M17x Benchmarks thread !!!

thats why I have 3 computers haha (worst case scenario - 2 go down, the HTPC can be a main machine if i just load office onto it lol)

Have never had that happen though, always got the laptop or desktop up and running

Do you mess with the PCI-e freq. when tweaking and/or OC'ing Johnksss? I am tempted to try this out on my M17x but would mean using NST which I am not a fan of. Any ideas/tips?

 

I do have 3 but it means sharing with my wife.

 

I guess if we get to extremes, I have my ipod touch as a fall back too haha

 

now that would be wishful thinking there, but if they send you one...i would surely try to follow suit! no shame in my game..none what so ever!

 

If they did have to replace it I'm sure it would be a recertified T61 or something similar...but one could wish.

 

guys how much difference does the crossfire 4870 makes in comparison with sli gtx280? i mean what more can someone expect than 60fps on crysis? in other words if someone has sli gtx280 does it deserve it to change to hd4870s?

this 145% that alienware says what does it refer to? in comparison with what?

 

Aristotel you have a best machine.
just thought id let you know...

 

We'll let you know as soon as we get them but I believe the 145% is over a single 260.

 

its not in comparison with the sli gtx280 for sure. even the alienware diagram (which i am sure overqualifies the 4870s) doesnt show something like that.

except this dont forget the importance of the drivers. 4870s ddr5 really rock but ati mobile drivers are far behind (see the asus w90 thread). thus alienware doesnt refer what game they tried those benchmarks to.

 

The W90 was a different beast with fake ATI cards. It was too reliant on Asus.

 

yup mandrake is right. the 4870's are going to be big. i strongly believe nvidia won't counter attack because of the fact that ati just had perfect timing on these.

nvidia released the 280m to fight the 4850 on the w90 in june/july.(which if you seen the review. it wasn;t fair. since they didn't change anything on the w90(drivers were a year old with 8.6 i believe) and it was using one card is most benchmarks. where as the 280m sli where very up to date with there drivers and tweaked and physx was on when needed. (aka cheating) )

ati just dropped the 4870 with gddr5 and the 5870, x2, 5850, etc for desktop with dx11 for w7.

nvidia now have to make a gpu to fight the whole line up for desktops (which is alot of work) and it doesn't make sense to do anything to the mobile line up because w7 with dx11 is next month. so ati wins this round.

unless nvidia wants to be ******* ****** and use the 8800m gtx core and put .1 stream processors on it and make the clocks higher. i heard of them releasing the 285m and it's just higher clocks. (i like nvidia but they make me laugh.)

i would have to say ati FTW. (they just have to get there drivers working right)

also dell knew the ati's where king. and i believe flextronics saw that as well. thus making them XT cards. and raising up the price. (the price wouldn't be higher if it wasn't better(hint hint))

 

Nvidia has moved on to rebranding 40-nm versions of some of the G200 desktop GPUs instead of the 8800s for mobile cards....and it seriously looks like that will be the architecture Nvidia will use to compete against the 5000 series in the mobile market. There's still a new 40-nm G200 series GPU due out which by it's naming should have more than 96 cores and I'd have to hope greater than a 128-bit memory bus. (256-bit w/GDDR3 and GDDR5 combos would result in two new card options off the same GPU)


I wouldn't rule out Nvidia also using G200 tech in the lower end desktop market and saving the new G300 tech to compete against the desktop 5870. Nvidia has been reported as saying that after seeing the 5870 in action they believe that they're G300 will beat it. Would be nice if they started releasing some solid specs and info on the tech to back that claim up though.

 

With the 4870s and the M15x being release is it time to make a part 2 of this thread? "All Powerful" Benchmarks!!

 

Lol. keep the m15x separate,

 

Well I guess we'll wait until the first scores start popping up. Maybe I can do a 4870 benchmark thread.

 

mmmm. i would just call it m17x 2.

because i'm going to post up to much stuff on there not relating to the 4870 and people are going to get mad. lol
"this is meant for the 4870x2 not xxxxxxx and xxxxxxx and xxxxxx and xxxxxxx"

 

you'll probably need your own thread, lol!

