M17x Crossfire in 7

I dunno, why?

 

did you clear your cache folder and grab a new version of the page?

edit: or maybe you better save that for future compensation. then you can send it to dell..(speculation of course)

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look at your link it has CAD in it. The upgrade price in the US is $700 for ATI crossfire and the 280M SLI is $600.

 

This is the cheapest way to get them .. Nebula red comes standard and so does 260 SLI all for $1999.00 .. So Crossfire only costs you $400 more...

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&oc=DKCWQNR&s=dhs

 

as long and your willing to wait over a month to get it.

 

Eh?.........

 

I'd go with the 4870's if they were priced right.

Unfortunately, they are not.

 

Heh, I'd swap my 280s for 4870s anytime, no matter if GDDR3 or 5. Too bad they weren't available back when I ordered. I'll just wait for 5870s or GTX 3xx cards and upgrade to a pair of those later on.

 

ah dammn, your right, mah bad. it was canada.

but still..didn't the 4870s always cost more than the 280m's?

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in the US yes but that's the problem.

 

then I should import two like a sky line

 

ok, you lost me.
even the 4870 gddr3's cost more than the 280m's.
but they priced to under cut the 9800m gtx and match the 9800m gt's. thinking the 280s and 260s would cost more than the 9800m gtx's

so, with that in mind...if they we're in fact gddr5..then that cost would go up from there.

and the CAD dollar is not the same ratio here. not sure how their price reflects with the american dollar. (with the conversion and dollar rates)
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In some parts of Europe the 4870s are cheaper indicating they are not GDDR5 but in the US it is the opposite. The whole situation is confusing. The bottom line is US buyers got ripped off for the 4870s.

 

yes, but so far..no one has gddr5... or has that changed?

 

Don't think Dell has any GDDR5 cards... at all.

They've completely removed all reference to GDDR5 from the website at this point.

 

I cant remember ever seeing GDDR5 on the website ? only on the order sheets IRC..

 

In France, on Dell's web site, we've got "ATI® GDDR5 Mobility™ Radeon™ HD 4870 1 Go double CrossFire™" :

http://configure2.euro.dell.com/del...s=dhs&sbc=laptop-alienware-m17x&~lt=alienware

 

dont get added to the list of people thinking they got gddr5 unless someone can produce it....

 

omg...just just changed my order also and it now no longer states gddr5's....You would thing they would would have sent an email or called not just changed the order. That really isn't right at all....

But, even with all the hoopla I will still be happy as long as they bench higher then the 280's....do we have any proof at stock levels if they are higher then the 280's yet?

 

They should be about equal, if not a little faster. They're still good cards, just not the powerhouses the GDDR5 versions are (which offer even more efficient AA etc)
Given the higher shader power, they will likely still perform a nice bit faster in shader heavy titles, even if its not always reflected in benchmarks

 

Fastlappy, according those in the know here, the 4870s even with GDDR3 will and do bench higher then the 280s. I dare to say though I doubt that will be very noticable in real world usage.

 

ok, well in the grand scheme of things I will still be happy and not pitch a fit as long as they bench higher or are equal in performance to the 280's. When the thing actually ships and is in my home I will work on getting some type of compensation from the crooks who changed my order. I still have the order confirmation email that states gddr5 so they will have to do something. Assuming it ever shows up! Thanks Kryptonian!

 

Well as long as you're happy, thats all that matters in the end. im sure they will give you some kind of compensation.

 

When your system actually reaches your house, your packaging slip will also state GDDR5.

 

well...looks like the France site has them 28m's at almost double the price of the 4870's

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I saw this also! Does this mean the ati's should be about the same price as the gtx260's not priced near the 280's? So with this being the case we should see credits of like 300-400 bucks! I am sure they will not admit a pricing mistake of that size. The only thing I think will happen is they will discontinue the cards if there is enough flack over it.

 

That's what you tell Dell when you call. They shouldn't be priced over the 280s. One could argue they should be the same.

