*OFFICIAL* M11x Owners Lounge - Part 3

Yes. It has been like that for a while. People ravished Dell with orders and that's the consequence.

 

how many days where you in the 'In production' stage and when did it change to shipping?

 

FYI for anyone thinking of sleeves - I got my 12 inch Kroo retro yesterday - it seems a bit small, not sure if it will fit the m11x... will advise once my machine shows up, but if anyone was on the fence I'd recommend a different sleeve.

 

I'm sure the M11x will ship with its own sleeve, like the bigger models. Not bad unless you don't mind that it seems to be made out of sand paper.

 

i am gonna get the belkin black and red one 12 inch dimensions for it seems fine from amazon btw

 

isn't that sleeve thin it doesnt offer much protection, maybe if you put it in the sleeve shipped with it and then in a case for extra protection?

 

@war
lol what the heck, the sleeve seems to be made out of sand paper?!?!!?

 

I was wondering about that microfiber Kabuto thing... will it cover the keyboard and overlap the edges? I don't want it to be too big for the laptop

 

Thanks.

Because of that price tag it compromises the sub 1K price of M11x and the options are less compared to the non-EPP website(specially the HDD).

 

i think it will the dimensions of the kabuto are smaller than mllx but other than that i dont knwo i was gonna wait until someone on this thread posts a pic of mllx with the kabuto

 

thanks for the info looks like i will still be getting mine on my edd 26/02 your lucky

 

Hahaha, wow you guys all got such crazy deals on this system.

I paid $1,500

I'm just helping Dell make all the money back they lost from you guys stacking 40 coupons lol .

 

Hey so they mentioned before in previous posts how the SU4100 processor may be overclockable. Is it worth the additional $100 to upgrade to the SU7300, or is it just so you can say you have a Core 2 Duo instead of the other one? I mean, performance wise if we can overclock the base processor we shouldn't see a noticeable difference in gaming or will we? I am just trying to save the $100 if it won't mean much. Thanks in advance.

 

@taco
the SU4100 has been confirmed in numerous instances to be overclockable.

 

@jonjonk - So you, in my position not having ordered the system yet... would you throw the extra $100 for the SU7300? My question may not be answerable until we can get benchies with both processors and compare the results side by side...

 

@taco
Depends on what you want. There are two major differences between the two processors. The SU7300 has virtualization (a function that I will probably never use), and it's a C2D (so resale value is slightly higher, but then again, it's $100 extra). The differences pretty much ends there. Performance wise, the SU7300 is only around 4-5% better. Since most of the coupons have already expired, I recommend you to get the SU4100. Do keep in mind that the $100 premiums is not because the processor is $100 worth of more power, Alienware just tends to overprice everything. For instance, take a look at their M15X and M17X.

 

for a cpu comparison check the hardware heaven review link on the first page

 

Also there are other benchmarks (not specific to the M11x though), and based on those the SU7300 is about 5, maybe 10% faster.
Since most games are gpu dependant the difference will be even smaller than that.
Go for the SU7300 if you want virtualisation and SSE4 instructions, or if you don't care if it costs 100 more for the max 10% more speed.

 

I believe for a laptop you will use for (many?) years, and one which performance is most important for gaming, it's worth the extra $100 .

 

i think thats the main difference between 5100 and 5300, 5300 supports 5ghz dual band but the 5100 doesnt, one thing i noticed though was that the 5100 can access 5ghz channels, but i think its not at a 5ghz frequency.

I know that doesnt make sense but theres something fishy like that going on, I'm sure of it.

 

@jonjonk - hehe thanks for all your replies... so in fps that won't mean much at all then?

 

EXACTLY. although the resale value may be higher, you have to pay $100 upfront before you can access that resale value bump.

Either cpu in the m11x wont help resale value much in a year or two down the line, and if you plan to sell the m11x in a few months then the $100 price bump will NOT be made up in resale value.

The only single consideration is if sse4 instructions and virtualization is worth $100 to you, you can even virtualize the pentium on vmware just not virtual xp mode (which costs $130 extra) or virtualbox. So if pcsx2 performance is of high concern (only thing that I've heard of that needs sse4 for good performance) then theres your $100 upgrade just for that. there is a negligible performance difference with the 1mb cache upgrade.

Glad to see that in the past several pages people are being smart and really understanding what that $100 cpu upgrade gets you!

 

@taco
Maybe 2-3 extra fps? The difference is very small.

 

oh and what are SSE4 Instructions? I just want to be able to run MW2 and most first person shooters (like FEAR 2). Currently my ASUS G1S-A1 has a hard time playing FEAR 2.

 

@taco

Take a look at the first post with all the resources. Most of the demos will show you that MW2 runs very well. Keep in mind that these demos are not overclocked so ours will run 20%+. The M11x should be able to run most games on good fps with medium settings. The 2 released reviews do not have any info on Fear 2, I believe.

