*OFFICIAL* M11x Owners Lounge - Part 3

which is like 1% performance increase

 

OCing is nice but really if anyone is worried about frame rates you are going to tweak settings which will result in more FPS gain than a minimal OC on a CULV CPU. Maybe I'm just different but I rarely use anti-aliasing since I can't even tell if it is on usually. I have a 24" 1920*1200 LCD for my desktop and frequently use lower resolutions(say 1280*800) just because I like the smooth feeler and can't tell THAT much difference than max resolution. I don't need max graphics to enjoy a game. I still play old games like Doom 2 in 640*480 resolution for instance.

 

@RAQemUP: agreed... if I'm in a hurry while testing a system, I will let it run through at least 10 cycles. overnight is better.

 

I don't care now had enough messing around its going back getting a replacement its back in its box ready to go

 

Did anybody get the SU4100? is it worth the extra 100 bucks to get the SU7300? I mean, is the 1mb of cache worth it?

 

prolly for the best homebrewer. let them deal with the headache! one day outta the factory and its a dud... bah!

heres hoping you get it replaced ASAP!

 

@ZZ9 - there's a part of the thread that discussed differences between the SU4100 and the SU7300 processors. One of the biggest differences is Virtualization... the 1MB cache isn't going to do much in the way of fps if that's what you are referring to... but some report it to be more stable at a higher OC... say 2GHz I think that's what was said before but no one has tested that as of yet.

here's a link to previous thread about it:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=5854297

 

Where is Eggs Scrambled? We had this discussion previously LOL It probably actually gives more though there are scores of 5800 3dmarks in the other review so it seems like 5800 3dmarksis probably @1.3 and the 6100 is probably OC to 1.73.

 

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don't give up so easily man. I've bsod plenty of times OCing my desktop only to find out it was a bad ram stick. Just run memtest overnight. If it's the ram, they'll send you replacements.

 

I wish ya the best homebrewer. Hopefully the next one will play nice.
I also got the M11x with plan to overclock it when needed. I plan to run it stock with everything that runs fine but OC when the games demand it.

 

can anyone give an estimate how much the LED lights affect battery life?

 

Thanks robamb hope yours works fine and you get a oc'able processor

 

Lack of SSE instruction set is also an issue IF you play NullDC or PCSX2 emulators. If not, no harm, no foul

 

Ah, ok, well... Do you think that a SU4100 has a good chance of running stably at 1.6 or 1.73 then, whichever it actually is?

 

I think that if you can afford the extra $100 for the SU7300 go for it... It certainly won't hurt but then again you could probably do a better RAM upgrade or a better HDD for that difference as well and be good.

 

@ZZ9- I think it was also mentioned that both processors have the capability to be overclocked to the same MHz... the only thing is that since we are getting kind of mixed reviews from some of our new owner's on the whole OC issue, it may or may not be stable. Has anyone gotten the SU4100 processor with theirs? I personally went with the SU7300...

 

Darkhan, can you please put an end to this madness, and just give use 2 screen shots from CPU-Z, one OC'ed (with a video working on a background) and one none Oc'ed.

 

I did find out I had one with stocked speed 1.3GHz test result...(had to get it from online account at futuremark.com.

 

BTW homebrewer, which cpu did you have?

@darkamikaze
I believe that is a hard question to answer as everyone should be having the LED backlight LCDs, hence no nonLED LCD M11x to compare it to. Also, isn't the LED backlight supposed to be more energy effecient then previous backlighting methods? So the battery life should be better with it then a M11x that does not have it.

 

+1

This is urgently needed. There is a reason all overclockers use CPU-Z to verify the CPU speed. Windows and 3DMark are not definitive sources.

 

That's a pretty significant difference!

Thanks for the screenies.

 

Can you post a link to the scores on the orb please? What resolution are these? 1280x768?

 

No thanks, I'll buy it anyways and I will return it if it cannot do what the models they sent out to review sites can do. I dont care what the fine print says.

 

It's your 15% restocking, I certainly don't care.

Then it isn't your CPU, or your ram, so it is some other strange problem, prolly just a lemon mobo, nothing to do with OCing or anything.

