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    New M17x R4, M14X R2 and M18X R2 are coming - Speculation thread.

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by sn0w13, Jan 25, 2012.

  1. Deimos Leone

    Deimos Leone Notebook Enthusiast

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    Our only hope to get a closer look at the new models :D
     
  2. Speedy Gonzalez

    Speedy Gonzalez Xtreme Notebook Speeder!

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    we are all eyes :D :)
     
  3. Dell-Bill_B

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    OK. I'll say what I can. A little reading between the lines is in order.

    "Alienware strives to provide the latest technology available. We will be making an announcement soon. As soon as we are allowed to say more, I'll copy/paste the specs in here."
     
  4. WaR

    WaR Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yes, that does sound like an M18x-R2 among other things :p... Now if I could read what 'soon' really means we are in business. I hope soon = Late April/Early May

    Thanks Bill
     
  5. icey_kitsune

    icey_kitsune Notebook Consultant

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    unless they are using "soon" the way that blizzard uses "soon" meaning it could be 4 months >.< but heres hoping soon is under a month, want to know if my moms tax return will be enough to buy myself a new laptop rather then get a few more months out of my m17x r1
     
  6. TheBluePill

    TheBluePill Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I knew it! You guys are releasing a Holodeck.. Aren't you? :D
     
  7. AirJordan

    AirJordan Notebook Evangelist

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    I hope it is released within three months, that's my ideal window...
     
  8. SOS4DELL

    SOS4DELL A Notebook Philosopher

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    "In Bill we trust" :D

    Maybe... they are releasinga quantum Alienware? ;)
     
  9. jinda

    jinda Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm itching for an AW :( I hope its going to be this month!
     
  10. nimbat1003

    nimbat1003 Notebook Geek

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    i'm giving to may 10 no latter
     
  11. bigtonyman

    bigtonyman Desktop Powa!!!

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    not looking at upgrading this year, but im really interested to see where alienware is going :D Hope the info is released soon.
     
  12. jinda

    jinda Notebook Evangelist

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    Will the M17x R3 upgrade-able to the new kepler GPU and IB CPU?
     
  13. TheBluePill

    TheBluePill Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Most likely yes on the GPU, probably not on the CPU.

    I have read the MXM slot will be compatible for GPU change-overs.

    I have read on several places that the IB CPUs wont work on current chipsets, as-is. Though a Bios Update might allow them to.
     
  14. Evil_Mask

    Evil_Mask Notebook Geek

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    I hope next year chassis change will occur at last ^^ .
     
  15. TheBluePill

    TheBluePill Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    That M18X Chassis is pretty good as it is now. Other than maybe changing the design of the "Grills" on the front. But, thats personal opinion.

    To make a major change, other than cosmetic, i don't figure is in the cards for this generation (R2). I could be wrong, but what they have works well for them and it seems the current chassis was built to be a reliable frame for several years worth of changes.
     
  16. Kev-Kanuk

    Kev-Kanuk Notebook Guru

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    might be news ???

    The alien M17R4 spy leaked with IVB performance upgrade

    ???M17R4???? ?IVB?????_??_???_????,????,????


    google translate works, most of it is here:


    4 June is an exciting season, because all notebook manufacturers, processors, manufacturers and graphics card manufacturers will be updated to a new product, Ivy Bridge is currently scheduled to be released in mid-April has been postponed until late April boring waiting for this post for everyone to bring a new generation of ALIENWARE M17X R3 spy photos, and the various test data! (Note: The spy definition low and did some safe handling of location information contained in all the pictures and filming equipment has been filtered out, please understand)

    The first is the body the appearance of part of the photo, these machines from the test factory, that is, the informal machine, mainly to test the stability of the interface functions, and new features.

    Almost the same appearance, so This test M17xR4 and on a new graphics card and processor, there are provisions can not be screenshots taken away, so only according to the videotaping of the host configuration for the i7 3820QM/GTX675M/24GB/1080p/750GB .

    There is also a M17xR4 Taiwan GTX680M version, the card is too new, GPUZ almost all Unkown. But the point of view the configuration information from DELL, GTX680M 768 stream processors, 32 ROPs 256bit bit wide, 4GB memory.

    There is one thing thing about GTX685M, in fact, from DELL, we only found the of GK106 N13E-GTX code of graphics, is a piece of GTX680M, and are not what GTX685M, the GTX680M the wattage measured up to 100W, and HD7970M 65w has a huge gap, do not know the formal card will not

    M17x-R4 specific configuration information: (not officially released, all programs are subject to change)

    Processor board with HM77 motherboard corresponding Ivy, Bridge, will provide a choice of three processors, the standard i7-3610QM provide i7-3720QM, i7-3820QM quad-core processor upgrade, As for the i7-3920XM in M18xR2.

