*OFFICIAL* Alienware M11x Owners Lounge - Part 2

I am typing on a black MacBook and I know what you mean. From the videos, it looks like it's gloss or semi-gloss and a bit of a fingerprint magnet but one of the Alienware reps (I think it was Darkhan) said it's not that bad.

 

Learn what you're talking about before you make accusations like that. In FACT kingston makes two types of SSDs, one is bought from intel and they put a sticker on it that says kingston, i.e: http://techgage.com/reviews/kingston/ssd_upgrade_kit/kingston_ssd_upgrade_kit_02_thumb.jpg

The other has the crappy controller I was talking about, i.e.: http://regmedia.co.uk/2009/07/22/ssdnow_1.jpg

Notice how one is called the SSDnow v series, like you linked, and comes in sizes of multiples of 64gb and the other is called SSDnow m series and comes in 80/160gb sizes? Yeah....it's lack of attention to detail like that which Kingston relies on to get you to buy an inferior product.

Please don't act like you know what you're talking about before you actually get your facts right.

 

Darky, what kinda RAM does the m11x use. Cause I wanna check if upgrading it using the store's wares is cheaper than the upgrade on the dell site.

 

Barrok, I should also mention that you say you have a supertalent drive that has the "illidenix" controller (indilinx) but did you know they also sell two types of drives, one with the crappy controller and the other with the indilinx?

The one with indilinx is called the ultradrive and the one with the jmicron is called masterdrive. Do you even have a drive with an indilinx controller? You made the mistake once already, you couldve made it with your supertalent too.

Not only that, but you appear to not have even used an intel drive and its up in the air if you even know what SSD you are using, so how are you even competent enough to comment on these matters? You dont even know how much better the intel can be than even the indilinx drives so how can you advise someone that it's not worth it?

I suppose it definitely wouldnt be worth it if you're using a supertalent masterdrive, you don't even know what you're missing.

 

LOL Egg, DOWN boy Hell figure it all out the hard way Im sure

 

My date is still 3/8 and my Paypal payment still says pending.

 

hehe, i take personal offense to people telling me i dont have my facts right, if i wasn't sure I wouldnt have spoken the way I did

 

hey egg...any opinions on the new crucial c300 coming out soon?

 

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yeah, ive already sold mine to get the m11x =)

 

Everything I have read on Anandtech and Toms hardware says that the C300 blows the doors off the fastest Intel, but its not out yet, so time will tell.

 

hehe...i'm reading that too. just wondering if its going to be limited by m11x hardware since its sata II. i couldn't find anywhere if the c300 is going to be a different standard or not (its supposed to be 6gbps; is that different from sata II?).

thanks for the reply been reading every page here seeing if people mentioned it at all...sooooo many pages....lol

 

Sata Ver 2 3gbps Sata ver 3 6gbps

Sata II = 6gbps

From what I can tell M11x Sata Ver 2

 

Of the past ten pages I'm reading since work this is the best confirmation yet. Exactly what I was hoping. Btw this thread kind of sucks now lol but there's not much else to do in terms of the M11x for now I should stop obsessing... Too many pages read in the past month in the three threads

thanks Darkhan!

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so Sata Ver 2 and Sata II are totally different?

ooooooooo....thanks man! that actually clarifies a lot. i'm going back to read the article again. i was getting pretty confused while reading the articles.

so i'm assuming it'd be pretty pointless to get the c300 if it'll be bottlenecked by the m11x. better to just get an intel.

 

You are kidding right? Do your research.

http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3667&p=4

The V-Series uses an Intel controller. Anandtech talks about it right there.

kingston has two different models (maybe three if they have a j-micron) but the v-series and the v+ series are both intel. The v-series is a gimped intel, and the v+ series is a rebranded G2 intel (or g1 when they had those)

I have the ultradrive by the way, with the latest firmware (1916) that I just flashed. I am much more knowledgeable on SSD's as evident by the fact of your kingston noobness. Sorry bro, but stop spreading mis-info.

