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    *OFFICIAL* "All Powerful" M15x Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by sleey0, Sep 22, 2009.

  1. Kevin

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    The Mobile 5000 goes is being produced in November, probably not in a notebook until '10.
     
  2. Alexrose1uk

    Alexrose1uk Music, Media, Game

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    Damn, still wonder if its involved somewhere, the timing does seem a little coincidental, given Dell have signed a massive OEM deal with AMD, and are announcing new hardware on the same day as the official 5 series launch, along with previous demand for 4 series mobile cards in AW machines. I dont doubt TSMC taking thier time fabbing the chips though. Bet AMD cant wait for Global Foundries to kick in.
     
  3. Uroboros

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    Thats what everyone has been saying, I'm thinking either 4870 or single 280, either would be fine for me. I really hope that the 5k series stays with MXM3.0b so in a year or so I could upgrade.
     
  4. Sladerade

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    anyone notice that there is no hdmi? is there a digital audio out?
     
  5. msparrow88

    msparrow88 Notebook Evangelist

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    ha well i was denied a DPA.
    i guess bc im a poor college student.
     
  6. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    anyone who thinks the 5 series will be out within the month is crazy
     
  7. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Not gonna happen. Expect the pricing to be similar to the M17x. The system will carry a premium for mobile i7. I'd be SHOCKED if it is less than the M17x.
     
  8. Alexrose1uk

    Alexrose1uk Music, Media, Game

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    Desktop set is out today, not expecting mobile parts yet, doesnt mean they cant announce them though, which is what Im wondering about, dates and all . Depends on when the real release for these machines is too, its just an announcement today, no?
     
  9. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    they haven't even announced the 4870 yet ....
     
  10. Uroboros

    Uroboros Notebook Evangelist

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    Even though HP are overpriced with the 15" Envy coming in at $1800 I'm thinking the price is going to be similar, maybe $100 less base then the 17. This said I think you will still be able to configure a decent setup around $2000+ since there is no need for a $600 sli upgrade and here's hoping for 4gb ddr3 stock. I'm limited to about $2200 and I think I should be able to get a few upgrades
     
  11. sleey0

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    I don't see how they are going to price the base M15x higher than the M17x.

    If it is even $100 less, than a decent config can be had for about $2k.
     
  12. Alexrose1uk

    Alexrose1uk Music, Media, Game

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    LOL true, AW and there cradle of openess. Its possible this machine will be announced with an 4870m now, with 5 series mobile available in a few months.
     
  13. daz7781

    daz7781 Notebook Consultant

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    Yes i posted this earlier. It's pretty dumb for them to leave out HDMI when most AV equipment has HDMI connections and hardly any have display port connections. I guess the only way round it is you'll have to muck around with adapters.
     
  14. the3vilGenius

    the3vilGenius 3vil knows no fear

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    yes they should of done it the other way around, leave out disply port but because dell is trying to push disply port this is what happens and then the alienware executives dare to say dell lets them do their thing. Dont think so
     
  15. Lethal Lottery

    Lethal Lottery Notebook Betrayer

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    1) price?
    2)availability?
    3)skullcap?
    4) graphics card exactly?
    5)cake?
     
  16. Joebarchuck

    Joebarchuck Notebook Virtuoso

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    What really makes me sad is that the new M15X with I7 and a 4870 might have better bench then a fully loaded M17X which makes me think they will soon update the M17X...
     
  17. sleey0

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    A single card setup will never outmatch a multiple card setup (at least with the current tech).
     
  18. msparrow88

    msparrow88 Notebook Evangelist

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    no it will not!
    dual 280s would demolish one 4870 even with an i7
     
  19. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    better bench ?

    in no way will the m15x beat the m17x with gaming
     
  20. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Not a chance of it benching higher so dont worry about that . Attleast not an SLI machine.
     
  21. Phinagle

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    The specs say power budget...if that means TDP then it looks like it'll be something 40-nm. Maybe a GTS 260m or Mobility 4830/4860. Mobility 5870 has a 60w TDP but it's still to early so no. ;þ

    GTX 260m/280m have a 75w TDP. I can't remember right now what Mobility 4850 and 4870 are rated at. If they fit under 65w it'd be tight and I don't know how much extra juice you'd get in to them for an overclock.
     
  22. the3vilGenius

    the3vilGenius 3vil knows no fear

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    Welcome to the world of laptops and hardware my friend. 6 months means not up to date
     
  23. sleey0

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    Thanks!

    I did look up the 4870 and it is at 65W.

    Interesting indeed!!
     
  24. Phinagle

    Phinagle Notebook Prophet

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    1920x1080 has a DPI of 141 on a 15.6" screen. Which is better than 1920x1200 and worse than a 1680x1050 on a 15.4" screen.

    1600x900 images are 118 DPI which would make them slightly smaller than 1440x900 DPI on a 15.4" screen (110 DPI).


    15.6" is a smaller screen than 15.4". 4 sq. in. smaller. It's basically a stretched out 14.1".
     
  25. Joebarchuck

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    Of course it won't for gaming but for multitasking with photoshop and dreamweaver most likely...


    Now what I don't get is that Intel does not mention I7 mobile as being available. If the PC comes out tomorrow that's strange that the I7 would be an option.
     
  26. sleey0

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    That's because Intel has an NDA that expires, you guessed it, tomorrow! lol
     
  27. Phinagle

    Phinagle Notebook Prophet

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    If it ever came out the 4860 would be the direct competitor to the 280m. If it ever came out in the M15x I'd be mighty pissed though if the M17x didn't get GDDR5 4870s. ;þ
     
  28. Quadzilla

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    Well we still dont know if there going to announce new cards for the M17x tomorrow which i think is a strong possibility myself. The ATI cards have been in the M17x bios far to long now with not a peep about them so my guess will be when they announce everything else .
     
