New Alienwares 2016

I just removed 10°C !

This was the problem :



WTF, this is horrible, only stock clevo paste is as bad as that in my own experience.



Here you go :

GPU - 4°C
CPU -10°C and delta (warmest core, coldest core) : -3°C

before repaste :


after :



thanks @iunlock for the tips.

After analysing the barebone and the cooling system I would like to underline one fact :
This is the best pascal barebone available, the belly of the beast is an art piece ! I'm really happy with this laptop and before the repaste it was absolutely good @ gaming especially the nvidia GPU, the CPU ran a little hot but 6 to 10°C below throttle point after 2 or 3 hours of dx12 ultra gaming.

Bravo Alienware for this laptop, beside a bad factory thermal paste, it's near perfect ! Please if you ever read this, consider upgrading the thermal paste to more premium compound, i think 6/7 W/mk and good surface distribution would really decrease return rate and improve the quality of your laptop, you pay millions in r&d for cooling, don't waste your effort on saving 0,4$ on thermal paste.

I had to actually run 3dmark and wait for 5 minutes for the fans to quick in ! I was worried I didn't plug them correctly haha ^^ !

 

Which paste did you apply?


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IC diamond 7. I which I had gelid but I finished it a while ago when I repasted my dell xps.

 

so enthusiastic to buy one. but how can we congratulate alienware when there a some light bleeding issu... it's like to have a ferrari engine into a top budget car...
I saw that you have 1080p AW15 how is the light bleeding and can you take a picture of your AW15 panel? How it's feel ? And how feel the aw17 panel ?

 

Minor lightbleed are everywhere except my xps 13, I won't be too harsh on AW, this for me is nothing, not a real issue, regarding the 4K screen it's another story, but I don't have it.

 

That's disappointing but thanks for the update. I had replied on your post on twitter to Umar.

Looks like I will be ordering a 15 in the next few days


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IC Diamond is better than Gelid anyhow. I've used both and the cooling is almost exactly the same, but IC Diamond is more durable. The kind of overclocking I do on my CPUs very swiftly identifies any weakness or durability problems, and Gelid has never held up well for me on overclocked CPU. It has done OK for me on GPUs though. I quit using it because the last time I had it on my GPUs it dried up and turned to a crumbly, dusty powder after around 9 months.

 

Edit: What about Grizzly Kryonaut? Do you have experience with this paste and does it hold up against IC Diamond and Gelid?

Btw, I just encountered your youtube channel while searching for Liquid Metal info, very educational.


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Won in the silicon lottery? Have you seen any benchmarks tested with minimum 4.3-4.5 GHz on all 4 cores? It is only then you can talk about winning the BGA i7 lottery

 

Say what you want, the numbers are real.
What would be the point of fabricating numbers? What would he gain? Some kudos based on lies? Really? "Ain't nobody got time for that!"
From Clevo to Alienware unlock is one of the least biased reviewer. No fan boy stuff going on here, just raw data.

-Team RA

 

What do you mean by “offically debunked”? U meant the serial cooling design?

 

Still waiting for accurate temps?

Here are some for you fresh off the "voodoo press." (Choose your words carefully or it'll haunt you.)

You said: "30C temp drops are just not possible?" - That is comedic...

...and interesting because my (Stock Paste) +90C's running OCCT slightly OC'ed vs my (Repasted) x40 OC'ed at stock voltages ~60C's sure do equal ~30C's drop in temps.

If that wasn't funny enough, you said, ". ..repaste might get you from 98C down to 90C at the max end of things ..." - Are you serious? 8C? Do you realize how many people are laughing at you right now? Seriously.... mind you that you've LMFAO right before making that comment so once again....choose your words carefully because you've just eaten your words alive. LMFAO.

Are you even familiar with stock thermal paste? Do you even know what liquid metal is?

Because the surprise and your doubt of not understanding what is possible does not add up to someone who would even have the credibility to talk on this subject, especially not knowing the power of liquid metal magic..

What's worse is that you've added such ignorance with lame and untrue remarks, which just makes it a double whammy right there...

I still can't believe that you claim that a repaste is going to get you only 8C drop in temps?! LMFAO ROFL... <--- Very NOOB. You have lots to learn there...

So...Mr. Yo ....here you Go.... SMH

2 Hour OCCT Run - OC'ed to 40x on all four cores on STOCK voltage.

Average Temps: High 50's - Low 60's .....mmmm yea.... do I hear crickets?


Tip: Go learn what liquid metal magic is and maybe it'll shy you away from getting consumed by your voodoo.

 

Grizzly Kryonaut will do equally fine, if your heatsink isn't warped.

 

I still can't believe some people sometimes. The real question is, how can one take someone who thinks that only an 8C drop in temps is the most that one can get from a repaste? SMH...

Anyhow on a more positive note, I've finished my round of stock data and now am in the process of OC'ing and getting into the fun stuff. As you can see from the 2 Hour OCCT run at 40x w/ stock voltage, things are looking great.

It's too early to tell if this cpu is a silicon lottery winner, but I'll get into the OC'ing beyond 40x after finishing up the data collecting at this level...

Cheers

Debunked as in all those who claim that the new AW cooling system is a gimmick. As time passes (at least for the 17R4) with more and more data being gathered, it's nailing the coffin shut even more to the nay sayers....

That's what I had meant.

 

Still waiting to see if you have a brain or not.

Actually, if you want to try liquid metal magic temp drop, get one and swallow the tube. Your body temp will drop from 37c to room temperature really fast.


Actually it comes with a fine point needle, if you want to inject it into your body instead of swallowing it, it's possible.

