*OFFICIAL* M17x Benchmarks RESULTS *Part 2*

and another...

 

You know how it is, new technology is always on top. So I will be saying the same thing you say , when the new ATi's 5XXX comes out.

 

sure, i can overclock. no problem there...but i was interested in seeing if the 4870 cards could run dx11, but they can't. so all test ran at dx11 are really dx10. so when i run your settings...it's up to 98/2472

also wanted to see how they handled 8x AA in this benchmark. since alot of the time..ati cards do far better when you enable it.

keep on pushing! almost there!

ati seem to be far better at AA than nvidia is..never could completely understand that..since they would enable max AA and scores would jump up.

 

True. Although, to be perfectly honest, I am still looking for that elusive leap into the next-gen. I think the Mobility 5xxxx should have such a solution on the table.

And John, ATi cards are good with AA under a specific scenario. MSAA in DX10.1. This is very good. However, nVidia followers can argue that they get the benefit of CSAA, which ATi cards don't seem to do properly. This to me is cheap because at least the ATi cards took advantage of the newer API; CSAA is just an economy technique that can be executed under DX9. So yeah, I favour ATi in this 'war'.

As for your cards getting the results they're getting. . . c'mon. Is it any surprise? You've got an edgy, true next-gen desktop GPU, and your GPU's theoretical FLOP rating is beyond amazing. Even the top-notch mobile cards in dual configuration are barely passing the 1 teraflop mark. I don't consider mobile cards anywhere near next gen. I'll be surprised if the true next generation of mobile GPUs match that kind of performance from the start.

 

15K with the QX9300??

 

the 5870M cards are do to hit next year...so we shall see...but if they follow with what is currently going on...about 7 fps maxed out dx11 is no where near playable....lol...maybe at 1024x768

so ill keep testing and looking for answers on this....

congrats!! wooohoooo!!

 

Take a look at my GPU scores compared to Kinc's 20K run.

 

You just made my GTX 280m's crap themselves in fear and go hide in the corner tail between their legs

Congrats though haha

 

Well, to be honest again, I have read your history with nvidia, and at that time, we would not have been getting along. I don't believe in brand loyalty. I just go with what I get, and what's working in the mainstream when it comes to GPUs. I've favoured ATi cards since the days of the Radeon 9600. They never died on me, and always churned out good performance. Nvidia has been a bad experience, by and large. Almost each card I've had, save for the 7900 GS and GTX and have had problems and failed. Still, I am going to have 280s soon, so I hope for the best.

Anyway, Mandrake, you're really breaking some solid numbers there. Well done.

 

i believed in "they we're winning loyalty" at the time. and had mhooper beat me back then..i would have ditched nvidia earlier. because then..i would have known the true potential of the cards. just because people say it's so..doesn't make it so..if you can't prove it, then it really ain't so. but i took some outdated cards and made the best of them...now..time for some indated cards. nothing personal.

 

wow..... that is mandrake

 

Then it actually was true ...

 

For GPU yes. For CPU he obviously had the ability to change CPU voltage and no one else did. False advertisement by Asus.

 

That was a given

that chipset helped with stability .... Run xtu on there see what happens

 

the XTU was released for/with X38

A very good chipset except for the lack of SLI support (not an issue with the modern selection though...ATI is winning all around)

 

So I was bored and figured I will try some Vantage runs tonight......this stutter is so depressing

 

where all does it stutter at?

 

not always the same place, but at several points in jane nash and lately a few in calico as well

Also got stutter in 06 which NEVER happens (during canyon flight)

Trying different physx versions did not really change the stutter much either (and there is a new one for those ambitious testers!)

 

running vantage as we speak...seems i got knocked down to 19th place in the world records..trying to get back up to around 12th or so.
i do see very little stuttering...but it's been in the same spots for me with every card i've used. some less than others.

 

Sorry about the stuttering Scook9, is it just due to the new drivers?

Ran my first 06 run in a while and got just above 16k with only 11X multi and 1154 FSB. Tried to play with the GPUs, but when I downloaded the latest driver the overclock section was gone. Being lazy, sure it was covered already, but any suggestion other than rolling back the driver to get the OC via Nvidia Sys tools back?

 

dl system tools 6.05
64bit
http://www.nvidia.com/object/nvidia_system_tools_6.05.html

 

Ahhhhhh, I challenged and complained about this way back when. Again, Asus official reply was that the QX9300 would NOT be supported in the W90. And yes, XTU was perfect for the X38 chipset, but NONE of us could get a 'notebook' working copy back then. (like it was guarded for the elites, only)

I was MASSIVELY pe'ode!

Drake, also notice that KINC had minimal system memory in that W90. Hmmmmm..... ??? Also, for comparison sake, his 4870 cards were only 512MB. Perhaps a perusal of 'XtremeSystems' (FUGGER!) will yield some ideas...... just a thought.

LOL! I am cheering for you Drake buddy! DESTROY KINC!

GO, DRAKE, GO!

