*OFFICIAL* M11x Owners Lounge - Part 3

Ok I am almost tired of this OCing issue and the "omg it doesnt reach 1.73"

I would just be interested in seeing some benchmarks with some modern games out on the market right now. I bought this system to moderately game on the go and I would just like to know the fps rates on the different settings levels on the different current games. Thats all.

games interested in knowing about:

MW2
WoW (in middle of dalaran)
Aion
L4D2
ME2
Bad company2
Crysis
starcraft 2

Can someone please post their results for these!? Please!!!!!

*edit*- I know some of these have been benchmarked already, but I would like confirmation from YOU GUYS.

 

Can you physically unscrew and take the battery out?

 

Yeah, take off the back panel, and the battery unplugs and can be easily replaced when needed.

 

Nope, I do however expect hardware to work as advertised. The problem is, the m11x brought a whole new crowd to AW, the kind of people who aren't pc enthusiasts and will tolerate this kind of crap. Then they'll stand on their moral high ground and denounce those who won't, because it's "good enough." Thus is the state of AW since Dell took them over. Thus is the reason ill probably never order another AW product again (they became too much of a mass market corporate entity and forgot the reasons pc enthusiasts like myself bought their products to begin with). And yeah, I went there.

Don't tell me to get real. I'll take my money to a company that delivers a product that doesn't just look nice, but actually works (read: the R2 m17x still does not function correctly because dell ed the stock bios up, and now they can't get a simple OC right). You can't even show the slightest disappointment over a legitimate and completely stupid issue, because you're mauled with snide comments and blatant fanboyism. Whatever.

Good luck. Ciao. Peace.

 

It's advertised @ 1.3 GHz.

 

No! really?? Are you sure?

 

lol that is very true. Aw never advertised it to OC to 1.73 or even OC at all, only reps did and we bought it. Even though AW may have planned to have an OC of 1.73, it's obviously not there yet. They probably want to get units into people's possessions and see if heat is an issue and then do a bios update later.

 

Hey! The M11x will not clock at 1.73ghz?!?! When did this come about?!

It is an issue, actually. Asus can clock a non-gaming 30vt to 1.73ghz out of the box, but AW can't with a gaming laptop that comes at a premium price for this segment of devices? Sorry, but it is an issue. I would not have considered the M11x if it could not be overclocked. The 1.6 vs 1.73 seems silly if the M11x used the 210/310m, but it does not. It uses the 335m and would take what an i5-530 has and still not be bottlenecked. So yes, for the third time- it IS an issue for a premium priced "gaming" device.

Sure, rubes like me will probably still buy it, but it is dumb-de-dumb to cap it, none the less. Asus is making AW seem like little gurly men

As a matter of fact, Asus could tap into the gaming action too, if they could at least use a 330m instead of a 310m (210m refresh for 2010) in the 30JT.

 

But its a higher-end NETBOOK/ULTRAPORTABLE.

Note quite a laptop, we all can agree that some people are just being ridiculous and unrealistic.

 

I was making a point. What is yours?

 

Overclocking was not advertised.

Nope just the people who expect it to perform as advertised, which it does. 1 person has had a problem with their m11x and it is very unfortunate but it is also the reality of ANY manufacturer of almost anything. Why do you think a warranty is offered?

You haven't even got your m11x yet and have started crying foul because the CPU 'only' overclocks to 1.6ghz not 1.73. It's not hard to believe that in the future either officially or not that more will be squeezed out of this machine and for now, with the numbers the m11x is already producing I am more than happy to wait.

OK so you are saying the m11x has brought a 'whole new crowd' to the AW brand yet now you are insulting them with blatant fanboyism? The reason most other people aren't complaining and whining incessantly is because EVERY other person that has received their m11x is more than satisfied with what they have and have had no issues with the laptop including when OC'd. It performs exactly as it has in the videos, reviews and benchmarks given. The numbers are matching and even improving on what they were demonstrating on the pre-release models. That is why most other people are not concerned.

I suggest you cancel your order, get your refund (same with your m17x) and look elsewhere. It's obvious you have a real chip on your shoulder you will never let go of (I do understand your frustration with previous experience and your m17x but you haven't even touched your m11x yet you've written it off).

 

Oh snap, here we go again. Hey chewie how are the tests coming along?

 

but the price is not a netbook price

 

It is NOT an issue because Dell/AW NEVER TOLD YOU that it would officially overclock at all.

Whining about BONUS features is just silly. It would be an issue if Dell actually said "HAY GUIZE THIS WILL OC TO 1.73GHZ!" but they haven't said that anywhere.

Get over it or return it imo.

 

People who actually have the M11x........from a scale of 1 to 10 how is the quality of the screen?

I'm looking at all these pictures and the screen is washing out on most of them. Reminds me of the crap screens in the 2006 white macbooks.