 

Nice temp drop from stock paste But with a modest 4.0 GHz clock speed, I think you should up cashe ratio at the same level as cores. I look forward to Wprime and Cinebench

 

Thanks.
One more question concerning the paste application.
Thermal Grizzly includes a spatula.Should I use it or is it better to use the line method?

 

Use it. It's easier with that!

 

Takk. I'm working my way up there....have a long laundry list of things to do before getting to the good stuff So far I've got 40x running very solid through varies benches .... just finished up a 3 Hour OCCT run and temps didn't move at all. Pretty impressed with that. Can't wait to get to the fun stuff with some major OC'ing and Benching... Lots to come...

 

With the bare CPU die it's best to just spread it. Put a nice an generous layer on there and you'll be good to go.

 

I'd still use the line method, it wastes less paste.

Squishing the paste with heatsink works really well.

 

Or that ....the truth is...it's really hard to mess it up as the surface area is so small so there's I guess....a little more room for error than norm...either way can't go wrong...it'll get the job done.

 

Thanks. Covering the whole surface seems a bit old skool.
I used a similar method(credit card) with my first OCed desktop(over a hundred years ago) until I found out that pea/line methods are(or can be) more effective.

 

It depends. If your die is rectangular, the line method will do fine as @Mobius 1 suggested. If you have a IHS to paste, you will be thankful for a spatula or use the cross method.

If you want the job properly done, use the spatula and cover the die and the heatsink as well! Shouldn't hurt!

 

Doesn't matter even if you have ihs

 

This is like butter on bacon. Perhaps have paste on top of hot pipes as well? Or use the whole syringe of paste

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-overclockers-lounge.788975/page-104#post-10231803


But the X-cross method is preffered for traditional thermal paste

 

Nope, I just use this method which is preferred when pasting with a conductive paste like CLU. Use a thin layer on the die AND the heatsink and you're good to go. Worked like a charm for me!

 

I vote "Pea" / "dot" method.

 

Edit: if using a spatula, which I did.

 

Here is a nice little Cinebench R15 run at 40x/40x:

Max Temps are Excellent. Low to Mid 50's and GPU at 39C.

Ambient Temp: ~21.5C

Liquid Metal Magic...



Running some wPrime now...

Update:

A casual run...

CPU - High 50's and Low 60's...

 

for ICdiamond the recommended method is pea method if that can help

 

You know what I meant
For those who use standard thermal paste https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Thermal-Paste-Application-Techniques-170/

 

Ha ha, that's old skool!

Jokes aside! I am with you using the cross method is best for IHS, even for smaller quadratic dies. But there was specifically mentioned the spatula which comes with the Kryonaut TIM. And with that there's nothing wrong using it by applying a THIN layer on the die AND the heatsink, which is ez pz when using the spatula

As I mentioned before: worked like a charm!

 

If you let inexperienced people apply paste on both with the spatula, I can almost guarantee that they will apply all too much paste

 

As well as too big wurstels, pea peas and criss crosses!

 

It will probably still be better than stock (tooth)paste

 

I wonder how high you can overclock them safely with the new cooling hardware.

Also how much thermal paste is needed to cover the components of the AW 15/17?


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It's all good, mate ...

Pretty much all gaming laptops being reviewed currently see CPU stress temps in the 80's or 90's generally ... it's just sort of the norm ... so CPU highs in the 50's and 60's really do seem too good to be true.

That said? No offense meant at all by my comments and man I do hope others replicate your numbers because I'll be buying a AW17 for sure if that's the case (probably buy one anyway as I love the materials/build) ...

(great paste guide, btw...)

How is the 1440p screen, btw? (if you got the 1440p) ....

 

I posted my results also in the repasting Thread. Got nearly the same temps like iunlock...

 

My premature Doubting Thomas impersonation not withstanding ... ;-) ... these are simply astonishing results on both parts ... very exciting indeed. The Liquid Metal freaks me a bit (I happen to have an unopened tube laying around) and might go with something non conductive (happy with load temps < 80C) ...

And looking at some of iUnlock's photos re affirms just how gorgeous of a machine they built out of that new 17 ...

Trying not to order one right now ... LOL ...

 

For simply gaming enjoyment what would you recommend, AW17R4 with 6700hq + 120Hz or 6820 + 4K?

 

Just heard something interesting. When someone in China complain to Customer Care about the latency of his laptop, he got a reply that every new AW is taken back to the factory for repasting due to the thermal problem.

 

This is actually bad news... They are just going to use the same garbage silly putty paste, using the same method (just less). Big tech companies don't get it at all; lets hope they don't think "more is better" wouldn't surprise me.

In summary; they are just delaying shipments and every real enthusiast will be repasting with a good paste anyway.

 

Absolutely. So we can enjoy temps like these

CPU OC'ed to 4.0GHz and also 40x on the Cache. True 4.0GHz OC ...

Look at the current temps, max and also average. It's just crazy...

 

So im planning to buy the aw17 with the gtx 1080 when it comes out and with the 1440 display , i think im gonna buy the rams and sshd and ssd for the laptop from amazon on black friday but the laptop itself i will buy it from hidevolution so what do u guys recommend IC DIAMOND or LIQUID METAL and I dont think im gonna change it regulary coz I heard its so hard but in the long run what would be better or easier for me ?

 

MoBo with GTX1080.
From that Chinese youtuber 毛伸 who posts those series of reviews of 15R3 and 17R4 far before they are delivered to anyone.

 

Actually the agent from Dell told that guy the paste is too thin.

 

Actually the agent from Dell told that guy the paste is too thin.

 

Actually the agent from Dell told that guy the paste is too thin