*OFFICIAL* M11x Owners Lounge - Part 3

# Height: 32.7mm (1.29 inches)
# Width: 285.7mm (11.25 inches)
# Depth: 233.3mm (9.19 inches)

 

I know how you feel I'm the same, i have exams every day next week so not joy for me at all. Think i will just open it, check it maybe see if the OC causes death and then leave it til Friday, ahh, so s***y for me.

 

He's talking about the screen, not the entire laptop. The screen is noticeably smaller than the lid.

 

doesnt work, send it back. You have to be aggressive in this world. last resort...... put your mom on the phone!

 

but a 11.6 inch screen protector will definitely not the ideal type for aw m11x. need to find some bigger screen protector and crop it urself.

 

Well - I don't have mine yet.. - but screen on the 11z is 10 1/8" x 5 3/4" - with same resolution / type as the M11x (1366x768 / WLED)

In fact, there's a LOT of similarities between the 11z and the M11x - keyboard looks identical, with exception of lighting / Video card (integrated) / Processor (SU4100).

If anyone's interested - I'll post comparative pics of mini 10v vs. 11z vs. M11x next week when I receive my unit ...

 

Yep perfectly fine at stock 1.3ghz

I need to find a usb to do that memory test. Can I do it with a Camera memory stick or like a usb card reader with a sd card in it

 

yes interested. pls post some pictures of the comparison among these netbooks.

 

Right this is weird I just played GTA on it overclocked for about 20 mins all fine maxed out I go off it to check the cpu percetage its at 85% so then I go on the heat testing app and it goes not responding then the whole laptop freezes and I have to restart it.

Is this a sign of a bad bit of ram then? I gotta do that test

 

oh my lord.. what happened to ur m11x.. omg >.<
i really hope the others wont be facing such problems.

 

Homebrewer, heres what you do:

Call returns again, tell them that you were sold on this laptop by the sales rep telling you that you could overclock it. that "you were on the fence because of the CPU speed, and the rep told you it can OC to 1.73ghz" and that you bought it on this advertised ability.

Now the laptop is not functioning as it was advertised to you. Look into some business complaint agencies in your area (We have the BBB, not sure what UK has) and tell the Dell rep that if he can't correct this that you need to talk to his/her supervisor. Tell the supervisor that if they cannot exchange or return your system that you will be filing complaints with whatever agencies you can.

ALTERNATIVELY:

You can tell them it is having all the BSoD problems and never mention that it is OCed. If they ask simply reply "I'm not sure what OC is..."

Either way I would escalate your issue to a supervisor, make a big deal about it, and WRITE DOWN NAMES OF EVERYONE YOU TALK TO and TIME OF DAY/DATE

ASK EVERYONE FOR THEIR DELL REP # AND NAME, ask them to spell it out for you if its a weird one, you will almost never get hung up on if you get that information right off the bat.

 

Wait what? So this thing will die if OCed?

 

awesome unboxing video, I hope you figure things out man..

 

@ h0M3bReW3r:

RAM is 1066MHz, so it shouldn't be issue...
It maybe chipset or CPU that can't handle 1066MHz.
If it is the CPU, you could try to use RMclock. But instead of doing undervolting, try to apply a little more voltage. The smallest increase you can.
I never used the program, but i suppose you can do that.
If it was a desktop BIOS would do the trick, but in a laptop you could try that.
I wish i had the money to buy one of these... Alienware isn't for sale in Portugal yet... F***

 

the more you talk of your plight, the more it sounds like a memory issue.. if you can't get memtest 86 burned to a bootdisk, try running intel burn test. a little more bloated, but it will run in windows. if it fails, ya might need to pop one of the sticks out to narrow it down to which stick is bad. sorry for all the trouble I feel for you

 

I'm making a bootable usb now

 

Be careful. 3rd party overclock utils will void the warranty. I think Darkhan posted something about this a while back.

 

@h0M3bReW3r Sorry man. This has to suck big time.....

 

I know it voids warranty. But a small increase won't burn the laptop. He should restore defaults after. It's just an idea to see if it is the CPU that can't handle OC...

Edit: I never saw RAM that wouldn't work at default speed, and worked at lower speed... My guess is CPU voltage or chipset issues

Edit 2: send me your M11x and i will send you back my laptop (T2370, SIS graphics )

 

Someone who isn't experienced with vcore adjustments should stay away from a program like that. A digit out or too much of an increase could fry your CPU. But I'm not disagreeing with you though, it's quite possible that this chip needs a bit more vcore for a stable OC.

The following screenshot is what I want to see from an M11x owner (this screenshot came from the factory overclocked Asus UL50VT). If no one can confirm through CPU-Z that the M11x clocks to 1.73GHz, I won't be buying it. I would be very disappointed with AW if the multiplier was "locked" on the M11x to 6.0x with vcore reduced.

 

I hope that some one will be able to provide that screen shot for us, mine is arriving next week, so till I receive it hopefully other people will post.

 

Another thing i would try would be to boot a USB linux distro and stress the computer just to see if it crashes.

From wikipedia:
Intel SU7300 default voltage: 1.05-1.15 V

 

So...just using by with windows experience index, my desktop is 4.7, while homebrewers m11x is 4.6 or something? What a fail desktop.

 

Its got worst now can't even get to the desktop, glad as it cam go now for a replacement or maybe if I complain so much I'll get a fully spected M17z

 

KK yours is in trouble my friend it must go back, I hope it all works out for you and thanks alot for the youtube vid i really appreciated it.

 

damn man, can't get to desktop only b/c of Bios OC on?

