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    *OFFICIAL* M11x Owners Lounge - Part 3

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by steveninspokane, Feb 2, 2010.

  1. YodaGoneMad

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    In your case perhaps this is true, but for all modern games, from SC2 to Left for Dead 2 the few hundred mhz is not anything amazing. Even the HH only did synthetic benchmarks with the OC on, in the real world it doesn't matter much.

    Now I am not gonna lie and say I wouldn't care if mine couldn't OC, I would care, but I am prepared for the possibility that it might not, and I want the M11X either way. If you are not in a similar state of mind you probably shouldn't get the M11X.
     
  2. Largosama

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    Please dont start another fury war. :(
     
  3. YodaGoneMad

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    Haha he has been trolling ever since it was first announced. Every laptop needs a resident troll, he's ours.

    I await with great anticipation. You OCed now or no?
     
  4. ruigui

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    @ h0M3bReW3r:

    Have you reinstaled windows and/or tried to update it and drivers too? I really don't trust preinstalled OSes...
    It would be great to find that your hardware isn't faulty. But that issue with display... :(
     
  5. klas

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    i would just not pay attention to him, sounds like he is trying to justify his purchase and probably playing a victory song as we speak on this whole OC fiasco with m11x.
     
  6. robamb2002

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    @truciet, while I agree with your statement, please don't feed the troll. he goes away if you ignore him. seriously.

    @virtuehero, I'm glad to hear your experience is going well! that is heartening! is your system OCed at 1.6 or 1.73?
     
  7. YodaGoneMad

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    Yea he is full of it. No point in arguing till we get some benchmarks to blow him outta the water.
     
  8. ceolwulf

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCLIg6WT7zM
     
  9. rpg-XPS

    rpg-XPS Notebook Evangelist

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    Exactly, it's ridiculous. We need some AW confirmation in here ASAP. Not only is it an undervolted overclocked CPU, but they lowered the multiplier from 6.5x to 6x also. Maybe this is why they get such good battery life... worrying stuff.
     
  10. BigCTM

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    The CW series has its share of issues too. I have read about several people having BSOD issues and having to return them.

     
  11. tuxblondinet

    tuxblondinet Notebook Consultant

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    Hum !

    People seems to forget something there is only one guy reporting an overclock problem on the M11x it is bad for him but it is something we should find in every M11x

    Waiting for other people getting their M11x and testing overclock :D
     
  12. ahanslot

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    i am a student usign most of the adobe creative suite 4 package does the software run smoothly/fast/no crashes?
     
  13. teflonsheep

    teflonsheep Notebook Consultant

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    So by your logic the fact that it comes with USB ports doesn't guarantee that a mouse will work if plugged in to one of them?
     
  14. SilverJester

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    @virtuehero: Glad to see you have no OC problems. What is your screen (and for that matter the rest of the build quaility) like? Do you have that small gap at the top that h0M3bReW3r has? Anyway you could try some sort of stress test or game to make sure it doesn't crash when OC'd?
     
  15. ashodd

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    its been stated on the HH forum (the guy who reviewed it) that the OC had the difference between 30fps on medium setting on crysis warhead and 25fp with no oc. i too do not expect to oc it but it does make the difference with modern games.
     
  16. h0M3bReW3r

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    Yeah run prime95
     
  17. ruigui

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    Once again, not all CPUs undervolt/overclock the same. Maybe that's the issue here. Hopefully...
    Still i'd like someone to confirm RAM timings in OC mode, and if multiplier is 6.0x or 6.5x. Didin't get that yet.
    One more question: is 335m at default speed/voltage?
     
  18. Neurowebby

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    h0M3bReW3r, I would be really interested to see how 3d Mark runs on your machine. OCed and not OCed.
     
  19. YodaGoneMad

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    They don't advertise the overclocking.
     
  20. Im_so_short

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    Would it be crazy to assume that the OC problems and screen issues could be linked? Maybe it was dropped, could that not be a possible cause for causing both issues. I really don't know. However putting the fate of the M11x down to this one laptop is silly. As far as I am aware this is still the only reported incident.
    JUST TAKE A DEEP BREATH, AND NOW RELAX
     
  21. BigCTM

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    Maybe it's just me and I am a pretty big pc gamer but I never overclock and honestly have never needed to. I try to make sure that the system I purchase is as cutting edge as possible with its components. By doing this, no overclocking is needed. When it starts to shows its age, I do the same thing again.

    Having said that, I would never purchase the M11X with the purpose of playing the latest games. Maybe it's just me but I would either use a desktop or purchase another laptop with a more powerful CPU and GPU.

    I have purchased the M11X but it's mainly to use as a netbook and to play more casual or older games like Torchlight or Titan's Quest. I will leave the cutting edge stuff for my desktop.
     
  22. h0M3bReW3r

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    your right, theres a huge difference
     
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    It's a bios option, what if usb boot didn't work? Would that be okay? Sorry, if the option exists, its functionality needs to be guaranteed as far as i'm concerned.
     
  25. ceolwulf

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    I would assume that any software or feature they specifically install would be covered under warranty.

    A car manufacturer can't give you a trunk full of N2O and a big red button to use it and at the same time tell you that if you do, you void your warranty. Me changing a basic setting in the BIOS should not void my warranty the same way that cracking open my laptop and switching out the processor does.
     
