note --> <hr style='color: rgb(238, 238, 238);' size='1'> Last edited by The_Moo™ : 08-07-2009 at 03:59 PM.

    you may have missed a few things....


    and 9800m's we're scoring in the 10k range for over clocked gpus. so there is no reason why and over clocked sli 260 setup should not be doing the same or better...(speculations of course)
     
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  44. cookinwitdiesel

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    ya sorry bout that John, this sort of became my goto thread for advice as all the big brains are always hanging out here ;)

    I will be sure to keep it to benchmarks from here on out
     
  45. Johnksss

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    cut it out scook9...rotflmao!
    you know we all jump off topic..it's just us. lol
    that was to say it was about over clock as well as non over clocking....but spike thought it should be changed to O/C thread instead.
     
  46. spikerules

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    It just makes sense to make two threads as most of us dont have the time for o/c and are seeing o/c scores instead of stock. And at the moment stock scores seem lame for SLI 260M's at the price.

    Now if someone can give me workable settings for o/c'in my M17x (both GPU and CPU) and tell me the apps I need to O/C my GPU's, then I will happily try and get my laptop to o/c. However, as we all know all chips etc work out to be different with their overclocking, for instance, I was told I could get 1250 FSB easy on my Q9000, yet I cant get a stable windows load with that FSB. The best I have managed is 2.28GHz, which is a shame :( I was hoping for at least 2.6GHz overclock :(
     
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    Hey I'm not sure if it would do you any good but try setting both your memory and FSB at the same setting in BIOs. Then boot windows use
    OCCT to test for an hour then change setting. Got this pointer from the3vilGenius. I started of with both my Memory and FSB at 1250 for a T9600 at 2.8 GHz so you should probably start lower than that.
     
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    Thanks, but I am a little scared to change my memory speed, as the last time I did that windows crashed and told me I needed to repair. I couldnt load windows at all and had to do a fresh install... then again I did raise the memory only, so that might have been the issue??
     
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    ok, you seem to be going back and forth my friend...either your over clocking or your not?.. :D

    and that list about 3 post up gives you everything your asking for in this post.

    have you found someone over clocking this cpu to 2.6 anywhere around? i think vicious with his w90 got it up to 2.7 ghz..but that's a w90. as far as i can tell...i dont think they we're having very good luck with this machine....but...yes there is a but....with each updated bios...chance will increase on your over clock. (speculation of course) be glad you have some type of over clocking...with my 9262 i had none. all my scores we're over clocking the cpu..no fsb/memory/timings/cpu or anything else helpful.

    and they did give workable settings, but got lost in the 4000+ post in this thread. the man who started this thread is the king of 260m single card. and probably would be the king of sli if he had 2. just ask him. he will give you some direct pointers. (im thinking he will anyways..lol)
     
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    I prefer to NOT o/c but now I have the system I am not happy with its performnce. I bought my girlfriend an MSI laptop for 1/4 of the price and it has a 4850 in it and performs just as well as my heavy beast of an alienware laptop. I thought alienware had good optimization and were for gamers etc :(
     
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