 

Oh snap indeed. guys can we all cool it. I will post my specs and just say that I will get what I paid for (pending any manufacturing errors/defects, which will be dealt with by Dell anyway):

1 224-9555 Alienware M11x, Cosmic Black $771.60
1 313-9589 Intel Core2 Duo SU7300 1.3GHz (3MB Cache, 800MHz FSB) $0.00
1 317-8954 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 at 1066MHz $0.00
1 421-1597 Alien Red Glyphs $0.00
1 320-9963 11.6-inch WideHD 1366x768 (720p) WLED $0.00
1 320-9857 1GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 335M $0.00
1 342-8742 320GB SATAII 7,200RPM $0.00
1 330-9552 Personalized Nameplate $0.00
1 330-6106 Personalized Nameplate Trigger $0.00
1 313-8791 AlienFX Color, Mars Red $0.00
1 421-8558 Alienware Command Center, M11x $0.00
1 421-1400 Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English $0.00
1 420-9691 DataSafe Local BackUp 2.0 Basic $0.00
1 420-6436 PC-Restore, Dim/Insp $0.00
1 421-0092 DELL-DOWNLOAD-FLAG $0.00
1 421-1587 Alien Red Glyphs $0.00
1 313-9856 Integrated 10/100 Network Interface Card $0.00
1 410-1883 ADOBE READER 9.0 MULTI- LANGUAGE $0.00
1 313-9958 Integrated High-Definition Surround Sound Audio (5.1) $0.00
1 330-6348 Automatic Updates: On $0.00
1 330-8995 1.3 Megapixel Webcam $0.00
1 950-3337 1 Year Limited Warranty $0.00
1 908-3647 Dell Hardware Warranty Plus On-Site Service, Initial Year $0.00
1 922-7060 Third Party At Home Service, 24x7 Technical Support, Initial Year $0.00
1 950-9797 No Warranty, Year 2 and 3 $0.00
1 421-1721 Soft Contracts,Banktec Care,Alienware $0.00
1 994-3730 Warranty Support,Initial Year $0.00
1 421-1360 Steam and Portal Factory Installed $.00
1 430-3773 No Internal WWAN Antenna Installed $.00
1 330-5090 Thank You for Purchasing AlienWare $.00
1 600-0039 State Environmental Fee for display less than 15 inches $8.00

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Sub-Total : $771.60
Shipping : $16.00
Tax : $47.99
Order Total : $843.59

My total is $843.59 and that's a fine price for this machine, even the Asus starts at higher than this I believe. OC or no OC, I will still be happy cause everything in the spec sheet will and can be done.

Sorry for throwing a spec sheet out there, just trying to make a point.

 

Its a netbook that is alienware priced

 

I was re-enforcing your point...

Seriously, here we have a system that was never adverstised has having overclocking capabilities which you pointed out. If it will overclock to 1.6 that's a 23% increase which I'm happy with. If it doesn't then I get what I Knowingly paid for.

 

@armoured = washing out?

@villa = its not the first time some people have flared up.

 

agree. an alienware netbook

 

I bought the machine before I ever heard about the overclock option. I was impressed by the overall package and bang for the buck. Any "extra" speed from the CPU is just a bonus. So now we have people complaining about a 300 MHz overclock (instead of 433 MHz) that was never advertised or promised, and you wonder why little extras like this are not offered? All Dell has to do to really fix the problem is remove the overclock option in the BIOS. Then what would you complain about?

 

You left off the /sarcasm

 

And they put a feature in to allow you to overclock and nowhere does it say that you can't or shouldn't. If a feature exists one should expect it to work, not the other way around. You don't confirm every little option in any piece of hardware.

They didn't say anywhere it would officially work with faster memory, but it does.

 

I have an SU7300. It easily overclocks to 1.73GHZ. Without that OC, its seriously holding back the gpu. Darkhan, a while ago, confirmed the 1.73 OC.

I'm not settling for a crippled version of an already fairly weak processor. And I'm not going to beat a dead horse. I'm returning it, and most likely the m17x because of their stupidity, and ill be out of your way. Enjoy.

If they can't get the SU to stably OC because of heat or anything similar, it should've been in a slightly larger 12.1 inch package.

I hate Dell. I've always hated their idiotic company with a passion, and now they've given me reason to hate AW.

I've owned 4 AW desktops from before the merger, and one laptop. Never had issue with any of them. Never complained once, they were masterful pieces of hardware made by a passionate and talented company. This new AW, ehhh, pass.

 

@htwingnut
That is not being debated. The point is not that you can or can't overclock but that it is nothing more than an extra. It's not an advertised feature that consumers should expect. Therefore whatever extra you get out of the OC feature is simply a bonus.

 

If you really hate it, you should take all the unrealistic complaints and speculations to a new thread and leave this thread for the people who have useful information to post. complaining in this thread isn't going to help anyone

 

I've got to say, that's what caught my eye too. It honestly didn't open AW to a new crowd, it simply brought people who couldn't afford AW in the past an opportunity to get one. A non fan of Alienware would never buy one, I can promise you that.

 

well said Zlog...

 

I'd agree with the arguments that 1.6 is legit.... that was my thought all along, because, afterall, in the HardwareHeaven review, THEY SHOWED US A SCREEN WITH 1.6. I questioned it originally when you guys all said it would be 1.73, but never really believed it... afterall, I could never understand why the review models would be nuetered compared to the retail models... that wouldn't make sense... obviously somebody SET THE OVERCLOCK TO 1.6 ON PURPOSE in the review models... so why do we expect otherwise for ours????

