New Alienwares 2016

Sorry if this is asked before but why 1080 isn't available yet ?

Sorry report because of slow internet

 

Hello, the 1080 will be available in November along with the alienware 13 .

 

Thanks for the info. I am thinking of upgrading. Using Alienware 17 (2013), thinking of getting Alienware 15

 

The 1080 won't be available in the Alienware 15. If you're after a 1080 it'll have the be the Alienware 17.

 

Woah, that's sad

 

How much of a difference 1080 will make ? I am using Alienware with 780M and still does all the gaming, plays GTA V pretty much on full settings.

 

It's not exactly surprising. The 1080 is a 180W GPU, and cooling that in a 15" chassis would make it a pretty chunky laptop.

The 1080 is about 20-30% faster than the 1070. It's not a huge gap. Personally I think if you've been using a 780m and not having any issues then a 1070 will be plenty.

 

1080 is for 4K and quad hd + gaming, it's really really too powerful for just 1080p gaming . The 1070 to be honest is also too powerful for 1080p ^^, so you're good to go with a 1070 it's really future proof !

As now manufacturers can choose the TDP (watt consumption of the gpu), Alienware went with 180W for the Nvidia 1080, this is INSANE and it's absolutely not made for 15" laptops .

To paint you a picture : many 15" laptops come with a 180W supply for everything not just the GPU ^^. the GL502VS with 1070 from asus is shipped in France with a 180W adapter (stupid choice)

 

Depends what refresh rate (ie for 120Hz I think you definitely want the 1070) and how long you want it to last (in a couple of years I wouldn't be surprised if the 1070 is only just making 60 fps at 1080p with max settings in AAA games).

 

The m17xR3/R4 and 17 R1 with 3D screens didn't support Optimus as well (well, unless you went down to 60 Hz), but they still had MUX switches.
As well, the battery life Alienware advertises is the best case scenario, so with G-Sync, it'll probably be less.

 

88 C ouch

 

Well Im amazed I didnt think it would be as **** cooling as reaching 88c even my aw17 with the worst card ever created 880m doesnt even reach 82c so I guess they still suck maybe even more than ever before and this is 1070 gtx so imagine what temps we will get with the 1080gtx .. very very disappointed

 

Agreed with all the hype around the new cooling design and we get this ridiculous.

 

Unfortunately the case with all 1070 laptops out there right now.

 

Have Aw 17R4 Echo with the more powerful GTX 1080, much better cooling? Because a max overclocked gtx 1080 will push more power. And also a max OC'd 6820BGA will use more power to feed a better graphics card.

 

Nobody here knows that at this point. Curious how the 1070 will perform in the AGA. I will test such a setup next weekend. Going to repaste my laptop with kryonaut too this weekend after using icd7.

 

Will you create and put in a mod heat spreader for PCH chips in the re-paste process? Dell use to have good heatsink, so Kryonaut should work well.

 

Wonder what a repaste would do for those temps, 5C as per usual?

CPU temp conspicuously absent...

 

Well, i guess the 1070 in AW has a higher tdp compared to other 1070 , after all the 1080 is 180W.

But yeah, they overhyped their cooling design OR they put toothpaste in place of proper thermal paste, because yeah, you pay 2000$ + but they need to scrap 0,5$ on the thermal paste it's THE most important part, why spend a lot in r&d for cooling if in the end you put toothpaste ?
And it doesn't look easy to to repaste you have to remove everything...

reconsidering my purchase maybe will switch to a P650RS-g

 

For me it was neck and neck between this and the MSI barebones being sold a few places, including Eurocom as the Tornado F5. But I like the screen choices I would have with the Dell. I am waiting a few more months so we will see, maybe by then people will have LCD swapped and done other various mods that will jury-rig the machine to my preferred spec at my preferred price point. But the styling of the Dell was better than the rest that's for sure.

Would like to see an actual owner repaste and post detailed temps.

 

My pch temps reached a max of 81c so i dont think that will be a problem especially when i only use the cpu.

 

And you are 100% sure that the 1070 in AW has a higher TDP Compared to all others 1070?
Their r&d for cooling is based on the thermal paste Dell already have deal on. Thermal paste are being bought in large quantities. Why use a special thermal paste for AW, when all other Dell computers can use the same ****? Cheaper to obtain in large quantities. Why should Dell use a <better> more expensive thermal paste only for their Aw machines? Money is money, Although there is only talk about a few cents

Edit. @rinneh I thought more about this, as you now going to re-paste.

 

will repaste mine IC7 FOR SURE because anyway will have to open it to add my SSDs and the manual is already online, but i ordered mine the minute it was online in France and they told me it was out of stock (I'm probably the first purchaser in FR/UK haha) and when i asked them via chat to give me more infos about why no stock they seemed totally lost...and didn't really care about my order .

I can't understand how it's out of stock, maybe U.S orders ? but they must have kept some barebones for Europe..
that was ridiculous, how can a product not released yet be out of stock ? backorder of course, I'd have understood that,...but (i think) they cancelled my order and told me it was out of stock...Oo

 

They gave the first batch to review sites maybe? Notebookcheck and others? I guess you never know, next few days might be telling if we see Euro reviews come online.

