*OFFICIAL* M11x Owners Lounge - Part 3

lol that's with the law, but breaking speed limit doesn't void warranty so your argument doesn't work. It's more like red lining your tach. They don't allow that, thus there's a limiter on it. If screw up and down shift into the red zone your engine is most likely screwed. But there's no options on cars to "allow" you to rev over the red line so that doesn't even matter, unless of course you get a modded ECU and allow it, but then your warranty is void. But modded ECU's aren't provided by the manufacturer's now are they?

Raziel is correct. To add to this, you can still download those games onto your sucky computer now to save time. Use Steam's built in back up feature to either burn them to DVD's or just copy the backup files onto an external HDD. Then run the steambackup.exe on your M11x when it arrives and basically "installs" the games for you from the ext. HDD. This will save you a lot of time if you want to get gaming ASAP on your new M11x. I have prob 60GB of Steam games backed up on my ext HDD since I'm reformatting, getting new computers all the time =) So yeah, buy away! and download if you can!

 

@ashodd

And if you are so worried about it don't do it. There is no way they can even tell you used the bios option if you yank the CMOS battery before sending it in. Plus, the chances of them searching your HDD for some 3rd party overclocking program is also very remote. In fact, the chances of damaging anything are really remote anyway, I have my desktop Phenom OCed over 1.5 Ghz faster than stock and it has been fine for like a year and a half now.

 

Dam! I wanted that free steak.

Bronsky

 

when i sent the m15x in for repairs i asked them if i could remove the hdd and they let me do it. so if you are going to send it in for repairs and you used software to oc then u can just tell them you will take the hdd out before sending it in because you dont want your precious data wiped

 

It is user replaceable, it just is not external.

 

Hello forum,

I am thinking of buying a M11x, but I would like to know how it compares performance wise to my current laptop. I have a Gateway P-7811FX that is in great working order, but I'm going off to college soon and I need something a little more portable (this behemoth is 9 pounds, and 10 with the adapter!). the specs for my laptop are HERE (note i'm running a clean install of Windows 7 Professional).

Currently, I play a lot of Left 4 Dead 2(high settings) & S.T.A.L.K.E.R.:Shadow of Chernobyl w/ the stalker complete 2009 mod(high with SSAO and ParallaxAO)(getting Clear Sky and Call pf Pripyat after I finish SoC). My current laptop can handle outputting games to a 1080p monitor with little effect on performance (i normally play on a 1680x1050 monitor) and i wish to do the same with the m11x. I only use the on board monitor when i'm out and about, and i would like to continue to do this with the m11x.

THE SHORT VERSION:Will i be able to output games to a 1080p monitor, at high graphics levels, with little to no decrease in performance from my current laptop?

note: i am in no rush to buy a m11x. If there are any better options coming down the pipeline (like core i3 or i5) i am willing to wait till the end of the year for them.

Thanks in advance

 

HL2 will play very well on the M11x, since it plays very well on the 30vt. Even so, the 335m should still help out, compared to the 30vt's 210m.

Speaking of Stalker, that is one of the 20 games in the $50 deal on Steam right now. Never played it- yet

 

@boateye
For starters, the laptop that you currently have is a desktop replacement, something the m11x is not. The 9800gts on the laptop is an extremely powerful gpu. It should be noticeably more powerful than the 335m that comes with the m11x. If you are planning on playing games on 1080p with the m11x, plan on turning the graphics to med-low. Then again, the m11x has around 6hrs of battery life and is half the weight of your current system.

 

If you are in no rush, just wait a few weeks. There will be PLENTY of reviews by people that paid money for the device and will have plenty of reports

All of the stuff here right now is conjecture based on other devices with similar hardware- sans the 335m, of course.

 

@ boateye

the short answer? NO it will not compare well to your computer to be honest and @ 1080P output you will have to drop settings to be honest. Ask yourself, is gaming going to be a big deal for you? What's most important? Super portability and battery life? Or more power with some portability? If you feel that basically anything 15" or above is too much, then I think the M11x is a decent compromise for gaming.