  26. mas3

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    That doesnt work. If you have a USB port, you use it. If you have a CPU, you use it, but you dont NEED to overclock it to use it.
     
  27. klas

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    We can't base any real conclusions on one user experience with OC. Also, consider an overclock functionality as a bonus, so even if it's the case I will not lose sleep over it. m11x still a wonderful machine regardless of OC functionality.
     
  28. rushmore

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    I can say that I am buying the M11x because it is compact, good gpu AND it is supposed to be able to overclock. All three points are mutually inclusive :)

    Mine is waiting on power supplies (like 5 to 10 thousand others), so should have time to figure if clocking is a fluke bonus or a standard option ;)

    My hope is the first person to get one and video is an unfortunate fluke and everyone else will be fine. I want the M11x as long as overclocking is a go and not a no :)
     
  29. kelchy

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    I agree. The M11x will be my main system...but I have never been a big PC gamer. I just like the system for it's portability and wanted something that could handle Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 when it comes out.

    My mindset is a great mid-level system in a small form-factor, so I think I will be happy with it (if it has no issues).
     
  30. robamb2002

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    guys seriously, if you want to debate take it to the general forums and keep it out of the owners lounge... If you have not purchased and have no intention of purchasing the m11x, then you have no business being in the owners lounge. start a thread somewhere else and ignore any trolling or it will go on for pages.... again

    back on subject: I doubt homebrewer is in any shape to run benchies today, perhaps we can find another owner who is running smoothly to take some time to quench our needs!! :D
     
  31. The_A33a33in

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    @Teflon

    Your logic is wrong, kind sir. Cars are advertised and have the option to go over 120 mph. Do you want to drive at that speed? No.

    OC is an extra option, does not void your warranty, but is not a guarranty.
     
  32. tuxblondinet

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    In page 115 and before there is a guy cottabe who benchmark the beast at overclock speed : 1,73 Ghz
     
  33. SilverJester

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    You obviously haven't read about the Nissan GTR and it's launch control lol. But yeah, I expect the OC to work if included with the system and be covered under warranty. I doubt that most of the reps you talk will know that the OC feature even exist and just assume you mean you OC'd with some third party software.
     
  34. The_A33a33in

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    @home

    My suggestion is for you to keep bugging the Dell reps. Basically you had a dead on arrival system and need to clarify to them you are seeking public help. Having the reps more involved will ease the replacement procedure.
     
  35. yzc

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    Initial test with 3DMarks06 test score...not bad..
     

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    @robamb2002, I am more concerned at why you need 12gb in a rig... can you play Crysis or GTA4 at 60fps now? ;)
     
  37. ceolwulf

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    I think you meant me. :p But if I activate OC and it messes up my M11x, it should be covered. A couple of posters have expressed beliefs that Dell would not cover an overclock option they added in the first place.

    And if my car at stock goes over 120 MPH (which it's advertised as doing), and my transmission fries when I hit 121, you know damn well I want that covered.
    Oh I know about the GTR's launch control XD and Nissan is having a storm hit them because the car is slow without it but they don't cover any damage if you use it all the time. They're even taking it off of the 2010 models, I hear.
     
  38. ceolwulf

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    Huzzah, "CPU Speed: 1733 MHz"
     
  39. h0M3bReW3r

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    @ ceolwulf:
    yea, it is whatever it program report...
     
  41. jonjonk

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    THAT just made my day. Soo funny.
    You: So what's this big red button?
    Manufacturer: Gives you nitrous SUPPPPPER SPEEEED
    You: Oh heeeeeeellllllz yea!!!!
    *2hrs later*
    You: My car just blew up...
    Manufactuer: Not my problem. Your on your own, bud.
     
  42. projectgsx

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    According to the Consumer Reports article I read, a failure rate of 20-22% is typical on laptops. I dont remember if that was over a time period or at point of sale, though. All of the major manufacturers had similar rates because they all buy components from the same group of supplies and all have their units assembled by the same ODMs.
     
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    guys all I know is... I bought the m11x because it is ONE sexy alien beast. It looks so sick... and it's small form factor is what attracted me to it. And I figure, it can play games at a decent frame rate which is an added bonus... maybe I'm just too easy to please
     
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    @yzc: now THATS what we've been waiting for! (yay for the 1.73 GHz)

    @rushmore: lol its for my own nefarious purposes mwahahahah... seriously though I got it wicked cheap and I like to have a few virtualpc's open (for downloading/browsing/testing/etc.) while gaming :)
     
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    Did you test it with the stock 1.3GHz speed yet?
     
  46. yzc

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    no... with OC option
     
  47. KoukiFC3S

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    They advertise it as 6100+ 3dmark06 stock. Im surprised the OC only gives an extra 100 points.
     
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    Can you give a link to the score on futuremark please? What res is that at? 1286x768?
     
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    @YZC Thanks ! You clarify all the situation !

    You can do some benchs for us ? :) Resident Evil 5, ... +
     
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    @homebrew
    Did you run MemTest for several passes? 1 pass is not enough to test stability in my opinion. When I was testing some ram I bought for my old desktop pc, it ran fine for a pass (maybe 2), but I left it on for 12 hours and it showed me some errors.
     
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