New Alienwares 2016

Whats wron gwith the 1070? and Win10 is fine. I sitll dont get the controversy except for forced automatic updates.

You get a well crafted machine with a lot of the quality in its chassis. Not just mere numbers on a specsheet.

By the way you can choose the other Killer card for free in the configurator.

ANyway in the Netherlands I would pay around 2600 including added SSD's.

 

8 dont know where are you looking for prices..but i see this...

Thats far away from your picture...

 

Yeah, the prices depends on valuta and how expensive the country is.
Win X Home = No thanks

And what with a fully maxed AW17R4 and 1070 = $5500
Of course I wouldn't buying a maxed machine. But here is the price AW17R4 with 1070


What will a maxed machine with 1080 cost?

 

Free healthcare and education is worth the trade-off

 

Hopefully all those taxes ar eput to good use there

 

I don't see this money The Government love to use other people's money

 

Come on papusan...go play with your plastic nerdbook and stop trolling. Everyone knows that Dells Upgrade costs are just silly. Everyone buys those things aftermarket. So just stop trolling pls...

You can get an r4 with uhd and 1070 + ssds under 3000 euro...

I read only unfair comparisons from you... maxed out r4 to expensive? Look at the price from an maxed out mysn u727....7000euro!

 

The same 17 here only costs 2249.1 euro (including a 10% discount which you most of the time get with dell without too much hassle).

I don't like bga laptops either but I there isn't that much choice nowadays but c'mon give aw a break here since their prices are on par with those of a plastic MSI. I agreed that for the real enthousiast AW isn't a choice anymore ( and in my opinion only the Clevo p870 is, but that thing is more of a m18x r2 succesor and not really a 'laptop' ) but aside from that the price vs build quality isn't that bad.

Anyways I don't really care about new prices since I always buy my machines second hand anyway. Aside from the MSI GT72 that I have atm but that thing was dirt cheap, although it will be replaced by a 15 r2 that I bought a couple of days ago. I bought the MSI in the hope I could upgrade it...... well we all know how that went so I'm done and will return to the pc market again and use the 15 as a portable machine for alround work and some gaming.

I just wish there was a well build machine like the M17x r3/r4 and M18x r1/r2 on the market today, that would have made things so much easier.

 

I know we can have a discount. Most resellers can do that. But I can get a much better deal with Multicom vs Dell. I don't remember, but I think I got $ 1200/1300 discount on the machine in my sig.

 

Damn, I think here the situation is the opposite, the clevo is quite expensive in the netherlands with a 1080 sli and a 6700k the base price is 4328 euro.

 

Yeah. I heard @rinneh said the same. But I purchase what I like. If I haven't the money... I will save up for a new machine and not buying something I don't want because of the lower price.

 

Yeah I never liked the prices here. I already consider the prices here quite high compared to the US even when adding up the taxes afterwards in the US.

But I do like the AW machines. Especially now since I use the AGA. The machine is running so quiet and cool now while still having the horsepower to driver a 1440P 144hz monitor.

 

Do you need to pay taxes(20/27%)on top to the Government, if you buying from another country in EU? If resellers from the other EU country can offer a better price?

 

If I buy from other countries in the EU than I dont need to pay extra tax. From the US is about 30% extra in total. But the nearest neighbors in Germany (XMG) is still really expensive.

 

People in U.S have everything it seems. A lot of shops and nice prices. Norway is ok on prices for the whole laptop models if you see our wages. But spare parts and standalone hardware like processors, graphics, high end ssd's and so on, is damn expensive. Better for me to buy the whole machine home with expensive parts. Than shopping different parts on web stores (in other countries). You can probably shop down priced hardware in the whole EU without paying extra taxes.

 

Calm down both of you ^^, or once again a moderator will have to come and clean up the mess.
".go play with your plastic nerdbook and stop trolling" : that sentence @captn.ko is more trolling than everything papusan has written.

@Papusan, the AW17 costs way less than what you showed the P870 with sli 1080 costs more than 1000Euros more.


Just calm down, it's a forum for cultivated people that share a passion for performance and computer science in general, and that inludes both of you i'm sure. Don't start another BGA vs not BGA war

Try pcspecialist way cheaper, UK is still in the EU

 

Totally forgot about PCspecialist. A nice choice now with the pound>euro ratio.

The pricing there is indeed not bad.

 

Will they be able to announce before Single's Day (11/11, China), reported to be the largest online shopping day worldwide? (I guess many stores promote sales to encourage singles to spend on themselves?) Digitimes reports that Clevo factories are producing at full capacity preparing their clients (resellers) for the event, so all gaming notebook industry brands, including Alienware and GeForce and Radeon, might well be focusing current production on the same deadline.

