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    *OFFICIAL* Alienware M11x Owners Lounge - Part 2

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by steveninspokane, Feb 2, 2010.

  1. iMbaQ

    iMbaQ Notebook Evangelist

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    I mean, the netbooks with the same ULV processors as these. I currently use a C2D 2.0 ghz - and am a little weary of being disappointed by the performance of this, for everyday tasks - maybe I am just being paranoid.
     
  2. filipp

    filipp Notebook Evangelist

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    You dont have to work for Dell. Just be a student or work for some company and say you have EPP. They don't check.
     
  3. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    If it has this processor it is not a netbook

    my dad has an inspiron mini 11z and it runs windows 7 fine with only 2 gb of ram and a su4100
     
  4. basehitter3

    basehitter3 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ok, so I'm ready to buy my m11x, I have the 10% of EPP discount and the $50 off newsletter coupon, but I cannot find the $100 off systems $1000 or more coupon. Could someone please help!

    Thx!
     
  5. crazyotterhound

    crazyotterhound Notebook Consultant

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    To be honest I think you would find it quite hard to spot the difference between your C2D @ 2.0Ghz and an overclocked SU7400 @ 1.6Ghz for everyday tasks.
    It will be fine - my Acer Ferrari one has a slower processor (Athlon X2 @ 1.3Ghz) and it flies through most tasks on Windows 7.
     
  6. Zlog

    Zlog Notebook Deity

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    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=456512

    There ya go :D Make sure to get 3% MORE off if you use the Dell Preferred Account.
     
  7. adrock301

    adrock301 Notebook Geek

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    hmm... now my status is "work in progress" Never seen that before?
     
  8. kevin25a

    kevin25a Notebook Geek

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    Be careful with the Gobi card for AT&T if you have an Iphone. The review calls out that they were dissapointed to find out that the Iphone SIM is device locked and CANNOT be used in the M11X :mad:

    From that review I would infer that if you have any OTHER AT&T smart phone with unlimited Data plan you should be able to use the SIM in your phone to get access.

    Verizon however you will have to choose one of their data plans:

    250MB a month 29.99
    5GB "unlimited" Data plan 59.99 a month

    Ive not been able to determine if you will need a contract commitment, but given your paying full price for the Gobi I would doubt it.
     
  9. Desertf0x9

    Desertf0x9 Notebook Evangelist

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    Well I cancelled my order with the su4100 and ordered one with a su7300, Sales Rep said the SU4100 is not overclockable while the SU7300 is. I figure it's worth $90 not to beat myself over the head in the end if it turns out not to be overclockable.
     
  10. Aisuhime

    Aisuhime Notebook Geek

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    I wonder if they only said that so that you'd spend more money for it. /rollseyes
    I guess we'll see when people who opted for the SU4100 get their machines. : /
     
  11. filipp

    filipp Notebook Evangelist

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    Good call, OCing to 1.6 with the flick of a switch is definitely worth 90$ since that is a 20% increase.

    I actually spoke to a Senior Rep yesterday while trying to get bluetooth and she said they brought the m11x around and they got to hold it / play with it. So some of the reps might have played with it and seen if it's actually OCable or not but others could be BSing.
     
  12. YodaGoneMad

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    This is probably a good call, I have heard this from about 6 different reps that the SU4100 is not OCable, and also looking at the architecture of the SU4100 it makes sense to me why they might disable that feature for it.

    It also makes the pricing seem a little more appropriate. $100 extra for 5% is stupid, but with 1 touch overclocking suddenly its $100 more for 25%, and that is rather more appealing.
     
  13. Desertf0x9

    Desertf0x9 Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah, not sure what to believe but in the end I felt like it was safer to go with the SU7300. If the su4100 turns out to be overclockable, then oh well.... but if it doesn't it's going to drive me nuts.
     
  14. aznguyen316

    aznguyen316 Rock Chalk Jayhawk

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    Another Dell rep has also said su4100 is not over clockable so take that however you want, I'm going for the sure route.