 

SSE4 shouldn't make a big difference (if it matters at all) in games. If you're on a budget, the SU4100 is the way to go. The 5% (at most) improvement of the SU7300 is not worth the $100 extra.

 

@opnickc - Thanks for the advice. I think I may do the SU4100 then... but the Core 2 Duo is really tempting me since that is all I have ever owned... hehehe that's psychology playing tricks on the brain

 

Just peel the sticker off when you get it and replace it with a Core 2 sticker from another computer. You'll feel much better.

 

Nice sticker indeed

 

Didn't someone from NBR post stats that the SU4100 might end up being slightly faster than the SU7300 in benchmarks? Personally I got the SU7300 because I do a lot of virtualization.. Almost got 8GB because of that. (Which is one of the few reasons I can see the need for 8GB. running a lot of virtual machines, or doing editing on big files.)

Regarding the Intel 5100 vs 5300 the only real difference is the amount of antennas they use. The 5300 will use 3 (for a 3x3 connection.. 3 transmit 3 receive..this is also called MIMO for multi in multi out) and the 5100 uses 2 antennas (a 1x2 setup, 1 transmit 2 receive). The 5300 will give you better 802.11n speed and a slightly better range, especially when paired with a MIMO router. They both support a/b/g/n and will both do 802.11n on 5ghz.

 

soleblaze, thanks for commenting abou the 5300 vs the 5100, I think that's what I remember about the differences.

I think you misunderstood about the su4100 vs su7300, see, it wont be faster with benchmarks, its just that a lower cache has in the past meant a higher OC. So, in using setfsb we can probably for example get the su4100 to 2ghz much more reliably than we could the su7300.

It's really only a statistic worthy of an overclocker, but thats exactly what I am so I predict its possible that the su4100 can get to a higher stable OC than a su7300 but that remains to be seen and also you're risking the life of the laptop by OCing higher than the bios lets you anyway, so just keep that in mind.

 

SSE only a need if a program uses them (of course). I know that on my laptop and desktop, disabling SSE options in PCSX2 makes a difference in framerates. That emu is using every resource it can. Kudos to the devs

Given that there is about +5% FPS framerates, the 1.73 clocked cpu can use all it can . For me, the SSE and 5% extra FPS makes the $90 worth it (discounted).

As far as comparing different systems with 4100 and 7300 cpu's, not really apples to apples unless same MB's, bios, etc. One could be faster than the other by default

 

Use this Promo code EMCYNZT56 and you can pick up the

ASUS USB-BT21 USB 2.0 Mini Bluetook Dongle from NewEgg.com

For those who did not add BT to their m11x order

 

What I was told by the EPP rep was that EPP tries to determine the most desired configuration and that is what they offer at the site....I told them than they should be like the normal site and offer all options...

I think they want to drive sales to reps.

 

@anejo

just tried the promo code. it says it's invalid.

 

Anyone see this M11x video yet? The lady in the first vid is cute

Second vid is about 10% M11x. The music is annoying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaUlXxQEGM4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdVRcgn0hGA

 

@anejo

I researched a little. The code was only for a 1 day promo, yesterday. lol.

 

I assumed the promo was the same for all...I guess these are specific to me.

Sorry for the confusion.

There is a sale going on...if you order by phone perhaps they will honor the lower price

 

check the sig

 

Personally I like my sig

 

Id link the real original post in your sig, at least make some attribution to the guy who posted it 3 years earlier rather than the guy who posted it this year. Just my opinion though I guess.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=156489

 

Egg Scrambled no offence here, but you constantly give wrong info and mislead people. Why not just read up specs before posting some invalid facts

http://download.intel.com/network/connectivity/products/wireless/319981.pdf

 

It's not 2010, it's April 2011!!! That would suck soo much.

 

mine has been in-production for a couple of weeks now, and it still shows edd of 03/08/10. Time to call the reps me thinks

 

Yep, pretty much the only difference between the two products is that the 5300 supports 3 antennae (for a 3x3 setup, which basically means full-speed 802.11n), while the 5100 only supports two (2x1, best you'll get on 802.11n is about 130Mbps)

 

but the one on the dell's site said 2x2 im so confused

 

maybe its the 5200! LOL

 

Hi everybody
- im quielty reading this highly addictive thread since page 1 on part 1 and now with the first HAnds On only few hours away I can't take it anymore!

I demand some serious speculation about the performance of the m11x on external Display with 1920x1080. Will Source games be possible in full details? What about newer/recent games?
Some estimations?
Please!

 

1080P is twice as many pixels so expect half the performance. Otherwise will be playable just the same. If something ran at 60 expect 30, at 30 expect 15, etc. This will vary a bit, and the 1080P FPS will be a little more than half, so like 20 rather than 15, but it is a pretty good measure. At least this has generally been my experience.

 

According to hardware heaven, Counter Strike Source will run at high settings, full HD, with 15 players at an average of 67fps. The built-in benchmark returns 149fps.

Source: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/hh-reviews/196228-alienware-m11x-notebook-review-hh-4.html#post1343454