Also, to top it off you said Nvidia doesnt allow for overclocking in their drivers, which is false. You are 0 for 2 today.

 

I have never used an intel drive but my buddy at work bought one the day I bought my super talent ( i would have gone g2 80gb but i wanted some more space). We have done plenty of pcmark vantage comparisons, atto comparisons, and crystal diskmark (as well as boot timer) and they are very close. 4k writes go to intel, sequentials to illidinix or what ever the hell the spelling is.

I have trim and garbage collection on this latest firmware and it is running just as quick as day one. If it makes you feel better here is crystaldisk info:

Disk List ---------------------------------------------------------------
(1) STT_FTM28GX25H : 128.0 GB [0-2-0, pd1] - indilinx
Model : STT_FTM28GX25H
Firmware : 1916

 

Please stop being so wrong. They labeled the new half-G2s the ssdnow v. AGAIN they have fooled you. This is amazing how many times they've fooled you. And you keep thinking you know what the heck is going on! PLEASE STOP ALREADY! Im going to die laughing!

 

Bro, i just posted the link. Anandtech, one of the smartest guys in the industry (he got the intel, the kingston, and many of the illinidex drives before anyone else to test) says it has the intel controller. Why don't you believe him?

 

Look, OK you have an indilinx. Bravo. The only thing I was contesting was your crazy claims that your ssdnow-v series was intel. It wasn't. I just brought into question your understanding of the indilinx supertalent versus the jmicron similar situation because of your baseless accusation that I had my facts wrong.

Kingston labeled the new 40GB intels ssdnow v just to screw with your mind. Just admit you were wrong. For the sake of the thread. At the very least don't mislead people in the future when you don't know what you're talking about. This all started when you posted a link for a terrible terrible jmicron drive and told me i didn't check my facts when i called you out for it. THAT happened, this whole me getting my facts wrong thing you're trying to prove didn't.

 

BRO how many more times are you going to bring it up as if you were right? They sold 64GB and 128GB drives under the ssdnow v series label that had the jmicron controller. You, posted a link to the amazon page for that item, and told someone to buy it. Thats what I'm saying, and you dont get it. Are you not reading my text correctly? What's the problem here?!?

 

Wats Goin On In Dis Thred Gais

 

Do you see how above you linked to the very same drive that was featured in this review on the site we're on, notebookreview?

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=395398

That's what you told the guy to buy, and is what i contested, I don't see how you're getting this wrong over and over again.

 

...well it appears that the $50 off coupon for EPP members isn't working anymore. Hm.

 

Yeah all the coupons are dead now except regular EPP

 

when someone gets their m11x please make a new thread about it, im getting tired of this thread with repeated discussions, offtopic things, and complaining that won't change the components inside the computer...

 

What else we going to talk about, its a month till we get our new toy.

 

Hello Darkhan,

Any insight why the M11x was designed as thick as it is? The Asus UL30VT shows that similar hardware can be in a thinner design. Is it for the design of heat dissipation of the 335m? For that matter, I think the M11x is thicker than the DVD drive version of the Asus (UL80).

I am not complaining (I ordered one), but people that think the device is not thin enough may appreciate the design more (assuming heat dissipation is the reason or some other tech issue).

I was considering getting the UL30JT when it comes out, but the M11x is too "cute" to pass up. It is a MANLY cute, though

 

oh yeah and about the corsair c300, if the specs on it are true, it should be a good drive. Problem is, the intels have a set upgrade cycle, and the old version when the g3 comes out will then be the g2 and could be heavily discounted.

if the c300 really is that good, there will be mad demand for it, especially with people looking to justify their sata 6gbps controllers. So the price will be completely jacked.

Don't forget that the c300 is even more of a waste for the m11x because of the sata 6gbps not being supported in the m11x as far as i know. So it will be basically limited to people who want 6gbps compatibility. This could drive price down though if they are hard to sell.

