M17x refresh buyers- why not wait for ATI 5870's??

I agree, I rather wait and get the NVIDIA GPU

Still not sold on ATI mobile drivers or rather the lack of

 

OK，gambling for another two weeks.
SWEAR TO GOD, THAT WOULD BE MY LAST DEADLINE.

 

I have been waiting forever and nothing happens yet :S

 

didn't some sales reps say that a new gpu was on the way when some people on this thread ordered a m17x? must be the 285m.

 

5870's are coming. Should be out before April. There in final testing now.

 

sounds like quite "inside" source

 

so... where is this news coming from?

 

I don't know about mobile Fermi parts. The desktop versions have huge dies, massive transistor counts and crazy TDP. It's going to take a couple of die shrinks before we see them in notebooks IMO.

Or maybe they cooked something up for notebooks only? Some crazy 192 core frankenchip?

For now dual 5870s with all that boucoup bandwidth seems like it would be a great choice for discerning gamers. All Dell has to do is make it available for sale.

 

I remember hearing during a presentation of the fermis that they are designed specifically to be split into fractions for mobile use or something of the sort. My interpretation of this is that nvidia designed the fermi tech with the thought of mobile in mind.

 

My deadline is ended. I ended up buy myself a Dell Studio 17

GT200 in R3 then

 

It will still be called the M17x-R2 even after the 5870s are released. The next M17x will be a complete redesign.

 

You think so? This chassis is pretty awesome. The insides could look different on the next gen, but the external appearance should stay the same.

5870s might need a bit more room... I think there will be an R3 with updated cooling for dual 5870s and whatever Nvidia has planned next. I hope I am wrong and the new cards work in my R1 (but I doubt it). I know the GPUs run cooler, but GDDR5 runs hot.

 

i understand, it's hard to keep money on hand

 

Redesigned cooling won't be needed. The GPU cooling is more than up to the task. The design won't change for the 5870s.

 

Any new updates on the 5870XF? Rumors, leaks, predictions?

 

You can actually put your money where your mouth is on this info.

Darkhan is known among the NBRer to give accurate info regarding new releases.

 

will 5870s fit in the M17x R1 and R2?

 

i hope darkhan is correct. still, i don't know why alienware didn't announce it during cebit if it was going to be released within a month.

 

I wonder how much of an upsell they will be. My guess is $300 CF vs. CF.

 

wont be any they aren't selling the 5870 alongside the 4870.

 

The price should not increase. They will just propose the 5870 CF at the same price than the 4870 CF is offered today.

 

Well mobile fermi is a reality: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=6004666&postcount=553

 

I'd just be happy to see them finally choke out a mobile part at 40nm.

 

OK, here is my dilema.
I received my M17x-R2 last week but it arrived with a bad secondary gpu so I placed a replacement order. My replacement is still in the build stage and I think it will be in the build stage for the next 1-2 weeks, at least. My question is, should I cancel the replacement while I still can, return the current faulty system for a refund and then wait and re-order with the 5870xf when they become available (hoping before the end of March)? The only reason that I'm hesitant to do that is if I cancel the replacement, return the current system and the 5870's don't come out in the next 2-3 months, I'll be stuck with no laptop at all. What should I do?

 

For me, 2 months without any PC already........

 

same here, I am using my roommate's laptop for now :S

 

Same with me

I'm using my girlfriends anchient HP laptop, since they nicked both of my rigs...

But the wait is unbareable, have had a offer from Dell for 13,6% off, without coupons for a M17xR2 720/4gb/1900x1200/4870CF/6300minicard/2x500+2yr warrenty... It still stands for 2 weeks. Hopefully the 5870's won't take long anymore, so I can cut the deal with those cards, else I have to order...

 

Why would they want to keep it a secret?

 

Because they have got only six, and costed $459293,99 to manufacture and are never going to be mass produced. It's only announced to let people wait, to not buy Ati...

 

Agreed..

Marketing department is pretty good compared to their chip designers....

 

I think that website is trying to generate hits if no one else saw this mythical system.

 

at least u can use a laptop, i only have my mobile phone instead.....

 

A netbook cost less than $300, go buy one.

 

hi Guys

Its my first post but i have been reading this forum from ages.may be this is not right place to post to post my question but i was unable to find hw to start a new post


I bought Dell XPS m1730 first but did not like the design and silver keybaord thus sold it off

Got M17x with 280m in sli and had had lots of problem with laptop within a 5 days s of getting it, with psu dying, laptop freezing, touch sensitive buttons not working properly etc and terrible tech support which sent three engineers in span of 2 and half months who were unable to even attempt to repair it as they were seeing first m17x and had no idea how to open it even.

Ultimately tech support complied and told they will replace laptop.

Just to be clear i have NBD and accidental damage cover as well and got really frustrated with tech support

I have lost invoice so have no way of confirmation how much i paid for each upgrade and almost none of the upgrades is available on website now

Now some questions which i am unable to find answers myself and will be delighted if you guys can sort it out

when i bought laptop in start of oct 09, i believe i paid 850£ for sli 280m on base single 260m. Am i right? Did they cost 850 upgrade in nov, as i cant seem to remember for sure but i place figure around 850.

