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    *OFFICIAL* M17x Benchmarks RESULTS *Part 2*

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by the3vilGenius, Oct 11, 2009.

  1. Mandrake

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    IMO, it's hit or miss with the Q9200.
     
  2. cookinwitdiesel

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    True, if you want to be sure of what the chip can do, just get a QX9300 from someone
     
  3. MexicanSnake

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    Hi guys, Do you know the 3dmark06 scores of a single ati HD4870 and a t9900 @ stock? I really want to know since I have an ati HD3870 and want to compare :D :D.
     
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    we did it a few pages back. or do you want to challenge a 280m single. :)
     
  5. MexicanSnake

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    To be honest Im really new to this (high end gpu benching). I though the HD4870 was more powerful than the 280m. But yeah I would like to know too. :)

    Sorry its such a huge thread could you show me the post? :eek:

    Edit: Oh I found it :D HD4870 with a T9900, 10800 3dmarks!! NICE :D. Its like my OCed HD3870 + my Oced P9500 :p
     
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    hey mexicansnake did you install the drivers i tell you? :)
     
  8. MexicanSnake

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    Yep I did!!! Thank you very much, the system feels better. :D
     
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    do you get better results on 06 with those drivers :)
     
  10. MexicanSnake

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    Yeah, they are a little better, now its just matter of Ocing, but Im a little scared to do a higher gpu Oc... :(
     
  11. catacylsm

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    Thats a pretty awesome result though mex!

    That cores been pushed pretty serverely !
     
  12. Speedy Gonzalez

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    don't worry you not alone i scare to change voltages too and all the results i get is with the stock voltages :)
     
  13. MexicanSnake

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    Thank you, I though that the HD3870 was weaker and now I find out that is almost on par with a 260m (but I still think that the 260m is abit better). This demonstrates that notebookcheck.net is GARBAGE. :eek:

    Yep, Im happy with these results but hehehee I know I could squeeze a little more ;) these ATI cards behave nicely.
     
  14. catacylsm

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    :D

    Wasn't the 38** series based on a new design (i cannot remember exactly) but it wasnt like the 48**.

    I've noticed your cores quite amazingly pushed too, my 4850 cant take much core pushing! o_O (although memory is a different story haha.)
     
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    i try both and the hd3870 is better than the 260 but the 260 looks better just because the 1gb memory any way you can get the same results on benchmarks with both :)
     
  16. MexicanSnake

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    Let this be our little secret... Ehhhem I also have a gateway mc78 which has an ATI HD3650 ddr2 and it OCed like crazy!! without any problems, I Oced the core from 400mhz to 650mhz :eek: :eek: . No overheating, no stuttering, no BSODS, 0 artifacts no NOTHING!.

    Btw What are your scores?

    If you look at the asus g51 scores, the HD3870 even beats the 260m :eek: :eek: :eek:
     
  17. catacylsm

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    I haven't done any real runs, but i could do some, im not too busy.

    Out of box was 10300, CPU oc hit 11k easy and i will run with basic overdrive now.

    *Run crashed lol, sometimes it just hates being OC'd.*

    It likes vantage though :D.

    Asus run with a downclocked gtx 260m i believe, have you any vantage runs mex?
     
  18. MexicanSnake

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    Nope, look at the ASUS forums, with even an OCed core i7 processor + 260m it barely scores 10300 3dmarks :p. The ones that use 260m + core 2 duo are other different story... Also look at the g51 temps :p, they are not that great :(. But Im pretty sure that the HD4850 is better than the gtx 260...

    Vantage... Not yet, Ill have to get it later :) but I really want to run it and see my scores.
     
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    Aye me too, i know bb model asus g51's are downclocked...

    And yeah the cooling is not so good.

    So your running a desktop 4850 with your machine?

    Is this DIY or vidock layout?

    The 4850 does much better in vantage then 3dmark06 for me, (mind you could be down to drivers also.)

    Edit, maybe we should move to the msi OC forum instead of clogging these folk' bench thread :/ lol.
     
  20. cookinwitdiesel

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    So I let my computer cool down in the lovely 9 degree (f) weather and when I booted up no ssd anymore :( any ideas?

    Out of benching (and anything else....) until the 30th when I get home if this don't get better :(
     
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    what!! you kill your ssd ? that is to could man even for a battery
     
  22. cookinwitdiesel

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    Batteries warm back up. Ssd's are something new to me so we shall see. What I know is a few things in the bios were different so aparently the temps could effect flash technology. Hope it didn't wipe my ssd though
     
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    Just realized though, maybe the CMOS batery just died and reset the bios
     
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    i guess your battery is freezing that's all when it gets warm is going to survive :)
     
  25. cookinwitdiesel

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    it is warm now, and the computer boots just fine with my secondary drive working fine (wd3200bekt) however the SSD does NOT show up on either of the SATA ports which is not very promising. It is also warmed back up now.

    Corsair has a pretty poor website so I cannot find much about this model (X128) as far as technical specs or what the jumpers on it do. So, pretty open to ideas but I just want to get my SSD working again, I can reload the OS and what not but would prefer to not have to
     
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    Not recognized in the bios? Only idea is to try it in another machine then.
     