 

Does anybody think this may be a UK thing or Europe thing where these processors cannot be overclocked or is that out of the question. This could ease me a bit.

 

I checked it. yes it is 1280x768

 

OK Thanks, that is good to know.

 

Under windows system it shows su7300@1,3 1.73 However even with video playing in background CPUZ shows core speed 1600 Multiplier x6.0 Bus speed 266.7 rated FSB 1066.7

 

so does that mean it is undervolted?

 

Run Prime95 in the background and see if it ups the speed. Windows should show the right speed. It captures speed at initialization, and is right almost all the time in my tests.

 

Can not speak for others, but the US has a 21 day return policy. If mine has clock issues, it is going back as not working properly. Simple

I think that Home's got a bad unit and everyone should be fine with 1.73ghz and the fact that the 7300 is a MATURE cpu and a proven HIGH operational ceiling supports my view. Though what my view really is, I am not sure of

Going to get some Thai and beer now

 

i went with the SU4100 based because i felt like saving $100.
i just didnt feel the difference was worth $100 and i dont use VT.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmarklist.2436.0.html

i also found that Pentium Dual Cores and C2Ds are made 95% identical, the other 5% reserve to C2D processor has higher L2 Cache size, (which is just 1mb more than the SU4100 2mb)
http://expertester.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/core-2-duo-vs-pentium-dual-core/

i am also waiting to see if the cpu is soldered in, if its not, we can buy a way better cpu for a $100 than the SU7300.

 

That's not good. It looks like the multiplier is limiting the OC. A video playing in the background is sufficient to engage the CPU full speed. Can you confirm the voltage of the CPU?

With OC off, would you mind telling us the core speed, multiplier and voltage from CPU-Z?

I'd (and I'm sure others would too) be very grateful.

 

@DEEJster - The CPU is soldered in... you're not going to be able to upgrade this one

 

Trust me, there is ZERO chance I will pay a restocking fee. No Dell I've ever owned is perfect, there is always a 100% legit return reason.

I'd much prefer it just work properly from the start though.

 

@taco - thanks dude, that sucks for ALL of us

 

woah so many pages have gone by.. ? am i seeing this correctly and none of the new owners are able to OC properly??

 

No, just one person is having severe issues. Everyone else is seeing just a little oddness in the voltage that means they seem to hit 1.6 and not 1.73. Much more minor issue IMO.

 

So far I think only 1 person is having a problem overclocking and everyone else is worried. Patience, guys, we'll get a bigger pool of owners in a week or so.

 

Even if it wasn't soldered I believe the main option (as an upgrade) would be an SU9600 (same socket and heat), and good luck getting one of those for a hundo...

 

alright, enough of this OC nonsense, that's not a primary thing for this laptop. How about battery life, especially the ones who got SSD drives?

 

I want to see when others are getting theres if theres any problems, I think mine was just rushed. I'll be getting a replacement its a really nice machine, just wish it wasn't a paper weight for me lol

 

if you resign up on dell epp site you can get another 50.00 coupon

 

Mine is due on Monday but I have exams all week so i was gonna leave it in its box, but i have to open it now, can i really leave this thing in a box for a week.

 

Prime running still 1.6

 

So bad...:'(

 

It is minor I agree, but it's still 10% less power than most people expected OC'd. We need a few more machines to confirm for sure, but we've already had three M11x's report a speed of 1.6GHz while OC'd, hence a lot of people's concern. Also just to clarify, the problem is the voltage and the multiplier.

 

It seems that the few previews on the internet about it going to 1.6Ghz was correct and that this machine can not OC to 1.73Ghz. That sucks, I guess 1.6Ghz is better then nothing.

 

Can't set multiplier? and voltage? manualy?

 

Understood - I just have much less of an issue with this personally (I can understand those who would be upset or at least bothered though), while I'd like to see 1.73, so long as the 'OC Button' in the bios allows us to OC instead of allowing us to BSOD, I'm going to be happy.

I do think if this was intentional they should have disclosed the non standard setup though while describing the CPU.