*OFFICIAL* M11x Owners Lounge - Part 3

yep, and on the 360 as well so my coincidental but weirdly accurate theory holds.

 

well the xbox 360 is basically a 400 dollar graphics card with a cell phone processor.

^^ exaggeration but the concept is the same.

 

I lied:
"Xbox 360 uses the triple-core IBM designed Xenon as its CPU, with each core capable of simultaneously processing two threads, and can therefore operate on up to six threads at once.[56] Graphics processing is handled by the ATI Xenos, which has 10 MB of eDRAM. Its main memory pool is 512 MB in size."
-wikipedia

 

ashodd, I just got done making a replay that I uploaded to youtube that basically consists of 400 zerglings being made and then attacking a base with them. Gonna "emulate" the m11x and then see how it fares.

As comparison, with i7-720qm and 230m it starts out at 60fps and goes as low as 10fps during the replay! ON MEDIUM SETTINGS! hehehehe

 

wth? good thing for the beta... that thing needs to be optimized inside and out

 

@eggs
be sure to report all the problems.

 

only problem was no infinite unit selection. I think the cap is at 200, i had to split the lings into 2 groups.

oh and the very easy cpu (only choice! SO INFURIATING) basically does nothing in most games. not much of a comp stomp, its very disappointing.

 

When I get my m11x the first thing I'm gonna do is run this replay that I created in Starcraft 2. I was gonna wait until it got to full bitrate but youtube is being extra slow so here ya go anyway. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfl279o_Cko

 

It seems like they have tested with oc'd m11x.

Can anyone tell me if anno1404 vs sc2 performance is comparable?

Notebookcheck has 32fps avg for anno in m11x.

However, I'm a little bit worried:

Are a ton of units are more gpu bound than cpu bound?

 

M11x Review from Norway translated by Google

http://translate.google.com/transla...w.hardware.no/artikler/alienware_m11x/74923/1

 

since the benchmark thread is getting rather dicey, i'll post this here:

Batboy, if you're there, could you clarify about the benchmark thread? Your first post says benchmark questions are fine, and anything related to benchmarks is fine.

The second post says then that no posts, unless it has a benchmark, or you'll get an infraction.

I'm confused, which is it? My post that was about benchmarks I had hoped someone would do got deleted, while three posts are still there that say the same type of thing.

 

Ha, this guy benchmarks the m11x with 3Dmark2001...

 

nice find

look at the crysis benchmark

http://translate.google.com/transla...w.hardware.no/artikler/alienware_m11x/74923/1

an avg around 23fps on HIGH.

 

I'm leaving the same warning in here that I left in the M11x Arrival thread - stay on-topic. I will start giving out infractions to those who start chit-chatting about nonsense. You know it's against the rules and bad forum etiquette.

Go to the Side Topics forum for that stuff, which I created specifically for chatting. Thank you.

 

That's at 800x600 :/

 

just a very premature update on very brief benchmarks as of right now

overclocked at 1.73

Crysis - All high with anti turned off. Very beginning of the first stage fps was around 16-20. I played up until the first battle.

All medium with anti turned off same situation fps was around 26-40.

LFD2 - All high with anti turned to 2x i believe ran 30

Mass Effect - Max settings with anti turned off ran in the 30s

The Sims 3 - Max Settings was in the 40s, the game felt slowish tho

Dragon Age Origins - Max Settings was in the 20s to low 30s ( was slow whenever you initiated and got out of a convo)

Borderlands on all high with glare, shadowing turned off ran 35-50

 

Can you post screenies cottabe! thanks ... o_-

 

You are right in general, it is just particular to my situation I get upset seeing the lack of performance because I was trying to save a few bucks and get away with keeping 11x instead of getting a Sony Z which is basically same size as 11x (Z is 1" extra width, 11x is 1" extra depth) only bigger screen and lighter by a pound and a half. This class of performance/size is limited to these 2 laptops alone though and the Z will perform better but you can't save money because base config comes with SSD and other stuff that causes base price to be $1899. I just get really stressed out about spending money these days, i'm trying my best to keep saving but it looks like i'm going to have to pony up for the Z the more that I read about the 11x now that it is getting in users hands.

The PCmark Vantage score of 2800ish was particularly disappointing because the Z is scoring 10,000 by comparison. I think you might be right though I might have just been expecting too much out of m11x

 

wow left 4 dead 2 ran a lot better than i thought it would. are you sure it stayed in that range?

 

@abused bunny
lemme go back into the game and try at a more intense area

yea sorry my bad i guess i remembered incorrectly

i ran the game again at dark swamp last chapter

fps was all over the place mostly staying around 30 fps but def playable. once in a while it rose to the 40s and intense action dropped in mid 20s.

 

Yes, because the Z is a much more powerful laptop. There's no comparison, especially between the processor. The only advantage the m11x will have is in gaming, and just how much of an advantage remains to be seen. It's still all speculation.

 

I like the m11x for what it is. And the fact that it's basically a netbook in terms of form factor, and can run Crysis on medium is good enough for me.

I'll mostly be using this thing for WoW anyway, and it's pretty much going to max that.

 

from what i know the Z has an amazing processor but a weaker graphics card. it really depends on how the game is optimized for the gpu in most cases.
and oh noes its furyagain...

 

@bluehaze013

I understand where you are coming from. I want the best performance too, but I have a desktop at home for that very purpose. I spent MORE than what the Sony Z will ever cost plus blood and sweat into building it. I bought the m11x cause it was cheap and it was the little guy I was always looking for to take on trips. It was perfect. My desktop is a modified Antec 1200, watercooled with 3 radiators, I can't move that thing across the room without draining it, hell it sits on a fish tank stand because I don't trust traditional desks to hold it up. I think you should be very proud of your purchase. The Sony Z does look good, but I find the price to be an insult to my desktop and I take it personally when people think the Sony Z is the second coming of Christ.

