When are the new Alienwares with Maxwell coming?

I am really really disappointed in Alienware.

 

That image before was the AW 15 (the image with the Christmas theme a few pages back), just a poor quality one.

It seems like they say the same crap over and over again about each of their systems in those "up close" videos. It's disappointing. What is Alienware doing?

 

Thank you very much ^^

Now all I need to see is the actual specs and available configurations of the laptop.

And later on the prices on their website

 

I have to admit I am intrigued at the level of performance that I full core i7 processor would have with the graphics amp

 

Must be because Alienware had plans to sell the 15 and 17 R2 at the same time as the 13.

All we know about specs are this:
CPU: i5-4210H and i7-4710HQ (maybe xx20 instead?)
GPU: GTX 965m or R9 m295x
Price starts at $1200
And that's about it for the important stuff. Most likely there's an M.2 bay and a 2.5" bay in the 15. 16 GB of RAM max, and the video should most of the ports. I bet we'l see the full details tomorrow.

 

At least it's going to have a quad-core processor! Seriously though, if they didn't offer one, I'd be so confused as to what the hell Alienware is doing.

Don't get me wrong, it's still pathetic, but not as pathetic as claiming a dual-core ULV will give gamers an "ultimate gaming experience." That's a big fat lie. Truth to this statement would be, "the illusion of an ultimate gaming experience until throttling kicks in and you lag to death - the ultimate throttle experience!"

Gigabyte P34 cooling setup:

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Alienware 15 cooling setup:

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I'm confused. Is this Alienware or Gigabyte?

 

The alienware one has 1 extra heatpipe

 

Alienware design team be like:

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I love giving Alienware a hard time these days. They put themselves in such good position to be the punch line of bad jokes. I'll probably end up with an AW 15, though.

 

Argh that is a big letdown... not an ATI (oops AMD) fan (too many issues over the years)

That's really what it was intended for, and where it will shine. It was probably effortless to introduce it with the AW 13, see what the issues were with a limited field introduction before launching with the 15/17 (and lets hope maybe still 18).

Wish I had the extra money right now, I would snap up an AW 17 with the 120 hz screen just for future's sake and the end of an era.

 

lol it just gets even worse, although single AMD is fine IMO and very respectable. Dual AMD is when the profiles for games start to never happen...

 

Agreed - all the issues I can think of revolve around SLI AMD setups...

 

Kept looking at the 15's motherboard shown in the video. From what I can tell, the 15 carries 1 HDMI port and Mini Display port, and Ethernet port, two audio ports (they may work like the two audio ports on the 13), 4 USB 3.0 ports (obviously 1 will have powershare), 1 GA port, and 1 SD card slot.
Speakers, like the 13, seem to be on the side since there is so much space on the left side of the 15. Not so sure if there is a subwoofer in the 15. The m14x's subwoofer was in the front, with its port right next to the CMOS battery's, and that's all I know.
Since the 17 R2's leaked page didn't say it, there should be no HDMI In port in the 15. Probably due to the hassle people encountered. Of course, I may be wrong on this.
And then this happens. And they're MXM compatible. Clevo does it again...

 

whoa, wonder how they are cooling that cpu..

 

It would be better to hold out for an X99 "Fat Boy" with 5930K or 5960X and 980M SLI.

Another problem with AMD is they no longer have a powerful mobile option by current standards. The R9 M290X and M295X are not any more powerful than 7970M/8970M GPUs. They are not keeping up with 2014/2015 performance expectation. The seem to like to stay 2 to 3 years behind on performance for some reason.

 

This is where I believe Alienware made a strategic error as few others have thought - it's probably inevitable to move to BGA, and the Graphics Accelerator is an answer to that, but they will lose future sales to folks who simply hold opt for one or two more generations of laptops for a different brand until there is no other choice but BGA components for builders to use and buy from a competitor, then sticking with that competitor out of familiarity instead of returning to Alienware.