 

I think Dell will release the AW13 at the end of this month, at least thats what they said before (~4 weeks after the AW15+17). But i doubt you can actually buy it before 11/11, only pre order.

 

mostly useless upgrade. Average "user" software doesnt use benefits from these nvme drives. Except you use some very specific workstation or server workloads. So overpaying for 950/960pro and even putting them into RAID0 has no sense at all.

 

I dont like those SSD's anyway, they get really hot compared to other SSD's.

 

The best store for Clevo in the Netherlands is laptopplus.nl
How ever it is even cheap If you buy from HIDEVOLUTION and let them ship it to NL.

 

go laptopplus.nl, or HIDEVOLUTION in US Will save you a lot of euros

 

yup out of business... lol j/k

there are still options right now. But they're more then likely pointing at asking me for a price on a laptop instead of a videocard... I got laptops that can use the newer cards, and for great price, and you can configure them as you like, or buy them barebones (don't know why anyone would do this with me, mind you, since I get parts cheaper then them most assuredly - but still an option.).

 

I've been considering getting one of the alienwares (looking at the 13) just waiting to see whats gonna be offered atm. They planning on launching the AW13 with kaby lake and replacing the current versions with Kaby Lake later on if anyone knows?

@woodzstack Might as well ask its a slight derail since your mentioning new laptops but that sky x9e2 is that gonna get Kaby Lake as well when it releases? Also wondering on upgradability of the GPU's on that model as well and if theres any plans for a 18inch model in the future. Lastly as well I noticed theres a 120hz QHD option now but will there be a 120hz UHD (4k) option down the road as well?

 

Has anyone heard anything on where to buy the m.2 covers?

 

This was discussed just a couple of pages ago, but basically the Kaby Lake quad cores won't be available until Jan, so the AW13 will be launching with Skylake. I suppose it's possible it launches with Kaby Lake dual core options, with Skylake quad core as an option, but personally I doubt it.

All models will be updated with Kaby Lake at some point. No confirmation on when.

No, 120Hz 4K will not be an option for multiple reasons. For one, they're still not available in desktops let alone laptops, and two, it requires DisplayPort 1.3 which hasn't been adopted by anyone yet, or a new spec of HDMI which hasn't even been finalised. FWIW, the Alienware laptops only have DisplayPort 1.2.

 

Im kind of pissed i didnt order the laptop last week before these new screens came out. I just wanted to see how much the 120hz screen were going to cost. I had a config with 15", i7 6820k 1070, 8GB of ram, 1TB hdd, 99WH battery, and a 1080p 60hz screen for just under 2K. I was just going to spend an extra $250 and put 16GB of ram and a 512GB SSD in myself later on. Now i have to spend $350 more to get the same thing with a 4K screen i didnt really want. Ive talked to two people in dell support and they have both told me the 6820k is only going to be in the highest model for now on. So it looks like im **** out of luck now.

 

Hidevolution was unfortunately very expensive when I checked due to taxes. But for now I am good anyway with my laptop. Will probably change to the AW15R3 in time.

 

They can help u with tax with a fee of 8%.

 

I ordered P650rsg. Now I cancelled and ordered 15r3.

 

Like these?

https://modmymods.com/alphacool-hdx-m-2-ssd-m01-80mm-black-11310.html

 

Probably too thick for laptop internals.

 

Does anyone know if the new alienwares come with the pm951 ssd's (like the previous gen alienwares) or has dell shifted to the sm951 or pm961 ?

 

Photos of the AW 13 if anyone is interested:

 

The 120Hz G-Sync panels have just started becoming available in Australia (although the configuration tool is kind of broken at the moment), but we're also seeing a situation where the 6820HK is not available with the 120Hz G-Sync panels. I was just thinking about it, and I think I may have an explanation for why the 120Hz panel can only be configured with the 6700HQ. For ages we've been told that the laptops support Optimus, but the 120Hz G-Sync panels do not. This left the question of 'how do you have panels connected to the dedicated GPU for G-Sync, yet have Optimus support only for non-G-Sync panels'. I think the answer is that there's a different motherboard being used depending on which panel you're choosing. The G-Sync motherboards have the display connector connected directly to the GPU, whereas the non-G-Sync motherboards have it connected to the integrated graphics. This does still leave the question of 'what exactly does Fn+F7 do if it's not a mux switch?' I think the answer is that it's purely a driver setting; it locks Optimus into dedicated GPU mode only, but it's still running via the integrated graphics frame buffer.