 

yea, i just saw that sale. i got it when it was just $5 last year. they did that sale twice for some reason in 2009 then put it out for $2 one day during the holiday sale! Its a great game, i wonder why they are practically giving away!

i say buy it and be sure to get the stalker complete 2009 mod. it updates the engine to today's standards and fixes a lot of the HUD and gameplay issues.

as an added bonus, if you own either SoC or Clear Sky, you can get Call of Pripyat (the newest one in the series) for $20 instead of $30 on steam!

 

Anyone here who has ever played an X-Box 360 on a LCD HDTV has witnessed 720p resolution graphics, and they look just fine on a decent LCD TV, right? Well, if you're worried about the M11X's performance when hooked up to a bigger screen, just keep it at 720p resolution and let the display upscale; it'll still look good, and it'll run as well as it did on the M11X's own screen.

 

this answers one of my questions. however, i want to know what would be the performance difference between an m11x and a gateway p-7811fx? Specs again

 

@boateye
the performance difference between the two is huge. It's like comparing a desktop with a laptop. The m11x should be around half as slow as the p-7811fx.

 

ok, this is what i was afraid of. looks like i'll be getting an HP mini for my college needs.

 

and the HP mini is probably half the power of the M11x. If you want to do some gaming then yeah the M11x will do the job. HP mini would be good though if you don't care to spend the extra bucks and just want a portable computer and game on your gateway.

 

@boateye
What games were you looking to play? The reviews at IGN.com and HardwareHeaven.com paint a good picture of how the m11x will perform in "slow mode" -- before turning on the OC feature in the BIOS.

 

Then the HP mini will be half as slow as the M11x.

 

i was hoping the difference in performance would be minimal, so that i could give away my gateway and use the m11x as my main. i would prefer juggling only one computer.

i mainly play Left 4 Dead 2, and the STALKER series. i can run these, and most other games, at high settings (about a level or two below max) @ 1920x1080 no problem. i would prefer to be able to do this with the m11x and just have one computer. i don't really like having 2 computers.

However, should i get over myself and just get an m11x, or should i just lug my gateway around campus? the main thing i'm worried about is theft and it's easier to keep an eye on one computer.

 

@boateye
Keep in mind that, so far, no 13inch or smaller laptops can do 1080p gaming anywhere close to your current system. If you do indeed get a m11x or that hp mini, only take that to class. What is the point of carrying a desktop replacement to class? Also, why would you want to play games in class?!?!? You are paying to attend college for a reason, and it sure as hell isn't playing games in class. If you are so worried about theft, get a lock and secure the gateway onto your desk.

 

Not to be rude, but you're giving up on the m11x and considering the HP 311 mini instead? That doesn't make a helluva lot of sense, unless it's solely from a price standpoint.

I've owned the mini, and it sucks. It's fine for a netbook, and can PLAY games, but not well. It's also well below the thresthold for what I'd consider everyday computing in terms of performance. I'm sorry, I just can't live with an atom processor. The SU7300 is SIGNIFICANTLY more powerful than an atom.

If you're considering keeping the Gateway and picking up a mini for school, you're MUCH better off keeping the Gateway and picking up the m11x.

The m11x is FAR superior to the mini in every way, including battery life, and will still yield you the ability to game at acceptable quality/framerate.

It's also only several hundred dollars more expensive, if you can afford the mini, you should just save up a little longer and get the m11x.

 

LOL i'ts not that i want to play games in class, it's just that i wanted a single computer that i could:

1)Do school work on
2)continue my current gaming habits
3) not strain my back when taking it to class

however, after reading the IGN review of the M11x, they say they can get l4d2 to run maxed out at 50-60FPS. screw it i'm getting an m11x. l4d2 is my main game, and if that can be played @ max, i'm going for it. however, i hear that there are rumors that core i3 and/or core i5 chips may be coming to th em11x. is this true?

 

I'd just leave the Gateway in my dorm, and take the m11x with me around campus.

If you're worried about theft, I'm assuming your dorm is locked. If it's stolen and you have roomates, well, you know who's butt to kick.

 

The HP mini will be much much slower then half. I had an Asus 1201N and that has more power then the HP mini. The Asus 1201N would get 1500 for a score in 3DMark06. The M11X will get around 7000 (when OCed to 1.73Ghz). That is about 4.5 times faster then the Asus and probably close to 5 times faster then the HP mini.