    Also don't forget about resale value as mentioned before. Cannot explain how big a differrence in name of the c2d is over a pentium chip. Even on a notebook site people are questioning the CPU here. Even mentions of it being a single core which to me I also associate a pentium with sorry to say. I'm a big eBay seller so yeah if you care hehe :)
     
  15. rushmore

    rushmore Notebook Evangelist

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    What netbook uses a 4100 or 7300? Slimbooks and others do, but netbooks do not, do in part to the Microsoft restrictions for what hardware can be used. The demo and reviews are running at stock speed, so a dual core at 1.6ghz with the 335m 1gb will be perfect for performance / battery life balance. That is the whole design premise of it.
     
  16. adrock301

    adrock301 Notebook Geek

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    anyone know about it being 12 months interest free for dpa accts?
     
  17. Zlog

    Zlog Notebook Deity

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    thats the way I've started looking at it too. Egg's IS RIGHT that there is no difference between CPUs other then 1mb cache and VT.... In fact, historically less onboard cache has been easier to OC then chips with more.

    BUT on the off-chance that dell turned off the OC switch in the BIOS for the SU4100, I'm going with the SU7300. If they both OC, then at least the 7300 with be a 1-5% faster OC then the 4100 :p lol

    FINALLLLLYY got my RMA numbers today from dell, and their picking up my useless S-XPS systems. Ordering these systems tonight on my DPA.
     
  18. YodaGoneMad

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    It is interest free for 12 Months, mine showed the XPS promotion as well but went through none the less.
     
  19. Zlog

    Zlog Notebook Deity

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    I wonder if OCing it is actually upping the voltage at all on the CPU or other components. If it isn't, we might literally be looking at free speed that doesn't even lower our battery life.
     
  20. YodaGoneMad

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    According to the pictures on the Heaven review I don't think it ups the voltage or anything. It looks like it just bumps the FSB to 266 and changes the multiplier to 6.

    They also noted that it was basically free speed, as there is negligible heat and no other down side.
     
  21. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    it will almost certainly be the same voltage....45nm core 2 duo parts have a ton of headroom at stock voltage
     
  22. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    One concern though is why did they not keep the multiplier at 6.5? That is what the Asus models have and would have been nice here as well
     
  23. Villosa

    Villosa Notebook Deity

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    Just ordered my first AW! Got the su7300, 320gb HDD, and 4 GB ram. Used DPA and got great discounts. Thanks NBR.

    How long does it take for the order to go through the system. I ordered about 10 minutes ago and I haven't received an email or confirmation yet.
     
  24. mlee49

    mlee49 Notebook Consultant

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    Damn it! I've spec'd this book out 3 times already and every time I go to checkout(even with $250 in discounts) I think "My wife is going to kill me"

    I must know the following:

    Whats Dell's return process? 30 days full refund?

    Will it play 1080 smoothly on a different monitor?

    What am I passing on by not waiting another 4 months? ie better cpu, price, ect.

    Why should I return to AW/Dell when my old M9700 died literally at 15 mo? I swore I would never return...
     
  25. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    if a notebook dies out of warranty that is not a good reason to ditch a brand.....

    you will have 21 days from the day it ships to return for full refund

    it did play 1080p fine using the 335m

    there is speculation that around october there will be a refresh with newer cpu's but any performance gain is questionable at this point
     
  26. YodaGoneMad

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    Refund with restocking fee on all custom built machines (is my impression). I think it is 15%, so nothing to balk at.

    Yes it will play 1080P smooth, with like 15% Cpu, so in other words no problem.

    It is highly unlikely there will be any changes in 4 months, in fact current sources say 6-8 months minimum for a refresh. Also, with all the current discounts in reality you might end up paying more in 4 months.

    I can't answer the last questions, sounds like bad luck, maybe spend a bit more and grab the extended warranty or one from Square Trade or something if you are worried. I guess the other answer is because Alienware is the only place to get anything like the M11X.
     