I got p8700 which i beleive was right in mid high of processor lineup/choices so i must have paid some premium for it? i cant remember the price for upgrade.Can please somebody tell me the price for upgrade

everything else is basic, 4gb 1066mhz ram, standard burner, 250*2 hdd in raid. lower 1440 screen.


they sent me an replacement quote with everything same except they gave me i520m processor, which is base in uk and 4870 in crossfire.

Now i believe my con-fig cost around 2550 £ accounting for 850 £ upgrade for graphics and around 100 something for processor and may be some 20 -30 for hdd.the config which they have sent me cost less then even 2000.They said on phone that config will be more then the equivalent money ie. 2550 as a compensation for delay and time spent entertaining crappy support and engineers, while they have quoted far inferior config??


what should i do now? how to proceed further?what are my rights? can i cancel the order? ortell them they are cheating as basicallyi have nt used the laptop while i paid for it in oct?

I was hoping as for 2550 and more as compensation i should be getting rgb lcd, i720qm, 1tb hdd and 8gb ram and more.
AM i right?

Is it a good configuration? please suggest me

I have been closely following hd5870 and despite of so many people quoting they will be out in march and for same price as dual 4870, i cant seem to find a confirmation.should i wait for them? what difference they will make in gaming, video, audio?


i will be connecting my laptop to home A/V receiver through digital audio out? i heard they have better sound quality as well? is it true?
what about dx11, how useful is it in games and software's like solid-works, photoshop?

 

I just did that, so now I can wait till the 5870 comes out

 

i would ask for a complete refund if you havent used the laptop and if you have a complete log of when you complained,
also if they do a swap they are meant to give you the equivelent spec or better.

but i would be pushing for a refund as well if they have had your laptop for over 30 days thats the road i went down.

but rgb is not available in the uk for a couple of more weeks if the bloke i spoke to was correct, 5870s im also waiting to buy a new laptop with 5870s but it could be a long wait nobody knows for sure, im hoping its the same time as rgb for the uk.

but if i could i would try and get a refund, you have been without a laptop for for months now, waiting for another to see if anything new comes out aint really that bad.

 

i dont have a laptop config yet bud as im waiting, but it be rgb xfire and what ever processor i can get for my money, not really botherd about hdds at the moment their 2 a penny unless i went sdd and i wont be doing that anytime soon.

well im struggling to read your post bud , im not sure as you brought from outside the uk how that works.
£850 for sli seems abit steep
p8700 i think is their abouts an i5 processsor

but try and get your money back stop messing around with this upgrade and that upgrade just stop what your doing and get your money back and start again..... well thats what i would do i allready have done.

 

If I buy the M17x now, will I be able to get Dell to install the new GPUs for the amount they charge on the site for the upgrade? Also, if Dell comes out with a new M17x, will I be offered a chance to upgrade my system to the new one?

Thanks.

 

I kind that I have the same question, I hope that someone can provide information about this..

 

There is NO WAY Dell will offer to upgrade your GPU for price they listed in config page. It will be helluva more expensive.

There are chances for you to get a R2 w/ 5870Ms or R3 etc... But you need to be really patient, "know something" and be lucky too.

 

Hahahaha, Yeah they will charge you an arm and a leg. If you want the 5870's with your new machine you'll have to be patient. Just like Silly is..... for a long... long... long, long time... I am still waiting 2 more weeks untill, I'll finaly order! With or without the 5870.

 

Yea, you'll be able to upgrade to the new system, provided you buy the new system...Dell is in the business of selling computers, not giving away upgrades. It's the same as the R1/R2. You can't buy the R1, and expect Dell to give you the R2 because you want it. The R2 came out a few weeks after I recieved my R1. Thats the reason I returned it. Now I'm just waiting for the 5870's. As far as the 5870 GPU's, be prepared to dish out over $1200 at the very minimum for a set. Since you bought a computer with 4870s, Dell won't just give you 5870s for an additional $400-$500. Which I'm guessing is going to be the cost of the set when the system is purchased. The lower end cards price will be factored into the base model price. So your really going to be paying more if you think about it.

 

Aww man, that sucks. I was planning on getting the M17x now because of the $300 off and the 8GB RAM upgrade(Singapore).

Is there a significant difference in performance in games between the 4870 xfire and the 5870 xfire?

 

other than Direct X 11 i say not enugh to warrant the hype.

 

Performance differance will be 15% - 20%

 

No there isn't but the benefit will be the lower power usage. Although so far they run hotter than the 4870s.

 

So I cancelled my replacement order and returned the sytem with the bad GPU for a refund. I guess I'll wait a little longer for the 5870s. I just hope those end of March rumors turn out to be true. Either way, the Iphone will be my best fried again for at least a month

 

From what I have read, the 5870 will be the last of the MXM 3.0b? Or what ever the current standard is?

If so, thats the last upgrade video card wise we can make in an R2 correct?

 

That's too bad, the 4870's get pretty crispy as it is... was hoping for a cooler rig with those. DX11 _IS_ nice but given how long it takes developers to adapt I am not too worried. In a year or two the price will come down to reasonable levels.

 

Still camping there, are we?
Soon it'll be over, m8!