 

It's not worth waiting for the core ix chips to come to the m11x. You'll be waiting at least 6 months.

 

Yeah, and the atom in the mini is nowhere near half as fast as the SU7300. Look at passmark scores for proof. The SU7300 humiliates an atom processor.

 

i was trying to avoid having 2 computers, but i am starting to fathom that situation. also, if i get an m11x, and i personally deem it able to live up to my expectations given my current set-up, i can always leave the gateway at home for my dad (he's been coveting my gateway ever since i got it). either way, it's a win-win.

Thanks guys, you have been a great help.

 

I'll be using my M11x as my main. I have no other choice, but we'll see if it does the job for me as my main computer, although besides gaming, I don't do much else besides videos, web, music, and productivity.

 

If it makes you feel any better, I'll be using my M11x as a 90% main computer. I'll have my MacBook as a back up just in case, but I'll be gaming/programming/chilling with my M11x (dual booting some flavor of Linux). I don't foresee any problems with using the M11x as a main computer as long as you don't expect it to do crazy things like play L4D2 at max while encoding an HD movie and using Fraps to record your gameplay.

 

Yeah dude, I understand the desire for one computer. I used to be like that. But it makes so much more sense to have a high performing brick and decent performing ultraportable.

More than likely, the m11x will be good enough for you to consider as your primary PC. The SU7300 is not a weak processor for everyday tasks and even gaming, it's just not up to the level of current non ULV ix performance which is kind of just luxury at this point.

For your needs (M Office, homework, internet, gaming), the m11x is perfect.

I'm speaking from experience because I own an SU7300, and it's not bad at all. It's nowhere near my 920XM, but it shouldn't and doesn't have to be. The only reason you should be concerned is if you habitually do a lot of CPU intensive tasks, which it doesn't seem like you will be.

 

Another comparison, the Gateway P-7811FX is not to much more powerful then the M11x. I just checked out a review of that system and it scored a 8679 in 3Dmark 06. That is only 1679 points more then the M11x. Also the Gateway is 9.5lbs compared to the 4lbs of the M11x. The M11x truly is a mini desktop replacement.

 

scupking... that difference is pretty significant, and also as far as we know the M11x scores ~6100 so that's a 2500 point difference. I don't take too much into 3DMark06 since it's CPU reliant, but that's a big difference. The 9800GTS is still a powerful card.

 

@scupking
the gpu in the p-7811fx alone is 50% faster than the 335m. According to notebookcheck, The 9800gts has a 3dmark 06 score of min: 9320, avg: 9585, max: 9700. The 335m, on the other hand, averages 6500.

 

If I were to paint my m11x a with a matte black finish, will that void my warranty in the future even if the failure is not custom paint caused?

 

The 6100 is at stock 1.3Ghz. I'm guessing with the M11x OCed to 1.73Ghz it should push 7000 or maybe more. From a portability aspect you just can't beat the M11x for what it can give you and for a low price. Either way it will kill my XPS m1210 with the Nvidia 7400GS. The most I can get out that in 3DMark06 is 961.

 

Looks like Starcraft 2 beta began. Just saw a friend load it up on Steam.

 

So - in my continued obsessive boredom of waiting for my m11x to arrive..

I've been searching around (as I'm sure everyone else has on this thread) for benchmarks of the m11x.

While it's obviously not the same machine, etc. I *did* find an interesting video of MW2 on an Asus UL80Vt - with fraps on ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCYRO9MvAv0

What's the relevance you ask?

The machine is pretty much an *exact* replica, hardware-wise, of the m11x - with the *only* difference being the video card and RPM of the hard drive:

14" Display - 1366x768 resolution
C2D SU7300 - 1.3 Std /1.73 OC
4GB RAM
320GB HD (5400 RPM I believe)
NVIDIA GeForce 210M Graphics card / 512MB

By comparison - the 210M is quite a downgrade compared to the GeForce 335M with regards to number of cores (335M has 4.5x the amount of CUDA cores), etc.:

GeForce 210M product page:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_g210m_us.html

GeForce 335M product page:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_g210m_us.html

Throughout the video - you'll notice that the game rarely dips below 30 fps during gameplay, with much of the footage averaging from 40-60 fps.. He plays the game with pretty much everything on - even swapping between no AA and 2xAA - thought it's hard to tell the difference much from a visual perspective due to the quality of the video. However, again, not much of a slowdown with regards to fps reported via fraps...