 

Not necessarily true. The Clevo and MSI laptops with 1070 don't even break 70 degrees. Please refer to and . It's possible the 17 R4 Umar was demonstrating was not post production and newer models will be cooler. If not, this might be a deal breaker for me.

 

Generally you should repaste anyway, because you can't be sure how the factory pasting was done. Use IC Diamond, GC Extreme or Kryonaut. Swap the Thermal Pads for good ones, at least Phobya 7w/mk, and tweak the fan tables.
If temps doesn't improve afterwards, you can throw your rig out of the windows due to crappy cooling solution.

My 2cents!

 

80+ is inacceptable....

 

........Never mind....

 

Agree

 

Don't you have to remove the motherboard, to repaste the GPU?

That's not exactly the type of operation I like to perform on a brand new laptop.

 

It becomes so when laptops have to be so thin It's like Apple machines. Almost impossible to clean inside and re-paste.

 

The new ones seem a Bit less complicated to dissamble. At least u dont have to remove the keyboard.

 

if any of u owns an alienware 17 with gtx 1070 confirm the temps reaching 88c ? we need someone guys alienware is taking so damn long to do a damn test and apparently when Umar done it is completely rubbish and I will never buy a laptop with a ****ty cooling that lets the gpu reaches 88c !!! and it doesnt even consume that high wattage my 880m consumes even more and I have way lower temps max is about 77c :/

 

Waiting for spring and for Kaby Lake.

 

Errrm I only saw reviews of that model like this one where the temps are higher http://www.notebookcheck.net/Nexoc-G734III-Clevo-P670RS-G-Notebook-Review.174030.0.html

Not sure if That benchmark is stressing the CPU and thus preventing the system from heating up.

The MSI, cannot comment about that since it might be standing on a laptop cooler for example.

But in this review the MSI titan has a GPU temp of 75C under load http://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-GT73VR-6RE-Titan-Notebook-Review.172916.0.html

The best cooled 1070 I came across is actually an Acer.....

So yeah lets await the reviews with the exact same test to see how it performs.

Because it is not only about wattage. The Pascal is a much smaller chip thus harder to cool. By the way all reference desktop Nvidia cards run between 80 and 85c.

 

So I talked to Umar about this , he is an alienware presenter and he is the guy who did the overwatch video , he said this could be an earlier pilot but even so this laptop isnt what I was looking for at all these temps r just too high my current aw17 would serve me much better than this one , I just wish this all would be a lie coz I was waiting for 3 years for something like this now not so much

 

Ok Umar told me something very weird he said that he did Furmark and Prime95 test burn-in and he only got the gpu to 84c while overwatch got to 88c ? Yep thats the weird part anyway he requested a new unit to do a real test this time so lets hope we r wrong

 

Furmark will trigger the OCP on hardware/driver, it has never been a good idea to run Furmark ever since the GTX480 days.

 

If u have a better idea plz say so before the new unit arrives so I can request him to do ur idea instead of Furmark and Prime95

 

GTX 1080 power draw (desktop)
Warframe 4K (or 4K DSR) with Ultra quality - can be done in the training mission (275w)
3DMark Firestrike Ultra stress test (260w)

Odd game Warframe is, I never thought I'd see my GPU drawing that much power from a F2P game (it doesn't look very good either).

For loading the CPU I would recommend OCCT. Setting use CPU:OCCT, Infinite, 64 bits, and Large data set.

 

Damn, with that much heating really is the deal breaker for me.
I will wait for mor review though.
Maybe looking for the refub 980m plus the GA when needed is the way now.

 

Now private ? Back to the drawing board. lol

 

I really cant believe that they are so hard cheating by telling us they got a new cooling Solution etc.
I was/am a big Fan of alienware... i ordered the 15 because i thought it will be much cooler than the prev. Gen. Pretty disapointing to See that its even worse .
I will Test the new 15 if it arrives and return it if they really lied about the cooling

 

They are going to do it again with grizzly conductonaut, a cooling pad, an undervolt and with a more throttlish vBios

 

Not surprised.

Alienware is not Alienware anymore, it's just Dell. They took a niche, enthusiast-grade product that dominated the market, and destroyed it by turning it into a streamlined, disposable, mass-produced product.

Hopefully, one day, someone at Alienware will wake up. There's still time.

 

Believe me if they bragged so much about a cooling system that is just mediocre in the end they will have to wake up really fast .

 

A series of videos on AW17 have been uploaded Chinese language with all the benchmarks and temps.
Check here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBpW5En0FXjAmh0Drk_sZWQ

 

If I'm seeing this right that's 60C gpu under furmark, 90C cpu with aida? Kinda hard to see on my phone screen.

 

Thanks for this link.

Watch the disassembly of the laptop and damn I have to say. It's one well designed chassis from a technical standpoint. No space has been wasted. Very nice to see as a designer.

The temps seem to be very reasonable too during real life usage. I see him playing The Division which is quite a heavy game and the temps hover around 68~70c. Very good.

Cant wait to get my hands on one of these units.

 

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Well designed to overheat and Throttle? Or did you just ignore what everyone was just talking about?