 

I don't think we've actually gotten a real taste of the m295x, though (I don't count the iMac). Benchmarks say its between the 780m and 970m. That may be bad for a top-top end GPU, but when was the last time AMD refreshed their GPUs? I'm sure they'll come up something soon™.

 

Bahahahahahaha so let me get this straight:
Dell give you a 15" 4K display but doesnt give you a GPU powerful enough to play the games in 4K. They use GTX 965M (128bit, 1024 cores) but should have used GTX 980M (256bit,1536 cores). Instead, they brag about the Amplifier giving you the ability to play 4K games with a desktop GPU.

Summary:
"We nerf the hardware inside the notebook to force people to buy our Amplifier to fully use the 4K display"

Wouldnt it just be better to buy a damn desktop with an even bigger display if you are gonna force people buy the big Amplifier anyway?

 

Like I said: Alienware has turned into a punch line. The Alienware name is being destroyed.

They're treating this Amplifier like a golden goose. It's a bad joke wrapped in a nice package.

 

Maybe DX 12 API will extend the life.

I think I remember a quote along the lines of "Will provide a multi-generational leap in performance" -- AMD

 

I will get one for sure. thanks god I returned my 13!

 

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"Dude, they're $24 off. Gotta grab one NOW!"

 

Either that is a typo (should have said M290X), or you are gonna have a lot of fires in the coming months. The M295X shopts up to 90-95C within minutes inside the 27" iMac and they are gonna pack that inside a 15" notebook?

My money is on a typo

Have fun reading: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1815601

 

2048 Shaders huh...?

NO! WRONG!

This is AW 15 Edition full-throttle no compromise edition!

It gets 1280[1] just like the MXM M290X


[1] I don't actually know

 

I don't think it's a typo.
We'll have to see if the 15's cooling is better than the iMac's cooling. If the m295x throttles in the 15, then uh oh. If not, then ehh...

 

GT80 Titan is not appealing to me and the Clevo doesn't have the looks . Too much fanboy here.

Titan are garbage .. soldered processor on this too.

 

The cooling is probably a little better on the AW15 (dedicated fan for GPU) but it will still be impacted by a much smaller room for the heat vs the 27"iMac.

Its a reason why Alienware18/M18XR2 offer the best SLI cooling out there. Compare those against Aorus X7 for example.

As far as I know the TDP for M295X is skyhigh. We shall see though. Either way it will not be great (M290X much worse than 980M, M295X with very high temps)

 

Dell adds surely in throttling power settings .. Just as they do with all their latest Alienware laptops ..

 

I would have to say that it would be pure dumbness if there was a typo. The m290x would be less powerful than the GTX 965m. So why offer something that's too outdated.

 

It would be great if you could share with me the thread. Thanks!

Haven't seen anything this great a config yet. How long have you had it? How's cooling in the Area 51 with three GTX 980s?

I was about to pull the trigger on a Sager a few months back, but I just couldn't, and ever since have been waiting for the new Alienware. I am now so tempted to get the Area 51 with at least two GTX 980s. I should have never seen your signature the other day. I really don't want to end up spending for both an Area 51 and a new AW laptop - but I really need a laptop.

 

We shall see.
Remember that Alienware tries to satisfy two companies here, so they have to include GPUs from both.

But ask yourself this:
Isnt it strange to offer GTX 965M, a 65W GPU from Nvidia. And M295X, a 100W++ GPU from AMD?
Why not a 100W GPU from Nvidia also (970M/980M)?
Shouldnt they try to get the best from both companies for what thermals the notebook can handle?


Something is very fishy here

 

Can you just imagine how hilarious it would be if they offered a ulv i7 and a soldered r9 m290x to the consumer at normal alienware prices of 1500-2k LOL..... i can just imagine all the fanboys that have no idea of what they are paying for getting blatantly ripped off.