 

I think its not the ram but the cpu is naff

 

you got some serious force behind you h0M3bReW3r, get a manager on the phone and let em have it... make sure they know you are the first person reviewing this model on NBR forums and have alot of people really worried about the build quality of this machine! make em nervous! remind them that online tech news generates there leads from NBR and will notice if the first unit out the door is defective and not set right!!!

 

Sorry to hear that your M11x is nowhere near expected, h0M3bReW3r. Hope Dell gets their s**t together and sorts your lappie out. (Lol it got filtered. XD)

Now worried as to what my M11x will be like...

 

Yikes, be nice to hear more feeback from others. This would not be the first time the prototypes are better quality than mass production builds. I will get a warranty for theM11x, since our luck is a hockey stick curve for reliability that changes sudden direction after one year

 

If you can get it to load at least to the desktop you can queue the inbuilt Windows Memory Diagnostic to run on restart. Just type "Windows Memory Diagnostic" into the start menu search bar and check out what I mean. No need to DL MemTest.

 

Ok so confirm it is CPU with these couple easy tests. You have to have used Memtest86 or something similar first though, to confirm it is not ram.

First, grab Prime95, google it, it is free, small, and runs in Windows.

Turn OC on, GPU off, run prime95, if it is the CPU it should crash out in less than a minute.

Next test would be to turn OC off, gpu off, and run P95 again, now see what the temps max at.

If you do both of these and the system crashes when OCed then you know it is the CPU, if it gets exceptionally hot when not OCed, then it is likely the thermal paste or installation of the CPU is the specific problem. If it does not heat up when not OCed then your CPU simply cant handle the higher clock.

I want to say again NO ONE IS GUARANTEED A 1.73 OVERCLOCK, DON'T BUY THE LAPTOP IF YOU WOULDN'T WANT IT WITHOUT THE OC!

 

problem is he can't even keep it stable with a 1.6 GHz OC (which again points to memory IMHO)

 

Yoda is right, only thing we're guaranteed is a 1.3Ghz processor that works.. OC'ing is just a bonus.

 

Doing the memory test now guys

Yeah but the reason I got this was when I read it could be overclocked to 1.7 in that review is anybody actually gonna want this at a stock 1.3?

 

Absolutely noone will, and Dell knows this, I'm sure.

Mine is going back if it can't OC. Since it is a dell, I'm sure it will have at least one issue that allows for a no restock fee return, whether they care about 1.7 OC or not..

 

Yeah if it happens to you then you can just pull down the plastic covering the screen its quite filmsy

 

Everyone needs to notice that the M11X is volted at 0.900 while the Asus was volted at 1.038 volts. This suggests any problems with OCing can probably be fixed by adjusting voltage (since asus advertises and overclocks every one of their laptops, they got it to near 100% success at that voltage). I am sure some program or method to change voltage will be found soon.

In real world terms it is mere seconds, maybe 5 fps max, the 300 Mhz OC is more of a mental thing than anything else. I run a deskptop with a 1.5 ghz OC and I can turn the overclock off and not really tell a whole lot, maybe a few seconds here or there.

 

I am fine with it at 1.3, it will still run everything the same as at 1.6 or 1.73.

 

Well mw2 runs at 23/24fps without overclock so no its not playable and not at the advertised "30"

 

With all the fun I've had overclocking my desktop i7 920 and Asus Rampage II ROG board, I can safely say this sounds like a RAM problem.

I tried 3 brands of RAM before I settled on the Kingston HyperX sticks. OCZ and Corsair did not deliver the goods, for various reasons (voltage, timings,cracked heat spreader etc).

With the SU7300 generation of CPU being very mature in the die fabrication process, it is *highly unlikely* that this processor is a dud. Fabrication yields should be very good with low failure rates. Mature silicon.

Unlike the early stepping i7 920's (like mine) which do require some extra tweaking and volt modding to get decent overclocks.

Perhaps your CPU does need some extra volts. This is not something unheard of.

Easiest way forward here is what others have already said. Run some tests on the RAM. Memtest should suffice, and will report any issues.

/holding thumbs you come right @homebrewer.

 

I will buy it. If it can OC....
If default voltage is 0.900, then Dell undervolted it by default.... An undervolted overclocked CPU?
If voltage is raised to its normal values, can we assume it still is in waranty?
Can anyone confirm if RAM timings in OC mode are defaults? Or are they also OCed?

 

What settings though? You need to disable AA and AF, as they are gonna be the biggest performance eaters for a machine like this.

 

This really isn't accurate, and once I get mine I will run a game with it OC on and OC off to show the FPS difference. Guaranteed less than 5 FPS difference on pretty much any game, probably like 1 or 2 on most games.

 

Its at normal, without any fancy stuff

Also I'm sure if you not just gaming you would rather have a faster processor if your photoshopping etc

 

Depends on what you are doing

If playing MAME or PCSX2, makes a big difference

If the M11x had a 210m, or lower you would be correct too, since gpu would be bottleneck at 1.3ghz. M11x with 335m would use the 437mhz or 300 if lower multiplier. HH's review shows it makes a big difference.

If the M11x can not be clocked reliably like the 30vt, I might as well get the vt, since emulators will be my main use anyways.

 

Now im sort of glad i ordered my system 2 weeks later, if everybody returns their M11x, im going to cancel my order. i wonder if the same problems will occur with the SU4100.

 

OC since +6 hrs now, with 335m on but no gaming, just viewing some HD trailors and converting videos+some photoshop

everything goes fine, it is totally silent, and the temperature remains very cool (no mesure though)

 

i usually just read the forums and just enjoy the info. However, I am a bit lost on why YOU are even on this forum with all your negative comments? I understand you LOVE your samsung laptop with the nvidia 330m. But really, can you just shut up and stop trolling. GG

 

WIndows memory just finished no errors at all. so the rams out of the question now. I'll do the prime test thing