 

well...i think they may use notebookcheck for their reference...(speculation of course)

your still far under the 280m's. where as out here...it's a 100 dollar difference.
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Gotta love how each country see's them being worth more or less lol..

 

Anyone has any idea what is the stock clock and memory speed of the 4870 in the new m17x?

 

tis is true quad!

testing out the amd/ati setup now on my new netbook. that hp failed the test. seems this amd chip is just as fast as that dual core atom was and it's a single core.

 

Here is the proof to back up your quote.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=424518&page=18

SLI vs. CrossFireX

Both QX9300 clock at 2.8Ghz and stock GPU

 

Was just about to come in here and post the same Rengsey.

Right now we've got two stock comparisons up for those of you interested.

 

GPU benches are really close huh! But is does show ATI to be the winner....and didn't I read somewhere that the ati's don't bench as well as the nvidia's? So the frame rates should be much higher then 280's?

 

It depends on the benchmark you are using.

 

ATi usually doesn't bench as well as nvidia cards yet they tend to give better real-world performance.

 

dell does not have any gddr5 cards. this i have confirmed through both main sources i have at dell. all current m17x are shipping with gddr3 as far as anyone i have spoke with can tell. whether it will change later no one knows but from a little birdie prob not as if the m17x gets another refresh it will be next year to the new gen chips and most likely a new gpu will be out by then. the guy i have been talking with said he apologizes greatly on the behalf of anyone at dell who thought they were gddr5. he knows that is not enough but he did 100% sound very sincere about it on the phone. he SWEARS to me it was a " el switcho chango" pulled at the last minute and ati told dell they were gddr5 as was shown in the specs whitesheets they had from ati..

 

Well they are still great GPUs either way and im sure no one will be disappointed ..

Still deciding if im gonna reorder or wait for the next revision...

 

I am. ;þ

10char

 

could be another year phinagle or scrapped altogether.(pure speculations of course)

 

Buying a HP DM1, or Acer 1810TZ, (or Ferrari One if it comes to the US) until Arrandale/Westmere. Maybe HP will release an Envy 17.

 

No big deal, really.

Once the new mobile 5 series hit the 4870 will be LONG forgotten

 

Definately

 

humm, the msi is smoking that ion/atom setup. i had a hp mini 311...it sucked. and im not a big fan of amd chips, but this single core is far better than the dual core atom. the acer was to slow and had major hulu/youtube keep up issues, but also could be because i was in the store testing them out...although i grabbed the msi and it seems to be a nice fit thus far. it's all amd/ati. i was a bit surprised really.

let me know if you get a hands on on the dm1 though.

side note...
next up..cod4...time to see if this will beat the hp 311...lol

 

HP DM1 is a dual core CULV/GMA 4500 set up not an Atom/ION like the Mini 311. Acer 1810T/TZ are also dual core CULV/GMA 4500, but maybe you tried the single core SU3500 or Atom Z520 model which does choke on flash vids.

Acer Ferarri One would be my first choice if it came to the U.S. with it's dual core Neo with HD3200 and an XGP for an external HD4670. Would have been better if it used the 1.6Ghz Turion x2 Neo instead of the 1.2Ghz though.

 

dang phinagle..getting me all side tracked...lol

but now i can mess with the ccc and see what kind of gpu over clocking can be done. along with understanding parts of the m17x ccc

 

Big shocker there ;p

 

So, i've been using mine non-stop now, trying all the various games I play normally. I have to say, despite the fact that the cards are GDDR3, I am very happy with them, and the laptop overall.

 

Glad to hear it!! Mine is coming soon and after seeing some of the benchmarks and peoples reviews I am still excited. Assuming I get it before christmas! lol

 

And what about temperature Zennik? Did you read the temperature of your 4870 in full charge? (In Everest for Exemple in order to compare with Sli 280mGTX cards)
Thanks for your answer.