Hopefully this appeases some of the concerns surrounding playability, etc. I'm looking around for a L4D2 comparable video, etc., on the same laptop.

Last but not least - here's a link to the same laptop with a quick benchmark review of various games:

http://www.expertlaptopreview.com/?p=96

All in all - just makes me drool a little more for the m11x - and the wait that much longer..

 

Been reading most of these posts because I ordered an M11X, due to arrive 3/3, and wanted as much info as I could get. I cannot wait for it to arrive, it should be the perfect computer for me.
I have an XPS 1730 as my main computer, and the M11x will replace an ASUS mini to take to work daily to check e-mails, keep important files on etc. I wont do a whole lot of gaming on it, but I am sure I will play Call Of Duty and Madden on it. Everything else any computer can do MS Office, Facebook, etc.
What I need is some info on how to load movies onto the computer to watch them, also I saw a post about a program that made the processor work less watching movies, anybody have info on that.
I'm pretty computer dumb so plain english please, and I do already have an external drive.
Thanks in advance!

 

WHat?! Where?! How!?

 

The beta is on steam? How do we sign up?

 

steam? ?

@jsgiv thanks for that, I had no worries about playing MW2 on the M11x, but a few things to note about the site benchmarks and that video. Only the TEXTURES are set to highest, and native res BUT graphical settings are OFF, meaning lighting fx, smoke, ragdoll, shadows, bullet impact are non-existent. So yeah I should expect the game to run well with those graphical features turned off. The website benchmarks says they're all off too except for textures and goes as far to say they don't make much of a difference haha. Specular mapping IMO is a very cool graphical feature - it shows lighting etc and shadows are sweet too, though not important. Anyway, the M11x will destroy that ASUS =D

 

Yea thanks for the video. Got my excitement going again. Can't wait to receive this frickin laptop.

 

Running more test to see how the M11X will compare to my desktop. My desktop has a Core 2 Quad Q9650 OCed to 3.8Ghz, 4 GB ram and Nvidia 8800GT. I just ran 3DMark06 on it and came up with a score of 13000. So my desktop is only 1.85x more powerful for gaming then the M11X. To me thats very impressive.

 

Anyone have any idea if that is with the cpu at 1.3GHz or 1.7GHz? Also with the GPU overclocked, it could do really well, I squeezed out close to another 1000pts in 3DMark06 on my 8600m GT. So I would guess at least another 1000 in 3DMark06. At least. But al depends on what that CPU was run at for the 6100 score. I would say benches of at least 1000. But again thats overclocked.

 

could you post a picture of that ?

 

why would the beta be on steam... there's no blizzard games on steam :|.. whoever did that just put a 3rd party app there an renamed it SC2 beta or something -_- come on guys .. I know we're excited.. but you can't fall for that that easily

 

speaking of SC2, does anybody know if it will be digitally downloadable or only retail ?

now im getting an m11x its kinda annoying i cant play any of my current games becuase of the need for the CD. going to have to cd crack them which is stupid considering i have bought them all legally. First cdcrack ill be needing is a Dragon Age one!!

 

ashodd - I'm pretty sure, 99.9% sure SC2 will be available digitally downloadable, because even Diablo II, World of Warcraft are available digitally from Blizzard. Even if you have the retail discs of those you can tie your key to b.net and download the game that way =) I can't see SC2 taking a step backwards from this. As for DA:O, I did that for awhile before buying it again on steam, but my method was via an ISO rip and loading it up on PowerISO instead of an actual crack.

 

good stuff, thanks for the reply - why did you buy it again, were there any problems with the ISO method ?

 

do you think assassin creed will run on m11x????

and is the abe series already out on steam ...??? can anyone look for me please??? (abe- odysee- munch - oddworld strangers wrath) would love to play that on the m11x