    Graphics on sale initially provide GTX660M the HD7970M, and GTX675M three options, later will be the flagship GTX680M. The HD7990M is no news.

    Screen will be 1920x1080 1600x900 WLED 1920x1080 WLEDs and 3D WLEDs select sounds are the same as before, but the internal cable will be redesigned to use new materials, brightness and color to further enhance the response speed will be faster than before a lot. (The brightness of a friend said too much brighter than M18xR1! The reading M17XR4 screen look the M18X feel only half brightness)

    Memory will be 8GB/16GB/24GB/32GB several options, the frequency of pre-1333Mhz, 1600Mhz, post-2133Mhz version. The basic option and M17XR3 using the brand is no longer before the Kingston or Hynix, but will switch to Micron and South Asia, as to why we know.

    • Hard disk will 750GB 7200RPM jump, 500GB 7200RPM pure SATA version has disappeared, but the 500GB solid-state hybrid version retains the largest optional 2TB hard drive, but at a slower pace, 5400RPM.

    · New M17xR4 top of the screen also offers a 300W pixel camera, autofocus, while the keyboard light will continue to highlight, not before secretly feeling. The friend asked the water-cooled, clear, test models M17xR4 water-cooled, and the current data indicate that DELL plan on water-cooled, even M18xR2. Others, such as material, color, sound card, CD-ROM drive, four aspects have remained the choice unchanged, the NIC is not clear on the test models is the Killer, 1103 version (M17xR3 1102 version, less an interface.)

    In fact, like the white R4 upgrade iPhone4 to the Apple iPhone 4S 16G M17xR1 to M17xR2 is an inherent speed experience change, the major appearance change would leave next year the HASWELL processor and MAXWELL graphics,.

    Finally, the latest news is that M17xR4 estimated release time is the end of the quarter 2012 Q2, which is in May and June (PS: the last official time shall not exclude any early, delayed or change).
     
  17. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    ahahahaha :D YES!! THANKS BILL, we really appreciate all your effort a lot!!
     
  18. Evil_Mask

    Evil_Mask Notebook Geek

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    I meant mainly for the M11X which is a bit outdated considering how ultraportability has evolved in the last few years. With the rise of the Ultrabooks and other thin and light notebooks, Alienware simply can't stay with such a thick design (it also really need a screen upgrade!).

    Even the M14X could get a thinner chassis and no optical drive (an aluminium chassis would be great :p ) .

    For the M17X and M18X the chassis are good the way they are. I don't think sacrificing performance for portability is a good option for this kind of computer.

    The Razer Blade has a thin chassis but the performance are just not good enough for a 17 inch. But for a sub 15 inch I think portability is important.

    That's why I'm waiting next year for maybe a chassis upgrade with Win8 Haswell and GeForce 700M Series :p .
     
  19. orphyn09

    orphyn09 Notebook Geek

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    Razer blade is just..lol.

    With the m11x though what you have to remember is that most ultrabooks only run on integrated graphics which, while intell 4000hd graphics are supposed to be better than 3000, isn't really a description of a gaming notebook.

    Still love my optical drives though D= dun take them away :((
     
  20. Evil_Mask

    Evil_Mask Notebook Geek

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    More and more Ultrabooks will have discrete GPU like the Acer M3 so soon enough graphic performances of regular notebooks will get closer and closer to those of a M11X.

    And concerning the optical drive, I'd rather have a second HDD instead but that's my opinion...
     
  21. orphyn09

    orphyn09 Notebook Geek

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    m3 is also a 15" laptop so not really fair to compare it to the m11 imo..might not mind if the m14x were to go on a bit of a diet height wise though, but I'm still in the process of dreaming about having a laptop so I can't say much on that.

    And yeah optical vs. hdd I prefer optical but it goes either way xD either an external optical or an external hard drive so just preference, but I prefer optical =P
     
  22. Evil_Mask

    Evil_Mask Notebook Geek

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    True sorry not really fair. But I think smaller Ultrabooks will get their discrete GPU.

    By the way me too I'm still in the "dreaming of getting a new laptop" phase :p . My friend got a M14X and I started to envy him ^^ .

    In France an Alienware cost so much that you really never see one :p .
     
  23. gooface

    gooface Notebook Evangelist

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    my guess is we will get more info around the 29th (launch of Ivy)
     
  24. Mackan

    Mackan Notebook Evangelist

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    In other words, Ivy Bridge and new GPUs from Nvidia/AMD. ;) Yeah, that's typically how PR statements can be translated. I doubt there will be something "extra". Looking forward to the announcement though.
     