 

No they haven't. . . 1 person is having issues with overclock, and for all we know it's nothing more than a bad stick of RAM.

Sh*t happens. You're the one who has decided that a machine you don't even have yet is defective.

You're letting your emotions control your logic. Take a lesson from Spock and be rational.

 

I can't wait for my m11x to come in!

I think my favorite thing about it is having such a sweet graphics card in such a sweet sized laptop.

What is everyone elses favorite thing about it?

 

Agreed, the OC feature is there but no one ever said it would be OCed to 1.73 for sure. I've done my fair share of OCing and know that every cpu is different; combined with a set voltage and you can have issues with people running into stability issues. In a way I think Dell did us a favor and clock it down to avoid crashes and bsod (not including the ONE incident so far of a defect).

 

Well, I'm one of those 'new crowd'. I could have afforded the larger models, but I find them entirely unappealing. It's the size of this thing and what's under the hood that compelled me to buy this. If the same product was available for the same price and spec from another company I'd happily buy it from them instead.

I prefer something more understated in aesthetic, but that's just the point of compromise for getting something that upgrades me from a traditional netbook without going full-size notebook. I eagerly look forward to getting it however, but saying I've bought an Alienware isn't going to be high on my announcements.

 

Don't sell AW short. I really think that they are going to pick up a lot of sales from non typical AW buyers. Just a couple of years ago I bought a Sony T series that is similar is size and features (yes the Sony was lighter and was two spindle) for $2500! Since netbooks have become popular people have forgotten that smaller sub notebooks typically cost 1.5x - 2x times as much as a mainstream notebook. So I can look back and see what kind of value the M11x offers. That's not to say I'm not a little bit bummed that the CPU doesn't hit 1.73 GHz, but it's not a deal breaker.

 

Ok, I'll admit I jumped a little too high there. All I know is that some people hate Alienware, those will never buy even if a system was $1. The more open minded individuals will be the ones who bite.

 

saosin is completely right here. all dell had to do was just leave it alone, the su7300 has been proven to overclock to 1.73ghz without problem, WHAT IS THE POINT of them intervening and reprogramming things where it is not needed. i was already self conscious about the processor to begin with, and i know it is something that will unwilling nag at me in my head while i game.
they grabbed a processor that was already on crutches and slammed it in a wheelchair

 

If you're self concious about the CPU, you're probably in the wrong market here...

 

the laptop market?

 

That's the same reason that I'm interested in it. I just want a portable PC that I can game on, without having to spend a fortune on it, or being a 10 lb monster. The overclock is a nice bonus, though.

 

That is the point It is NOT a bonus feature, since it is in the bios as an option. BTW, I already conditioned earlier that "IF" it can not be clocked at 1.73ghz. Plenty of time to sort it out and will not change my mind, but I want the 173mhz, none the less

 

The overclock should be the least of peoples worries. It will be sooner rather than later that we will see these things run at 1.73 and probably even much higher, considering the following these things have allready developed.

 

My dell xps m1210 with the 2.16Ghz core 2 duo and Nvidia 7400GS can play 1080p youtube videos without a problem. I would think the M11x could.

 

Overclocking is in the manual isn't it? Doesn't that mean they officially told you about it?

 

Had several laptops including the sadly gpu underpowered 30vt not already came with the mature SU7300 at 1.73ghz, that would make sense. 1.6ghz does not make sense here, so I am counting on this being an issue of wrong perception.

Again, when all is said and done, why would non-gamer devices have it able to clock at 1.73ghz (or in some cases, clocked at 1.73 as standard), but AW does NOT with a gaming device? Makes no sense as it seems, so must really be some reason that actually does make sense

Besides, will not make a difference in a few months, since the NEXT best thing will arrive

 

I would like to see a BIOS update that would bring the SU7300 to 1.95Ghz (6.5x300). Now that would make this a killer machine.

 

I will be happy with 1.73ghz, since there may be issues when clocked that high (1.95mhz). Once you get past the more "proportional" limits of the ceiling of the cpu, you then may run into stability issues, not to mention more battery drain and heat. The degradation curve is exponential at some point- not sure what the danger point on the mhz curve is for the SU7300.

 

173mhz is that important to you guys?
i mean from 1.6ghz to 1.73 ghz?

 

All hypothetical here but if say I overclocked the the CPU to 1.73 ghz and say, the laptop stopped working after a year or so for an unknown reason, maybe ram or HD failure. Would they be able to turn me away purely because I changed one little setting in the BIOS?

ditto above but with a clock of 1.6ghz

 

I think it's just settling in for some folks how weak the processor really is alot of people we're counting on the 1.73ghz to compensate even though it really would not have made much difference. So alot of people are venting right now because 1.6ghz makes an already weak processor even weaker than they were expecting.

I am gonna see about canceling mine tomorrow.

 

i dont quite understand your statement, what do you mean by "because 1.6ghz makes an already weak processor even weaker than they were expecting"?
i thought it would be great if you can oc su7300 from 1.3 to 1.6. but your statement says 1.6 ghz is worse than 1.3ghz.