 

Lmao. i'll just take over this one since everyone will focus on the new one.



day 1
i opened up the box to see my beauty has arrived after so long. i refuused to game heavy on it and i don't want to overclock it because of how good it looks

day 1. 15min after
i overclock the crap out of it. lol

 

best to wait and see what they do before jumping off the reservation saying they are far better...ati has mobile driver issues. they have the right idea, but only if they can back it up with drivers. they would have a jump on things if it didin't take 6 to 8 months to make the things work. 6 to 8 months is usually when the next round of cards start to surface.

and there is already talks of the 5000 cards not being able to beat the gt300 series...more internet talks as usual since the gt300's haven't surfaced yet. but given what's out there...the gt300's internals "look" nothing even remotely close to being re branded since it was a new design. (more internet talks of course)

i may try a 5000 series card this time around. for testing purposes though. im not impartial...i want the all around top of the line card...not the 3dmark06 (outdated benchmark card)(but MSAA champ card) benchmark champ card...

lets hope it only takes a month to get these new 4870's up and running the way they we're meant to run!

 

As long as the current Win7 Mobility drivers work on the machine we are golden. ATI now release the new mobile drivers the same day as the Desktop drivers so again if they work like they should we shall be fine. For the Vista users hopefully Mobility modder will support the cards without issue or the creator will implement support for the 4870m.

 

me...im gonna have to wait till mandrake or striker run the first set of test to really believe that one. that's been said with every card released and so far...hasn't been the truth yet.

 

ATI only recently started full Mobility support through Win7. I have had 3 sets of drivers for Win7 on my M17 already . They dont work on the W90 because of the X38 chipset as that was broken for desktop users as well.

 

im talking support in general. you spend 2500 bucks, it should work, right?

and since no one has a 4870 gddr5 card trying these new supported drivers for win7...it's still just a guess, right?

im all in favor of them working, just not going to believe it till it's really confirmed by someone i know. then it's no longer internet speculations..

 

Lol well clearly i am speaking generally . Of course like everything else in the universe there can be issue's and no different then not being able to use the old drivers on the M17x even after modding them.like the 185.20s we wanted to try out so badly but never worked because of display corruption. Im trying to remain optimistic though since ill be grabbing one with the ATI cards in it as well ...

 

can't open pandoras box here haha

HOPE FTW

 

Support for the 4870m is already included in Mobility Modder:

 

yeah it doesn't mean it installs like the w90.

i hope it does work it. it should since flextronics is doing it instead of asus...

 

i always stay open minded to all, but also look at all sides of a picture.

so as long as someone confirms it works. cool. means we can skip the dreaded make it work stage and just jump in and start testing..but if they confirm it has issues yet again.....it will be chalked up to what i said earlier.

in this case, i hope i am wrong!

edit:
i may get back into the high end laptop game if these cards prove to be just like their desktop counter parts though

 

You wouldn't wait for the 5k/GT300 cards John? That is what I am thinking I will do

Unless of course I manage to find a buyer for a pair of GTX 280m's easily (and AW actually sells this upgrade kit)

 

I'm just curious who will be first to rip open the field with the i7 and xfire/SLI 5k/300series cards. Rumors going around Clevo won't refresh the m980nu until q2/q3, you'd think someone would unveil this combo platform earlier.

 

no it would be alienware if anything working with flex.

i would say ocz but we know what happened to them.

i don't think there is anyone else that would step into that market.

toshiba would put crap gpu's in it like the qosmio(9800m gts sli isn't garbage but you get what i mean)

and asus has a bad rep so i don't think they would do something for a while.

i can't think of no one else doing this though. except clevo/flex/ and maybe quanta.(not likely them.)

 

that's a whole nother animal there scook9. since the gt300's aren't anything like the gt200's. and since there is talk of gddr5 memory on them as well. (internet speculations)

plus i was thinking more along the lines of trying out the ati cards once again.....still in the thinking stages...

that or go subzero.

i could go for one of these for sure!