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  28. nimbat1003

    nimbat1003 Notebook Geek

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    dont forget that the p150em can have everything that the m17x has except the duel hdds(i dont think it has 3d thats on the p170)

    i'm surprised that they put in the the muticoloured keyboard i was just expecting a single colour i have the p170hm and it is a great laptop and the others look good in both specs and style except for the w270hm with the duel gpus that why i am gona get the m18x
     
  29. nimbat1003

    nimbat1003 Notebook Geek

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    the gtx 675m looks like ripoff compared to the gtx 670m its a $400 for a performance increase of about 20%
     
  30. Ammo7

    Ammo7 Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks for the up-date and the one's to come.
     
  31. custom90gt

    custom90gt Doc Mod Super Moderator

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    You mean it's a $100 dollar upgrade? Seems pretty decent to me.
     
  32. orphyn09

    orphyn09 Notebook Geek

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    Also no windows key on the left side, reminds me of msi.
     
  33. nimbat1003

    nimbat1003 Notebook Geek

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    $100 good but i thought i read $400 someware $100 is reasinable
     
  34. Cerberus

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    You didn't understand that well, it's a performance upgrade of 20%, not 20% on top of $400, it's $400 more ;)
     
  35. GTRagnarok

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    Going from a 670M to a 675M IS a $100 upgrade. The 675M is much cheaper than the 580M.
     
  36. madpit

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    :eek: any chance this could be true for the R4s? ;) Haven't been interested in AWs before, so don't know how their prices usually look like when new versions come out, might be actually worth it to wait a bit with a purchase.
     
  37. custom90gt

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    No, I read it correctly. It is a $100 upgrade, not a $400 upgrade to go up to a 675m...
     
  38. GTRagnarok

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    It'll be the same, more than likely. I don't see why Nvidia would charge Alienware more than Clevo.
     
  39. bigtonyman

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    Nah its all the money making scheme. Dell could charge more for it if they pleased and people would still buy it. ;)
     
  40. Aikimox

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    The price you see on Dell configuration pages isn't fixed and may change at any moment. Clevo resellers have a fixed price which may get updated couple of times a year but that's it. The thing is, you can't compare the two. There are too many factors at play. With Dell, you may end up getting a 680M SLI for 600$ total as well as for 1400$, lol. ;)
     
  41. madpit

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    All true, but for US/UK, where you've got coupons and can negotiate prices ;) Any discount I've managed to get was by showing reps prices at dell partner resellers, and rep offers were still worse than those from the resellers.

    So preety much it all depends if any of the partners get good deals or not for me.
     
  42. Peter

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    Guys, Actually my Replacement is on Hold for next 2 months, cosz they are runnin out of GTX 580M, Today i ve got call from Dell about to replacement with M18X with same processor and Dual 6990M with single HDD at just little additionally payment.
    Im confused should ive wait for M17x R4? As i know it will but not any markable improvement regardin to IY and GTX 675M. But im knee on Display. is there any chance Alienware come out with IPS RGB Screen or eDP will improve screen quality?
     
  43. TheBluePill

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    How much more? 2 6990Ms is a big step up from a single 580.

    The 675M and 580M are virtually identical in performance.. and IB isn't going to give you much improvement at all.. if any.
     
  44. jinda

    jinda Notebook Evangelist

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    How is this? What do you mean by "much"? Why are they changing to IB if its not much anyway? I'm just asking because I am also one of those who are trying to wait for the new one.
     
  45. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Also Canada. Last year there was a glitch on Dell.ca and people got M18x's with 2x580M's for 2,500$ , lol. That was shortly after launch. I remember, cus I bought one for a friend and with all the extras it was 2.7k. :)


    Ivy won't give you any improvement in games. Should be 10-15% over Sandy in artificial benches.
     
  46. jinda

    jinda Notebook Evangelist

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    So there is really no reason to upgrade if you have an existing AW with SB. For me, this will be my 1st time to try an AW, I know the M17xR3s will have cheaper price especially when the R4 comes out but if I get R3 now, is it going to give me some options regarding upgrading the CPU in the future if all future CPUs will be on IB platform?
     
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    The thing about ivy bridge is that its more energy efficient. I'm curious to see what battery life will be like. :)

    Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk
     
  48. Evil_Mask

    Evil_Mask Notebook Geek

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    Next year with Haswell there will be a big improvement. Current owners of 2011 Alienware revision shouldn't upgrade.
     
  49. orphyn09

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    From the charts I've seen of IB the voltage is identical to SB, atleast for the quadcore hyperthreading i7, didn't pay much attention to the others.
    That being said, because it has higher clock speeds, technically it is more "efficient" since you're getting higher clocks at identical power, but I would have liked lower voltage and higher clocks. :)
     
  50. jinda

    jinda Notebook Evangelist

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    This is making it harder. So if I wait for the IB this year, my AW will be outdated by next year since I cant upgrade my IB based AW to Haswell by just changing CPU. Then this opposed my plan now. Why would I spend 2-3k for a new AW with IB? This makes getting SB on cheaper price better then wait if its practical to upgrade when Haswell comes out. I'm more confused now :confused:
     
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