New Alienwares 2016

It is not 600p. I am Chinese. The youtuber searched for 600p because there were someone watching the live asked him whether 600p is a good ssd

 

The RAM is Hynix, SSD is PCIE liteon, If my memory is still correct. I asked that youtuber myself in a Chinese forum.

 

What Will happen If I already got a 5% discount from a seller? I can get 10% or around 15%?

 

Is this available in the US? I'm having trouble finding it.

 

What about warranty in Europe if you open up the laptop? I seem to recall that the US have different rules here.


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here: http://www.eurocom.com/ec/configure(2,384,0)ec

 

Getting the laptop without SSD and with minimum RAM would be a good idea. Like many pointed out, you can get a 32 GB RAM low latency +2400 MHz set on Newegg or Amazon for between $140 and $200 while the unknown Alienware ones are $300. Also with the price that Alienware is charging ($600) for their 1TB SSD, you can get the new 1TB Samsung 960 Pro that is coming out or a cheaper lower performance PCIe M.2 SSD. Upgrading to the killer 1535 card might also be a good idea since the price difference is not too high.

Both the A15 and A17 have two PCIe M.2 slots. but they only give you the "m.2 heatsink/cover plate" if you buy the 1TB SSD from them (Wonder if you can get it from somewhere else).

A 15" laptop with 4K monitor, is really good (Have the Inspiron 15 7000 with 4K). The 200% DPI on Windows makes everything crisp and better looking and you can read smaller font sizes. But you won't see much benefits for gaming. Also the 4K one I has screen tearing for some softwares. The other issue is that you have to log out and log in to your computer when switching between an external monitor and laptop monitor due to the 200% DPI. I would only recommend it to people who will actually only use the laptop monitor or have an external monitor set with the same DPI scaling as the laptop monitor.

One thing I can't seem to find is whether the screens are touchscreens or not.

Update: Looks like the RAM they are giving is a SK Hynix

 

There are always exceptions. I'll find out in about 2 weeks, let hope for the best.
I can always return it if it doesn't suit my requirements.

 

I think I just found a replacement for my desktop... Thank you!

How is Eurocom's reputation around here?

 

Well, at least in Sweden they offer the possibility with one 16 GB 2667

 

It'll be interesting to see which brand of RAM they use for 2667 MHz (or 2666MHz). I only see Corsair, Patriot, and G.Skill having such RAM (well, on Newegg, Amazon, and pcpartpicker).
As for 2400 MHz, it's likely either from Crucial or Kingston.
EDIT: Disregard. They're probably Hynix as stated earlier. They have 2666 MHz RAM.

 

These ones?

http://www.liteonssd.com/product/PCIE-SSD/item/EP1-SERIES/EP1-SERIES.html

 

It's probably the CX2, since the one you linked has the 960 GB SSD as a M.2 22110, whereas all of the CX2 SSDs are M.2 2280.

 

If any. Frankly Dell wont allow you to book HK cpu and 1080 with small memory and/or small ssd. You have to overpay them for 16gb and 256tb ssd. Also in some point 4K screen became mandatory if I remeber corectly. Thats suck.

 

How do we know that? Not saying that you are wrong though.

 

http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/alienware-15-laptop/dkcwf03ha

Don't think they will keep this option for long though. They don't have an option like this for the AW17 though.

 

Are you both talking about the 1070 and not the 1080? At least thats what I see on that link.


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1070 though. 1080 is not yet available. I was talking about top gpu and cpu

 

M.22110 is an uncommon form factor (first time hearing it for me, at least), and if Alienware designs their M.2 slots around that, it limits what users can upgrade to (as well as what options Alienware has going forward). I highly doubt Alienware would put screw holes for every length of M.2 in the M.2 slots in their laptops.
If Alienware offers a family of SSDs that covers from 128 GB to 1 TB, they would need a uniform form factor. Since we have been told the SSD comes from LiteOn, then the CX2 is a good candidate. M.2 2280 is a common form factor, isn't too long, and it something commonly seen in Dell's laptops that use SATA or PCIe M.2 SSDs.
As I said, it's probably the CX2. The possibility of the SSD being some other model exists, so even I'm not certain.

 

On the AW15, 1070 is the top model.


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I know, thanks. The point was with top cpu/gpu no chance to book weak ram/ssd. At least I saw that picture in Precision line up etc. AW as well.

 

Not really true. The website section has options that limit you like you say; but if you contact sales directly via phone or chat, you can get almost any configuration if your adimant that it is the only config that you will buy. Also get about $100-$200 off if you stick to a price you are willing to pay (within reason).

 

Thanks pal. Thats nice head up.

 

No sure. He Just said Liteon.

 

Know any dell rep you would suggest that can help with that? Looking into the AW15 and any help would be great.

 

When I went into dell chat, sales agent was (TIP_Roxin M).

However the final email came from: [email protected]

I managed to get the Alienware 13 OLED with the GTX 965m for $1736 after tax with 1 year accidental damage and premium service (a $1947 after tax list price if I bought direct from website)

 

Anyone knows how to price match with Dell.de? I placed order with 5% diacount, but it is 10% discount today.

 

Do any of you know if Alienware stack there discount? As I have a 15% code and then the 10% offer on there website? Also will the 120hz TN be available this month?