  27. aznguyen316

    aznguyen316 Rock Chalk Jayhawk

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    Here's what I suggest. Spec out the base model and call it good. Buying a new hdd and ram will be easier explining fo the wifey :) maybe up the CPU but yeah it'll be so cheap then at base plus discounts
     
  28. ezlnh8u

    ezlnh8u Newbie

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    im guessing battery life is horrible as well?
     
  29. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    shouldnt be, there are low voltage core i parts as well
     
  30. Docsteel

    Docsteel Vast Alien Conspiracy

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    Go to www.dell.com/epp, then check the list. Basically, you either need to be a student, work for the government in some capacity, or work for a company that is an EPP partner... I shudder to think how many "students" ride the discount years after getting out of college.... :rolleyes:
     
  31. AndyW

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    HSBC is my bank, it was very odd, never had that happen before, very odd mate, especially if they have taken ya money too, keep pushing mate

    Good luck !
     
  32. mlee49

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    Thanks guys for the details. I appreciate them. If I buy I'm definitely adding an additional 3 year warranty.
     
  33. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    you have upto the end of the default one year warranty to add on the rest

    it can be a good way of spreading the cost around
     
  34. cookinwitdiesel

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    I have a blackberry with verizon, I have to pay $30 a month on top of $30 already to tether (but we get the base data plan cheaper :) )

    I am going to see if I can just put my blackberry sim card into the M11x directly
     
  35. aznguyen316

    aznguyen316 Rock Chalk Jayhawk

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    Good to hear, like Apple Care then. So can it be purchased online via EPP if you enter in your service tag info or something? Reason I ask is, it would've been nice to get a good percentage off it along with the rest of the computer ya know hehe but I didn't want to spend all that right now, like you said about spreading the cost.
     
  36. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    you may be able to apply epp to the warranty upgrade down the road - is at least worth a try ;)
     
  37. Enrodrehern

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    Guys will this computer play the age of empire games pretty good?!? Those are one of my favorite pc games
     
  38. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    this laptop will play any game ok. playing them great is what most people are worried about - meaning 30+ fps with all settings maxed out
     
  39. steveninspokane

    steveninspokane John 14:6 - Only ONE Way!

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    Please keep me informed, My Wife has a BB Storm, and it will come in hand on road trips. :)

    Unless using the sim card from the BB costs money, then I wont use it anyway.
     
  40. shadowarachh

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    verizon does not use sim cards.
     
  41. riblau

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    i have ordered one of these computers and it cost me £900
     
  42. cookinwitdiesel

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    the blackberry's use sim cards

    trust me, I am looking at it

    I also have a storm :)
     
  43. adrock301

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    Yeah, some of Verizon's "world" phone have the Euro bands, so they also have a SIM card...
     
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    I'm really sorry if this is a dumb question... but what it tethering and is it "legal"? As in Verizon knows about it or you can't tell them. I just wanted some info because I'm thinking of getting the Droid (I have the Env touch and it just doesn't do much :( )
     
  45. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    it is just connecting you computer to the internet through the cell modem in your cell phone

    it is supported by all carriers but some charge you for the priviledge (which I personally think is BS if you are already paying for a data plan)
     
  46. Aisuhime

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    I still haven't actually found out whether I'll be charged for using my iPhone as a modem via tethering... :S I guess I'll go do that now haha.
     
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    rpg-XPS Notebook Evangelist

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    For prospective UK student buyers, you can use the link below to navigate through the Dell UK website to obtain a 6% discount on your M11x. It's not much, but it's something!

    http://www.dell-sci.co.uk/sci/index.html
     
  48. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

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    ATT will eventually get you for it.

    And don't look at the bill cuz you might have a heart attack ;)
     
  49. Aisuhime

    Aisuhime Notebook Geek

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    Damnit...I've already ordered mine. XD
     
  50. Doc Comic

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    Delivery date of 3/8. I think I'm gonna drive all of my family and friends nuts with my impatience for this thing!
     
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