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    *OFFICIAL* M17x Benchmarks RESULTS *Part 2*

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by the3vilGenius, Oct 11, 2009.

  1. dondadah88

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    that last i posted was my dual core and the others are my quad core. as you see my gpu scores dropped alot from going to dual to a quad.
     
  2. Johnksss

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    now you understand fully what i have said way back in the 9800 days.....
     
  3. dondadah88

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    yeah i do.

    3.07 is my limit though. i can't break that.
     
  4. Speedy Gonzalez

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  5. cookinwitdiesel

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    for any confused about the quad vs. dual thing with SLI:

    Here is 10 runs I did, 5 with quad, 5 with affinity to 2 cores for 3DMark06. All were with the CPU @ 3.25

    Overall SM2 SM3 CPU

    4 Core
    16351 6494 7887 4324
    15655 5930 7631 4369
    15533 5738 7667 4395
    15419 5716 7614 4335
    15608 5817 7608 4471

    2 Core (0/1)
    14984 6741 8106 2866
    14897 6606 8133 2858
    14897 6609 8123 2861
    14928 6620 8116 2879
    14903 6607 8121 2867
     
  6. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

    Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept

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    Here is my P8600 3DMARK06 RUN

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  7. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

    Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept

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    I don't see it anywhere? You got a link for the DL?
     
  8. Mandrake

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    Doesn't install on mine. It's says I have the same driver or better already installed.
     
  9. Speedy Gonzalez

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    don't install that one guys is 9.7 drivers
     
  10. Mandrake

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    I think I'm currently using 9.9, if not then 9.11. Don't know why 9.7 is part of Windows Update. They're a few months behind.
     
  11. RealAlienM4n

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    I have done some more bench and test and I see that my M17x is suffering about stuttering just when I OC the CPU with a terrible FPS drop. (also if my OC is about 10mhz)
    I want also to ask you wich nvidia driver is better for a single gtx260 configuration. I see that in futuremark bench 195.62 driver are better that 186.81 but in-game the performance of 186.81 driver seems to be much better.
    Is that right?
    I also experience a wrost DPC latency after installing the new bios A02 is that possible? Now I have some 54.xxx absolute value like every3/5 second.

    May be I am a little OT Iam sorry for that.
     
  12. dondadah88

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    what am i missing here?
    [​IMG]

    shed some light on me. :(
     
  13. Mandrake

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    CPU score looks normal. SM2 and 3 are low. GPUs are stock? Try a different driver see if it changes. Do you see stuttering during the test?

    Also, are you using a notebook cooler?
     
  14. dondadah88

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    to the left is the quad core run and the right is the dual core run. same everything. stock gpu's.
    [​IMG]
     
  15. Mandrake

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    Did you have different pci-e settings?
     
  16. dondadah88

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    nope. it's at 2,500 like always. i didn't do anything except change the affinty like scook decribed in the last page. i have to fiddle around and see what's up...
     
  17. Mandrake

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    So your "dual and "quad" is the same proc?

    Doesn't this point back to the quad/sli issue with 3dmark06?
     
  18. dondadah88

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    yes. i'm looking into it now.
     
  19. dondadah88

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    i give up for now. i have like 5 new games i want to play.
    sf4 quad maxed
    [​IMG]
    dual maxed
    [​IMG]

    i still have to find the breaking point for the quad.
     
  20. Mandrake

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    Also need to find better drivers than the aging Dox drivers.
     
  21. cookinwitdiesel

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    Indeed. I tried several versions and settled on the 186.24 for 3DMark06. I do not remember what version of physx I used with it. Different physx versions will effect your fps as well, even though it is not being utilized
     
  22. Mandrake

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    Well I found myself a new driver. Take a look at this stock run.
     

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    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    holy bejesus....
     
  24. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

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    Here is the P8600 with new Driver 9.12

    [​IMG]
     
  25. dondadah88

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    ati's are ruling now. :)
     
  26. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    they already were lol
     
  27. Johnksss

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    what what...a new record????
    man...nvidia...that's a rap...lol
     
  28. cookinwitdiesel

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    we are making the best of what we got.....2 year old GPUs lol
     
  29. Johnksss

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    i already know!... i made the best i could out of the 9800m gtx's then had to shake them. lol

    so i feel your pain!
     
  30. cookinwitdiesel

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    I think my plan of action is to stay as is on the M17x and wait for the next wave of cards. The M17 I plan to get though, I think it will still enjoy some 4850s (the best MXM 2.1 has to offer :) )
     
  31. Johnksss

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    it's an over clocking monster from what i have seen. and to a bencher...that's a dream come true. it will be the fastest 4850 carded machine, if not the fastest in the world...but that still seems to be open for change...
     
  32. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

    Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept

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    Final RUN C2D P8600 @3.15Ghz CPU and 650/1100 GPU

    Vantage:

    [​IMG]

    3DMARK06:

    [​IMG]
     
  33. Johnksss

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    i guess jr (lol)..er ...ah... Rengsey R. H. Jr.! has found the right mix...great job!!
     
  34. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

    Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept

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    I have too much probelm running the QX9300, so it's sitting outside my m17x. I just decided to play with the P8600. I am getting rid of the QX9300. I know for sure, that there are different build of QX9300. QX9300 OEM vs. the QX9300 that are config with the laptops. Call me crazy, but my instinct says that the OEM QX9300 are not as stable vs. the ones they already config with the laptop.