  29. Phinagle

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    Safest guesses for the M15x are the Mobility 4830 or GTS 260m. If they offer a 5000 series card next year then I'd guess 5830 or 5850.

    At least we can surmise two things from this: 1> the next M17x will be 17.3" 16:9 and 2> this is why Chaz asked if we would still buy the M17x if it was 16:9. ;)
     
  30. sleey0

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    4830 and 260M as base cards, right?

    If that's it then I'll pass :(
     
  31. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    If those were the cards and then also taking those dimensions of the machine into consideration then yeah i would say forget about it . Way to many sacrifices being made if thats the case. Granted i7 and LED are awsome but compared to SLI and more screen real estate not to mention the extra HD bay ?.
     
  32. sleey0

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    What about your favorite M17x feature - the auto contrasting? lol

    I can almost guarnatee that the M15x won't have it (uses the same screens as the 1640).
     
  33. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Yeah thats the one thing that would be holding me away from the M17x even if they announce 4870s tomorrow .

    Maybe they will announce LED and 4870s tomorrow for the M17x :D.
     
  34. Joebarchuck

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    I suspect the M17X will get the I7 as an option on an upgraded version of the M17X by Christmas.
     
  35. ZenithNoesis

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    if displayports don't transmit audio it might as well be VGA for all I care.
     
  36. ZenithNoesis

    ZenithNoesis Notebook Evangelist

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    university of pittsburgh...


    but don't facebook stalk me.

    and give me rep. now.

    jk

    no seriously
     
  37. azelexx

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    oh man... I hope it really isn't the 4830 and 260GTS as well cos that would really suck. All the Sager and Asus boys will be laughing their *** off.

    I see in the manual there's a 9cell battery option, maybe the the M15x will last around 4-5 hours which is always good to know. In terms of chassis, I don't see a smart bay so maybe they've removed it...aww.

    At this point I'm not too sure which market alienware is trying to hit
    (1) 4830 + i7 with long Battery life would be really attractive if it was CHEAP, but high end gamers would probably pass.

    but

    (2) 4850/70 + i7 with/without long battery would be attractive to us high end gamers even with a premium price
     
  38. Thrawn

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    ROFL.

    Yes, yes they would.

    Alienware isn't gonna pull any punches here. You're going to see a 4870XT option for sure. Especially at the price point they are going to want to charge for one of these. Without the card and the i7, you got diddly. They know this.
     
  39. msparrow88

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    ha its ok, thank you though.
    i got the dell discount instead, which is 7%
     
  40. Phinagle

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    The size may be there in preparation for future cards. I honestly can't say what cards will be in there. If that power rating for the MXM slots is TDP then I can't see GTX mobile cards working and I'd suspect that they'd leave some headroom and not put an ATI card in that's rated at the max power rating....but then again maybe they will in which case 4850 would be the highest I'd go.

    I can see Dellienware releasing now with lower end cards to make some sales then switching later on when new cards come out. I haven't actually heard them advertise the M15x as "All Powerful" so it doesn't really need to have the best cards out at release from a "legal" stand point.
     
  41. Phinagle

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    Something to wonder about....a new CPU and chipset will mean a new BIOS that may not allow for the same overclocking features that the M17x had.
     
  42. alexnvidia

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    agreed, i would not settle for anything less than 4870+DDR5 or GTX280M in a notebook this size and weight (and an allpowerful claim). judging from the max 65W power budget, GTX280M is no longer possible, which leaves 4870 as the only option available to go high end.

    apart from not having HDMI (which probably is no big deal), it has only 3 USB ports (which may or may not be a big deal) one of which is shared with eSATA. if anyone uses eSATA, that's just 2 USB ports left (Ouch!)
     
  43. Phinagle

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    You show me any notebook that refreshed within 6 months and I'll believe you.
     
  44. sleey0

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    Phangle

    The user manual does show oc options. Not only that but the mobile i7 are oc'able.
     
  45. alexnvidia

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    probably that only applies to extreme core i7 920XM.
     
  46. sleey0

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    The turbo feature is available on the other models so I am not too worried ;)
     
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    My 2 cents....I think I may end up passing, I can't believe they used the EXACT SAME CASE as the M17x....They could've deviated from the design at least a little bit and made a sleeker design. My sticking point is looks...oh well better to just save my money anyway and use it for a vacation or something. Still looks like another winner though, im sure the owners will be happy with it.
     
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    I'll be happy with my M17x and Q9200 until the next gen mobile i7's come around, so if there is a M17x refresh, I'm not interested, but this M15x might be perfect for my girlfriend, she really likes my M17x, and wants a back lit keyboard, so this may be the laptop she's been looking for.
     
  49. azelexx

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    Yeah I have to say Alienware did a lazy job on that one....and let me guess, Nebula Red will released a while later as a "limited edition" (woooooo~)

    I'm also not very impressed with the dimensions and weight.... such a big chassis with only one CPU and one GPU....and weighs 4kgs..... bah.
     
  50. The_Moo™

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    they didnt do a lazy job

    its AW style they pick a design and float with it ....

    just like their desktops and their laptops future and past





    IMO the thermal design is great and the design of the laptop is superior


    and why is this new anyone who had any details was tellling you ITS GOING TO BE THE SAME
     
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