 

we could all go for one of those haha

Gonna give a quad fire 5870 rig a go? ougtha be pretty hefty hehe (and DAM those cards are cheap for the power you get - GO ATI)

 

nah, not a quad 5800 rig. a 5800 card. im waiting on the 300's as far as my desktop is concerned. nvidia is finally getting the hint and coming new.(internet speculations) so if they kept up all this time with old tech...wonder what new 40 percent (40 percent comes from them using this g92 over and over and over again, but yet it kept gaining speed. till it finally maxed out on a 280m 100 percent)tech will bring...rotflmao! you know they wore out that g92 and it still competes..go figure? probably has way more do do with ati and the infamous driver issue, else g92 would have gotten retired last year.( by an ati force out)

 

I'd say ASUS with a new W90 for the first 5000 series Crossfire + i7 config.

Not many notebook manufacturers use dual GPU configs for notebooks so you won't have many to chose from.

 

yeah. that's what i was saying. but what are the chances of it selling since the w90 was a big
/fail
?

 

that's a tough one. one would think it would be asus as well...since they do have quite a few milestone moves in their corner...

edit:
just ran a test and got beat by a 5870 on a on a single gpu test.
stock 9860
over clocked 13604
and he got a 16236 on stock
or

gpu test 1 - 41.6

gpu test 2 - 38

vs

gpu test 1 - 48.7

gpu test 2 - 46.3

interesting numbers there.

 

when you say single gpu test. i know you have the 295 which is two 285. correct? did you disable the second gpu inside the main one. do you get what i mean,




i'm bored. here's an old benchmark from my sager. i don't know if i was stocked or overclock but i decided to put it up since i haven't seen anything in a while.
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X3 - Terran Conflict

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Game Version: 1.2.0.0



Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7100) (7100.winmain_win7rc.090421-1700)

DirectX Version: DirectX 11

Graphics Card Info: NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GTX [2798 MB] Driver: 8.15.0011.9015

CPU Info: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8600 @ 3.33GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.3GHz

Usable System Memory: 4096 MB





Video Settings During Benchmark:

Screen Resolution: 1920 x 1080 * [32], fullscreen

Using Shader Profile: 3.0

Antialias Mode: 4x

Anisotropic Mode: NONE



Graphics & Shader Settings:

Texture Quality: high

Shader Quality: high

High Quality Bumpmaps: enabled

Environment Mapping: enabled

Glow Filter: enabled

Ship Color Variations: disabled

More Dynamic Lights: disabled

Used Vertexsize: 40 bytes



Framerates

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Scene "Trade" 43.4 average fps 16.0 minimum fps 101.0 maximum fps

Scene "Fight" 75.1 average fps 36.0 minimum fps 119.0 maximum fps

Scene "Build" 67.3 average fps 45.0 minimum fps 95.0 maximum fps

Scene "Think" 36.7 average fps 26.0 minimum fps 59.0 maximum fps



Overall average framerate: 55.6 fps





(c)2008 EGOSOFT

For more information visit http://www.egosoft.com

 

295 is two cards with a gpu on each card.
i disabled one gpu and ran a single. and the 5800 is killing it. really more to do with the clock speed than the card itself. if i clock up to where a 5800 is running...it would be in the same ballpark.

but these 5800's are no jokes.

 

Oh ok. Just making sure you only had one card running. But these cards or serious.

 

the 5870 is on par with a full gtx 295 I believe

 

Serious cards indeed! Makes me wish I had spent my money on a desktop instead, only part of the time.

Weekend came and went with no new high benches. All the new benches I ran are 8% lower than my previous. Gotta figure out which new program is hogging resources.

So is mandrake sending his back for the new ATIs?

 

No I sold mine in the NBR marketplace. Then I reordered on Saturday with the ATi cards.

 

Nice! Can't wait to see your new benches once the new one arrives.

 

you're not the only one.

 

here's a random benchmark from my whitebook.
World in conflict. 1920*1200 maxed.

alot of stuttering.

 

christ don why post that here?

 

Because Don is bored. I think because no one else is posting any benchmarks.

 

Lol. i am bored. i'm comparing my whitebook and sager and see how high of a difference the two cards are.

 

better than nothing??