With sandforce coming, that looks like an even better contender. The problem is that they've already stated how they need to remove more userspace for room for cache or redundancy or something, so the capacities will be limited unfortunately. like multiples of 50GB ! Also, part of what makes sandforce a competitor is that bad flash is OK to use because of the extended write cycles allowed, I personally dont like the idea of using cheap nand, but its necessary to bring the prices down to acceptable levels.

I'd say a sandforce with a good amount of userspace per nand set and good flash will be the cream of the crop but then you have the price being ultra high.

Anyway all the better competition will drive all prices down so consumers win!

 

And it might get AlienFX capabilities before Linux if AlienFX works with CrossOver... not sure if it plays well in WINE.

 

Heat was a major deciding factor in the size, but to be honest to answer this question the best would be one of the engineers on the design team.

For me the size is perfect, the thickness adds to the solid build quality. When you get your 11X in your hands you will realize that the build quality far exceeds the competition.

 

I'd say this is the one thing that laptops with outdated or simply bad components can claim.

Look at the macbook pro line, best GPU available is like 2 years ago's best model. They love to be sleek and thin. perfect for people who dont or barely game though.

Then you go to a macbook air and you lose the gpu and everything else gets mini-sized. Even sleeker, and you lose almost all ports and cpu speed too.

An unfortunate choice that laptops will have for some time is sleekness or power, not both. The m11x gets us as close to a sleek and thin look as possible with an unheard of gpu as its mate. I'll take chunky if it gets me 72 Stream processors thanks

 

i dunno, it could work because of its simplicity but it also has to interface with the hardware so i'm skeptical.

How does alienfx work in alternative OSes on the m15x or m17x?

and filipp, terrible battery life, or you can run it on integrated and get no qe/ci or not work at all. nothing like a real macbook thats for sure.

 

Yeah I'll enjoy a laptop that's thicker than wider. I'm tired of worrying that my laptop will snap in half when I pick it up; I want solid quality.

 

I don't think anyone has tried it in WINE... or just hasn't said it. From what I've gathered, the lights are actually USB devices so it's just a matter of probing around. Also if you boot into Windows, change the colors, and boot back into Linux, the colors will remain. Not sure about pulsating/switching, though.

 

Sony Z has 330m, i7 and a 13" screen and is smaller than m11x LOL

 

And is USD $1,000 more expensive for just a faster processor. >:O

Edit: I also don't like the spacing on the Z's keys. I don't even think they're backlit, either.

 

yeah its got i7 but like ceol said, crazy expensive, its wider instead of thicker which i also agree with ceol that i prefer thicker, the gpu on the m11x has a serious advantage, probably no backlit keyboard and such.

that sony z is about the only competition the m11x can arguably have right now, and forgive me if I don't want to support a company who wants to take me to the cleaners for a product that is arguably inferior to another in a few ways

 

and double the price

 

Damnit, Darkhan, I'm already watching the clock every day waiting for this thing, and every time you post it makes the minutes go by even slower!

 

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Now that's funny, so who's eta for their machine so far?

 

So what brand of SSD do DELL/AW put in there laptops?

 

Samsungs. According to eggs there.

 

Probably samsung engineered brand for dell or a dell one.

 

I agree. M11x should be a good balance of true portability and power that does not cost an absurd amount of money.

 

Mine moved from 3/4/10 to 3/1/10 today, still not sure if its a Dell glitch or if the date move is real though.

 

So SAMSUNG SSD are not as good as other SSD?

 

When did you place your order?

 

The Samsung SSD, uses (I believe) a Jmicron controller, does not support the TRIM standard, and is slow with 4k writes. So as it goes its still much faster than just about any regular drive, but not nearly as good as an Intel or drive that uses the Idilinx controller like the ocz.

The discussion here has been basically you are better off with a 7200 rpm drive with much bigger capacity, and saving the money, rather than going with the samsung while you wait for prices to come down on the other SSD's or sales to happen. Personally, I cant justify the 350.00 price tag for any SSD. I play primarily MMORPG's and the hella fast read speeds of an SSD wouldn't do anything for me.