Thoughts?

FWIW, if this is true then I'll be rather disappointed. The config I was looking for was the 6820HK, 1070 and 120Hz panel. Now I'll have to choose between 6820HK or the 120Hz + G-Sync (for which the panel will probably win out).

 

Reason for G-Sync in 1 config in the 15 R3 and 17 R4 given in the AMA: offered in one configuration for the time being to get them out there, as I assumed earlier. G-Sync will be available in more configurations later on.
Nothing complicated or anything. This isn't the first time Alienware has done this, and from the looks of it, it also won't be the last.

 

Any news about the 13 in the AMA?

 

13 comes out November 1st. GTX 1080 for 17 R4 at the latest November 17th.
I'll just link the AMA. Starts from 16:00 and ends at 1:26:35.

 

Thanks.

 

Hmm, ok, thanks. Part of the reason why I thought it was done this way was that in the Australian configuration tool you actually have to choose a different CPU in order for the screen to be changed, hence why I thought perhaps it's a different motherboard, which would also explain the difference in Optimus support for G-Sync/non-G-Sync.

Edit: thinking about it, this still doesn't rule out the possibility that it's motherboard related. Ie, it could be they've only built the G-Sync motherboards with the 6700HQ for now, but will add 6820HK support some time down the track. Also would still explain the lack of Optimus support for 120Hz panels (at least, from what we've been told so far), yet support for other panels (ie, one is connected to GPU, the other is not).

 

I am in the same boat. I was about to buy it with the exact same configuration you have but they changed the configs and I couldn't get it. Now I am **** out of luck with this because the the new configs are more expensive. I even chatted with multiple Dell reps and they are not willing to accept an order that was there in their site less than 6 hours ago.

Another annoying problem is that I already ordered 32gb rams separately.

Btw "save100" gives you $100 off of the cost. Not much but might help.

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I dealt with the same thing. I contacted dell about 12 hours after they changed them and they werent willing to put in my order either for the older config. Im not sure what im doing now. I planned on using the money i saved for the warranty which would have brought it up to like $2600 total including buying the ram and SSD myself. But now with the new config + warrenty im looking at $3100 which is way over my initial budget of $2500.

Only way im going to be able to buy it now is if i come across a 10% off coupon and manage to convince dell over the phone to knock $300 off the base price, which i dont see happening anytime soon.

 

Well what sucks is that I am ready to buy whenever they are ready to sell it to me...

I do find it a joke that the gsync panel is supposed to be the big feature on this thing. The product is a gaming laptop yet when the gaming screen comes out they do not offer it on the highest quality CPU to start with, WTF. I mean logically anyone who is serious about gaming to want the gsync panel for those needs is going to want the version that has the fastest CPU and GPU, not the second fastest.

No not that, but thank you for sharing as that looks really cool! What I am looking for is the metal shield that is part of the actual laptop that goes over the m.2 slots.
Also on that product you listed, does the thermal pad mess up the sticker in any way? This looks like a great solution to add a little cooling to those Samsungs without making the warranty void by avoiding the removal or damage to the sticker.

 

Dell have probably saved lots of the 17" 120Hz panels for the upcoming 1080 setup. I can understand their decision for this, if DELLIENWARE do it this way.

 

Becoming a dell advantage account seams to cut 10%. But I was only able to add it once. Can't seem to get it to work now.


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I think some people forget that the gaming experience is the same ( for the most part) across portable gaming platforms with Pascal and like you've said, having just numbers on paper won't make that gaming experience necessarily any better.

Ex. I game at 1440p with Maxed Settings. Whether I play my games on a 775 or AW with the same GPU, it's not going to make a difference. One thing that I know for sure is that gaming on anything other than the 775 will be heck of a lot quieter and more enjoyable db wise, although I don't mind the fan noise, but most people would be disturbed.

 

If that was the case they would only be limiting the 17" options not the 15".

 

Still trying to decide between the 4K IPS panel vs the 120 HZ TN panel.

There will be some gaming but nothing crazy competitive and I'd prob run the games at 1080p regardless. I was set to go with the g-sync panel but I worry about the TN panel colors and viewing angle. Are they better than they used to be? How are the dell TN panels?

 

Have you tried gaming at 1440p? Although I currently have 4k screens my resolution of choice is 1440p. With the new UHD or QHD monitors, there's really no need to still be gaming at 1080p, but that's just my opinion.

As for which monitor to get I would opt for the QHD as that TN panel is not a traditional panel, but a newer one that addresses the "tradional" downfalls of regular TN's.

Either way you can't go wrong.

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