EDIT: Here's my desktop, now you tell me that at $2000 (including Watercooling) it doesn't completely trash the the hell out of Sony Z. I just find it very insulting that they are charging so much for so little really. M11x to me is one of the most brilliant ideas a company has ever came out with and with a price tag that's not impossible to reach.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/SSPuffer/AngledShot.jpg

 

And that the Z is 1.5" bigger in screen size and is $1,000 more in base spec price.

The Z isn't a netbook competitor. The M11x is.

 

4221 frames, 158259 ms, min 0 (lol), max 61, avg 28.671
left 4 dead dark carnival 2nd stage

 

wow that minimum 0 really facks up the average

 

Was that with 2x AA?

 

May i ask for resident evil 5 benchmark?

http://go.notebookreview.com/?id=52...ile.x/14772/Resident+Evil+5+Benchmark+Version

 

I fully disagree with this, but it's just semantics.

The Z is thinner and lighter than the m11x.

You can also argue the m11x is not a netbook competitor, because netbooks are meant for internet use and not gaming. Thus the m11x becomes something else.

Can you not compare a 10.1 inch screen laptop to a 11.6 inch one? Of course you can. Same for the 11.6 to 13.1 of the Z. They're all ultraportable, thin, and light.

It's when you move above 13'' screen sizes that comparison no longer becomes available, because there aren't many 14 and 15 inch laptops focusing on portability over power. You can't just get hung up on screen size. You have to consider what the laptop was designed for.

 

Pretty sure it's gonna be worse in games too, I was really hoping it would be better and did a bunch of research the other day not gonna repost it all again as to not get the thread off topic. It's all good though mine will be here probably Monday I will play with it then and see how I feel about it can't get Z for another couple weeks anyways so no sense getting ahead of myself.

Cheers mate.

 

What HDD do you have? Maybe that 0 is when the game was loading something? I wish this is the case where a SSD truly shines.

 

But yes, the m11x slaughters the Z in terms of price (even though I paid 1,500 because of the SSD). But for me, price is not a concern. I will pay for what suits my needs (and I bought an m11x), I'm only injecting my opinion into the matter like everyone else.

The only way the m11x becomes comparable in price is if you take the Samsung SSD. If you're willing to fork out that much, that's when you need to consider other options, because then the price difference shrinks considerably. I still went with the m11x. AW all the way.

 

yea 2x msaa

tried again, min 15, max 62, avg 28.3

 

and i have the 500 gb hd

downloading the re5 benchmark right now

 

Thanks can't wait ! How the game will run at 1280x720 without AA and without blur

 

It's wider than the M11x, though. It leaves a bigger footprint on your desk.

In terms of use, yes. But in terms of size, it gets very hard to pack a lot of power once you get below 12".

I would compare a 10.1" to an 11.6" (sparingly, but I would do it), but I wouldn't compare an 11.6" to a 13.1/13.3". The new MacBook Pros are 13.3" and I would say they're in the same league as a 14" or even 15".

It might just be personal opinion, but I draw the line between ultraportable/netbook and standard laptop at 13" (having used a 13.3" laptop for three years).

 

I teetered back in forth between getting the Z and the m11x. I paid 1,500 for my m11x, so I wasn't far off from the Z. I think I'll be perfectly happy with what the m11x has to offer, and if not, it can always be returned.

You just gotta do you, man. You seem like you wouldn't be happy not getting the Z, so if I were you, I'd wait it out for the Z.

 

is blur a graphics hog? i would leave it on, makes it look drastically better

 

Nice Heatkiller, why the Delrin though and not the copper? LOL I already have a killer desktop, now I want a killer laptop as well but has to be ultraportable!

 

If you get the chance, try it with AA off. I don't really feel the need to play with AA on since I'd much rather have a higher res with higher FPS than smoother edges.

 

I just got the Orochi today in anticipation to receive my M11x soon!

btw, remember if you are on the fence on getting warranty, Squaretrade has a 30 day window, which is creeping up. For Dell, you can extend your basic warranty any time before your warranty is over. I got the Squaretrade warranty. If you plan on being very mobile with your M11x, you should consider getting a warranty.

 

AA is 2x msaa
filter is bilinear
vertical sync enabled at triple buff
multi disabled
shader is very high

 

Yep that's what everyone tells me LOL I already ordered 11x, just not so excited about it anymore, maybe I change my mind next week when it gets here, if not I just put it up on Ebay I spose. Thanks for helping me cheer up

 

Thanks for the stats so far cottabe, they're appreciated even as preliminary run throughs.

 

you definitely want vertical sync off, thats a must. you also need multi core rendering on,to take advantage of the dual core cpu. I want it to get here already i want to do some tweaking in the control panel.
im almost positive i would be able to double those frame rates...

 

just ran the re5 benchmark on 1280X720 with aa off, blur off
settings on high
directx 10
variable scenes
42.7 fps with a grade of B
63.3 scene 1, 37.9, 37.4, 39.3 for the other scenes

 

cottabe ! you made me happy !!

Thanks !!!!

Can't wait to get mine m11x !

 

Cottabe
Can you run l4d2 with multi core turned on a vsync off
And play online... would rather see fps of online play instead of the cpu chocking on ai path finding XD

 

43fps i great. i would run it on directx9, most people can hardly tell the difference....
i think a few of us are gonna have to write a tweaking guide for this machine.