    G-Nite John, it's 1:00 A.M. , I have to get up at 5:00 A.M. for work. lol.....

    Side note: You can call me Mr. P8600 ...lol
     
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    lol
    i live where you live, but i have to get up at about 6:45am.
    nite rengsey

    and there may be something to the cpu thing...or you haven't mastered all the little tricks with it....who knows....give it a few days

    edit:

    not sure if you guys are up on this one, but it seems to be a pretty cool benchmark...does dx9 up to dx11 and opencl
    i think this one would be a good one to add to the list.
    http://unigine.com/download/

    this one is all gpu and pretty brutal on them at that....give it a try and lets see what comes back.
     
  36. Mandrake

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    God job Rengsey. Vantage loves the 9.12 driver. Now there's no excuse not to hit 14K GPU. ;)
     
  37. Mandrake

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    The procs that come with the laptops are OEM. When I tested out the HP proc and the proc that came with the Dell they tested exactly the same. There is a better chance that not all systems act the same with similar procs.
     
  38. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

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    I'll give it another whirl. I have opened the m17x like 4-5 times within a week so far. I saw that benchmark in the notes of the hot fixes, but I didn't bother to download. It is called Heaven. I did watch the video of it on youtube, and it looks amazing. I will try it after I throw in the QX when I'm off work.

    I'm on vacation for this coming week, I think I will give it another chance.

    Maybe my system sucks and not the cpu. but we'll see.
     
  39. Mandrake

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    Today is my last day and I'll be off until next year. I plan on doing more Vantage runs tonight and through the weekend with the M17x and the Cat 9.12 drivers with both the T9900 and QX9300. Hope you guys will be on tonight shooting for that 14K score.
     
  40. Kade Storm

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    . . .well, I guess this is a query best suited for such a thread.

    X9100 vs. QX9300, within the paradigm of overclocking. Just hear me out before you guys start gut-laughing, because I can fathom the true power of the QX9300 just fine. I know that technically, one CPU is clearly superior to the other.

    You see, I want to add one of the aforementioned CPUs to a 280m GTX SLi configuration, but going by the general posts, the QX9300 is a bit of a hit or miss when it comes to overclocking. This is why I am concerned and conflicted about the choice.

    Obviously, I'd like to maximise SLi performance and be able to overclock the GPUs a little without hitting any bottlenecks or issues. Also, I wouldn't mind playing something like GTA IV, or other games specifically designed for quad cores, but not with groundbreaking frame rates. I am willing to compromise with such titles using a faster dual core, so long as the frame rates are steady and stable.

    Taking all this into consideration, would an X9100 manage to hold up well for such demands?
     
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    i guess t9900 is better than that x9100 for your needs man :)
     
  42. Quadzilla

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    If you want to play GTA4 at all id stick with the Qx9300 as its really a multi threaded app and plenty of stuff coming will take advantage of the Quad..


    If you bought the X9100 you might enjoy it at first but later regret it so just jump straight to the Quad and get it over with ..
     
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    Thanks for the input, dude.

    Yeah, I read up on the T9900. I do want to overclock, and the X9100 has the unlocked multipliers. I am currently running the X9000 on my M1730 at max and it's perfectly cool and stable thanks to the full-blast fans. I'd like to duplicate this setup and feel on the M17x.

    Heh, thanks for the tip, Quadzilla. I wouldn't have expected anything else from you, and you are spot-on about the long-term benefits of the QX9300. I'd like one that I could push, perhaps to the 3.0 GHz mark without suffering the drawbacks. Any ideas?
     
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    With Mandrakes helpful tips you should be able to run it all day at 3.07 without any issues and 3.2 for benching etc... Honestly though every Qx9300 is going to hit 2.93 just at the multiplier and for day to day that is more then enough...
     
  45. Mandrake

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    When I had the x9100 I wasn't able to change the multipliers and keep it stable. Maybe you'll have better luck. That is the reason I've been recommending the T9900. I can run it at 3.5Ghz with no issue and less heat.

    The quad core brings some drawbacks along with it's advantages so if your willing to take the bad with the good then you can go that route. If you like to benchmark then the QX9300 is a MUST.
     
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    Take a look at this post. LINK
     
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    2.93 or 3.0 sounds fine to me, as I need this for day-to-day.

    In fact, I plan to start with just the stock setting and move up as software gets more and more demanding.

    I run my current X9000 at maximum, because the overclock setting makes the BIOS force all the system fans to run at constant maximum. This is an excellent cooling solution for the M1730 GPU, which are prone to problems. It would be nice to have such an option with the M17x at a later point when it is needed.

    Edit 1:
    Thank you for the link, Mandrake. I get what you've said, and personally, I'd prefer a balanced approach--good with bad--rather than just pure speed that'll only produce short-term benefits. I still have to think this one through though.

    Edit 2:
    Forgot to ask. Do the system fans go into constant maxmimum mode when using an overclocked extreme CPU on the M17x?
     
  48. Quadzilla

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    No they wont go full blast till you start playing some games at which point you might want to build a sound proof room from all the noise :D ITS LOUD!!!! ;)..


    Getting a cooler though might help keep the sound at bay...
     
  49. Mandrake

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    I heard complaints about the M17 but I think the M17x is louder.
     
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    with the cooler is double noise quad, imagine 6 fans running at max :eek:
     
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