  27. Johnksss

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    wow scook. you just hit what is killing us in the desktop world.
    the cold bug. when the computer is too cold to boot, it gives an error, but since it's a laptop...you can't see it.
    things from cpu/ram/pcie slots or hd's will stop from booting..cause the computer to either sit on a black screen or can get you into the bios and a partial boot, but will fail.

    your ssd's should be good up to 0 degrees i think. (very big speculation) mine are at about 0 degrees and they boot fine.
     
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    Pretty sad if 9 degrees f will cause a cold bug....aint that supposed to be around like -200?

    Never had any error :( Initially the system would light up, the GPU fan makes a pissed off sound then system turned off. Once the whole thing warms up it started fine but the BIOS was reset (guessing the CMOS battery died due to cold causing a reset). Everything is 100% working fine now except for the fact that my ssd is a no show :(

    I hooked up the SSD using an enclosure to another machine and the machine sees it but cannot assign a driver to it - just shows as unknown device. I forced an association with the disk drive driver but gives me a code 10 - device cannot start. Really don't want it to be the case but looks like the drive is in trouble. It cant tell windows that it is a disk drive
     
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    If the machine can see it flash it with whatever the latest bios is.
     
  30. cookinwitdiesel

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    their are no firmware updates for the ssd :(

    And pretty sure flashing one would wipe the drive, which if possible I would love to recover the data of
     
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    Well no update on the SSD unfortunately, I have an extra drive we had here loaded with Win 7 for now, so I can at least use the machine - albeit missing most of my programs

    Did some testing with my kill-a-watt meter and I can happily confirm that upping the GPU voltage from 1.0V to 1.1V does in fact add 7-10 watts per card of power usage. So this means the cards are drawing more power when overvolting and that it should help in further overclocking GPU stability :)

    Also noticed that the stutter is directly linked to power usage as the wattage drops dramatically during the stutter although the cards remain at the same load (assuming the SLI indicator bar is acurate)
     
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    if you can run at 1.1 volts...then your memory over clock should be far higher...given that 1.1 really works...or if it is really reading 1.05...this is a hard one to tell...if you cant run a test past your highest mem over clock...it's not working.
     
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    Given that the original BIOS of the card had the upper voltage setting at 1.03 V I am inclined to say that regardless of how the voltage table is modded we will only get up to 1.03 V. I have also tested and found that around 290+ W the computer/power supply will cut itself off and shut down.

    The processor at stock draws 1.125 volts and at 3.25 is drawing 1.1625 volts. I am trying some GPU OC with GPU voltage at stock and CPU OC'd as well, back to the benching!

    Merry christmas everyone!
     
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    nice work!
    now get cha bench on..lol
     
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    Did a few runs, no stutter so far! Just have to get my oc stable at the end of calico. It was fine in 186.64 but crashes in dox 182.46 which seems harder to oc with. Really wish 185 series worked well with the M17x

    this driver crap is helping push me over to the ati side....
     
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    that's good news! the no stutter part.
     
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    what did you get stock?
     
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    First benchmark ran...does this game support sli mode?

    [​IMG]
     
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    yep. supports sli...but you might want to go back and rerun that at it's highest resolution....
     
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    ran at 900p beause I didnt think it would go higher o.o but ill try
     
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    this at me don? With stock voltage did 2 runs only. Got p12220 though :)
     
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    8xAA will also bring down the score.
     
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    Up the resolution. SF4's engine is very nice, but easy. Older cards in SLi can eat this game over 60 FPS. Even with AA, you should be fine.

    Up the resolution to 1920x1200, and remove vsync for the benchmark. Post your results, because I am very curious about the outcome.
     
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    Better score

    [​IMG]

    sli on
     
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    I wonder if I should ask Dell for my dual 4870s back.

    Are they better than the dual 280m setup in games? Or is it too close to bother?
     
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    You should ask dell for the 4870s back. :)
     
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    Tried to take a sreenshot of dirt 2 benchmark but all I got was a black screen.

    34 fps average. 2x AA no V synch 1200p.
     
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    Yes, SLi won't be running for this, and your results sound about right.

    As for SF4, I think you're confident about the performance now. I'd say that if you want--for the kicks--you could bump up the anti-aliasing to 8xCSAA without much a performance hit.

    Also, you might benefit from a CPU overclock. I belive that at the moment, the 2.0 GHz is a strong bottle-neck. I mean, that speed even bottlenecks 8800m GTS SLi configs, so naturally, your 280m could do much more damage if you made it to around the 2.4 GHz mark. You'll find that the SLi performance will be generally more stable consistent.
     
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    Not a groundbreaking score, but here is a good run I got out of the 186.64 drivers with 0 stutter :). Any overvolting of cards is leading to stutter. I am doing runs with screen brightness all the way down and all AlienFX LEDs off

    http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1730446

    P12244
    GPU: 11907
    CPU: 13379
     
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    Thanks for the info., Scook9. This is why I avoid getting into benchmarks, because stability doesn't always equate to highest scores. I'll give the drivers a try since I am in the mood to experiment.
     
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