 

Sometimes they stack, sometimes they don't. Either read all that fine print; or the simple way is to "add to cart" and apply the codes in checkout (you do not have to purchase to see discounts in shopping cart). You apply the codes before any billing info is entered, so there is no risk of accidentally buying.

 

How come the new 17" is so much heavier than the old one? 3.7 KG vs 4.4 is A LOT of difference.

 

A ton more metal for the new construction and cooling system.

Heavy is good. Will the new cooling system be able to do its job is the question...

So far the AW1070 is keeping cool around low to mid 60's, which is pretty good.

How about the GTX 1080? That's the magic question...


::iunlock::

 

I'm guessing that the reason might be the 1080 and that the 17" is dimensioned for that.

 

Shame they didnt wish to insert 4 dimm slots in there.

 

Eurocom or CyberpowerPC

 

Will there be a 120 Hz 4k option ever for the 15?

If not which will be the better screen option? 120 Hz TN or 4k IPS?

I can't seem to configure the FHD 120 Hz option now for the 15 anyway, anyone know why?

 

Probably not. They're only just starting to have high refresh rate 4K screens in desktops, so I don't think you're likely to see them in laptops for at least a couple of years.

Best for what? For gaming, the 120Hz screen will be better. For photo/video/design, the 4K screen will be better. For office work, it doesn't make much difference, but probably may as well go for the 4K screen.

It's not available yet. Should be available in a couple of weeks (last ETA was mid October, although they previously have said November).

 

OK thanks the online chat rep was like "all the FHD screens are 120! They start at 60 and go up to 120!" totally not helpful

I know the 60 hz 4k is only 60 hz but does it have G Sync capability?

I'll be doing a mix of gaming and also office work type stuff and watching TV etc. No photo/video/design stuff. Trying to decide on the screen at this point

 

http://www.eurocom.com/ec/configure(2,384,0)ec

Good.

That looks like a excellent option in 15-inch with 6700K and 1070. And, the price is very good.

 

Yeah, typical sales rep situation. They really don't know enough about computers in general to be answering technical questions.

No, only the 120Hz 1080p panel has G-Sync.

Sounds similar to me. Personally I'm waiting for the 120Hz G-Sync panel.

 

Sager is the only brand that offers 4K gsync, i wish alienware did too.

If you play alot of shooters the 120hz screen would be worth it. But if thats not really your thing the 4K 60hz would probably be the best option. If you cant get high enough frames in 4K you can always drop it down to 1080p when your gaming.

 

Have the new AW "Echo" models finally got fan Control app in ACC software as other brands use, or are you still forced to use 3rd party software such as Hwinfo for manuel controlling of the fans? Or can you force max fan speed with a key macro?

 

Should get mine next friday, but won't really trust their estimated shipping date ^^. Let's say it should be shipped next week if there's no bad news (again) like : "sorry no more 15 barebones".

Will just install my ssd in place of the hdd. Will test thoroughly temps and battery level in gaming .

 

Just recently found out that the Clevo's 17", 1080p/120Hz screen is indeed an IPS. Now I'm jealous.

 

MSI too.

 

DP 1.4 needed to implement 4K@120hz

 

Well dont be, the AUO Clevo FHD is actually AVA (a variant of IPS) and when it was tested, even though it said it was 5ms, it showed to be around 22 to 25ms response time.

Resellers have even removed the "5ms" from the descriptions of the FHD panel. The only panel that will do 4 or 5ms is the QHD TN-EVA panel out there in the wild.
It has been discussed time and time again 120hz is very pointless if the panel has a high response time as the pixels will be ghosting too much to gain much benefit from the 120hz.
You need about 8ms or less to get benefit from 120hz. However Gsync can be beneficial on these panels as it would allow no tearing with low input lag.

 

I agree with you for the most part. I wouldn't say it's pointless for everything, but for gaming, yes. Anything above 5ms is unacceptable, imo. My 144Hz display is 1ms and it's amazing for gaming. Honestly, I didn't think you could tell but you can! Response time is not a gimmick... G-SYNC, well, maybe a little.

 

It sounds like people are misunderstanding the listed response time to what people actually see as lag.
The response time quoted is usually just a G2G test, this means a 1ms or 8ms in real life use will never have this low level of display lag. As a result, you can even get IPS 8ms G2G monitors with less lag than a poor 1ms G2G tn monitor.

http://www.displaylag.com/exposed-input-lag-vs-response-time/

Generally yes, tn will usually have the lowest overall lag, but IPS have made many stride and I would not dismiss a good IPS 120hz monitor.

 

So far 86C in stress test doesnt look optimistic. Thats in relatively thick msi gt73vr.

 

Hey there, as alienware has 10% off in my country i have the option to click a AW 17 / 6700HQ / 8GB RAM (lol) / 1070 8GB and some stuff alike tobii.

As i still have a 512GB m2 2280 stick and a 512GB 2,5inch SSD left, i just have to put in additional 2 x 16GB memory modules and am hopefully fine.

Do you think it makes sense to go with Alienware, as i´m little disappointed how MSI handled the "upgrade things" at the GT72 in the past. Else i´ve loved the machine (quality and noise) but their pricetags are pretty uncool (GT73VR).

As an alternative to the Alienware 17 there´s a CLEVO barebone for same price (without tobii) which is also pretty interesting, but i guess in focus of quality Alienware is the better choice for long time experience, so overall build quality and material and stuff, which is important to me.

Point is, both got same pricetag.

Regards,
aVa