 

rotflmao
man, you crack me up striker!

im ranked 6th in the world and i still cant get an answer about it...lol
i quit asking

 

Tried a newer driver and i'm happy with the results i am getting. i have to run to work but will throw up some benchmarks later.

 

LOL! Well Heck, John..... I know you remember the frustration, LOL!

I was (gotta be nice here) REALLY MAD!

I hope Drake STOMPS KINC, and his marketing stunt!

(and when you do Drake, be sure to post it at 'XtremeSystems', real BIG & BOLD!)

 

Thanks striker! I haven't exhausted all my options yet. I'll hit the 20K mark assuming the 4850s I get play well with OC'ing. For the M17x I may still need more CPU voltage but if I can make it up the deficit with a higher GPU score I may be able to do it. I'm going to put my qx9300 in my M17x now.

 

What is your current set-up drake?

 

If you can clock the 4850s to the same speed as the "4870s" in that run from Kinc, then there is really NO reason you wont beat his score, you already matched his CPU OC, and that was the "hard" part. You have the benefit of more memory bandwidth, although less PCI-e bandwidth. Remember to overclock your PCI-e bus too

 

Yeah, no doubt..... the bios in KINC's W90 was NOT stock retail. You are not on an even playing field here. If we could only get the RIGHT bios for your M17x..... anyone have any favors they can call in with AW.

JOHNBATDELL, help us out here, Bro! We need the special secret sauce!

(Hmmmm, seems Dell/AW would want to smash that old ASUS record.... I wonder why they haven't already???)

 

The m17x community would love that special secret sauce, especially me. And we could put Asus out of the Extreme water for good.

 

Loaded up GearsOfWar and played it some. All settings maxed and getting constant 60fps (vsync'd) but also getting same stutter I see in vantage

Dam this stutter! AW really needs to address this. Especially as zFactor has shown it can be mitigated by changing voltage stuff in the bios

 

I still don't have my lappy back

 

oh hell yeah!!
and if he doesn't i will lol..got my copy and paste all ready to go...lol

man, you can do it! keep pushing!

yeah..im almost positive it's the ioh vcore voltage...when the multiplier or fsb gets past to it's lock point..the chip can't go any higher with out performance degration..because it's starved of the right voltage. (almost positive speculation of course..lol)

 

The last set of benchmarks was with my t9900. Everything else is the same.

 

farcry 2. setting above. cpu at 2.93ghz and stock gpu's. i'm going to be doing some more runs...

 

some tweaks. still stock gpu.

 

tightened memory alittle

 

up the cpu clock alittle. still didnt touch the gpu clock.


will run vantage now to see if it helps it stock...

 

i stuttered so much but still ended up with a decent gpu score....
anyone that has stuttering can you please post up your results.


i feel like i am using my whitebook.....

 

i'm focusing on min and average. average more important.


at 3.08ghz. i'm going to keep going to see what my max cpu is. then i will do the gpu's. i'm aiming for 80fps without =touching the gpu's which seems feadsuble is the cpu can hit past 3.1ghz.

my volts is at 1.163 which is weird since mt t9400 was at 1.200v and then when i max overclocked it it was at 1.250v

 

ok. i've releasied that the reason why there is no increase in performance is because i keep on stuttering. i'm at 3.089ghz and my scores go lower. when looking at whats going on the screen. it's constantly dropping.

 

wow don! you really have made some serious head way in fc2! nice work!

 

thanks alot. the gpus are still stock also.

 

when you go to over clock them...do not max over clock...do about a 35 percent first and do a test run...watch the fps in the first 20 seconds...then up the clocks a bit more and see if it gets better...if it does...continue till you see no more gain...then run the test.

 

ok ok. i will. i am just trying to figure why i'm not getting anything better after overclocking my cpu past 3.04ghz. after that, my fps is the same.
currently ast 3.135 which doesnt seem stable. i'll back down alittle.

 

depends...im at the same point your at now....
i can run at 4.7 ghz...but when i do...no gains...i get more running at 4.6. trying to see what is holding me back. and i have plenty voltage...

 

lol. i'm trying to think if it's the way that the data gets to the cpu after a certain xxx. i don't know the words for it. so i'm trying to think of an analogy.


like a car. not every car will hit 140mph at top speed. some will and some won't. so will require more gas to pump 140mph and some won't. and there's the cars no matter what you do with them, 140mph is so bad that 130mph seems better.

if that made any sense. lol

i know not only voltage and upping the clocks will lead to the best results. beucase of the fact you have other things to consider. ram, motherboard, thermal paste and many other varibles that can stop it. so even if the cpu is capable, you may need something else to make the difference. ??????

 

With the m17x it's 2 things

nvidia chipset
voltage

 

yes. i know there are a few things that can do it. i'm playing with my ram and it seems to affect performance more then i thought. john try that and see what happens....

 

one reason that i love this benchmark is that you can see what's what with your system with it. it depends on everything to get it right.
cpu/ dual/quad/crossfire/sli/ram everything....

3.087ghz a nice increase. i will pump up the cpu again to see if my theory is right.