 

If this is the motherboard with hardware on Alienware then I become nauseous. I think I must go out to vomit. :rolleyes2:

 

The Alienware 51's CPU has a 12v 1.4A very thick NIDEC 120MM fan along with a copper-based AIO, which supports push/pull (has screw holes), it's similar to an H60 but better because of the better fan. It's good for around 200W or more of cooling. Cooling profile is EXCELLENT unlike the AW18 and I love it so much I'm using the default profile with a Corsair H105.

The other 2 chassis fans are made by Delta, which IMO makes the best fans in the world. The power supply is also made by Delta, who also manufacture the Antec High Current Pro series PSUs. All these fans are very very thick and max out around 3K or more RPM.

The 980s are reference so they use the Titan cooler with the absence of a vapor chamber. Mine hit mid 70s in 3DM11 and also hit their software cap of 81c in games like Crysis 3 and FC4. This can be remedied by increasing fan% OR raising their thermal and power cap.

The rest is interesting too. The SSD is a Samsung PM851 along with a WD Green 4TB if you go the 256/4 route. DDR4 is hit or miss but since DDR4 is so new they are forced to use the same chips as all the big companies, which means it overclocks well!

BIOS is awesome, miles ahead of the AW 18 unfortunately.

I've had it for 28 days.

My Experience with the New Alienware Area 51 R2 (2014): Damages, Packaging, and Other Issues - Alienware Forum - Alienware Club - Dell Community

 

Thanks a lot, Zero989!

 

Forgot to mention the motherboard is made by MSI and the VRMs for the CPU run very very cool (37c idle @ 1.8 VCCIN and hit around 47 in games @ 1.94)

Edit-

The Delta fans run at 4100RPM max. Incredibly loud.

 

Cheers! Will probably bug you more if I end up buying it.

 

Amplifier is good only for AW 13, for a laptop the dimension of 15" get a 980m instead with p35x or 650sg, they are both thinner & lighter than what AW 15 will be + 980m is within 20% of a desktop 980... AW please wake up, Amp is a good idea, but only with a quad core AW 13, which is pretty feasible, I have no idea what in the world are they doing?!

 

If you're gonna go the desktop route you should just build one yourself.

 

I agree with this unless one wants the Alienware experience, I happened to have saved money over building though. Put my Rampage IV Extreme to good rest.

It's not possible to build what I have at $5100CDN after taxes.

 

I realize I'll get better value for money if I build my desktop, however, I like the Area-51 chassis. I am not sure I can get that separately. In any case, at the moment, I need a laptop desperately. I'm waiting for the new AWs - even though I am not super excited from the gossips. Eventually, if I don't like the AW config, I'll just have to go with a Sager - and then I'll decide if I'll get the Area-51 chassis or build my own.

 

This is true if only price vs performance is the only consideration... having built systems for over 20 years... well, you just get a bit tired of the assembly side of the equation, and forget anything like a warranty if you want on a custom build. With the interesting design, build quality and time saved to me these days it's worth it to by a good pre-built system and then adjust and tweak it.

 

Its called forcing people to spend more money. Want a laptop with a GPU actually worthy of a high res display? Better move on up to the 17 inch for 300+ more dollars!

 

I doubt the high res display is standard. Options probably start at 1080p and go up.

 

Alienware 15 packs with GTX980M + 4k screen +I7 Processor.
This is what I want..
Btw, AW15 might only getting GTX965M...

 

I feel there is no need for me to go higher than 1080p without the 120Hz screen. Why Alienware why?!

 

I'll say one thing, even on a 13" screen going from 1080p to 1440p i@ 60hz s a significant visual difference that is positive. That being said, I game in 1080p for the performance (and it looks absolutely fine), getting a True Life display is worth it IMNSHO. Of all the Alienware's I have had, only my old M17x-R2 RGB LED at 1600x1200 rivals the quality.

 

I don't care, but I'm sure happy that they're removing those optical drives.

About the speakers...I believe they will be in the front of the laptop. Above those neon lines as seen in video, around 10th second from the start. You can see the shadows.

Also...is anyone worried about those Macro keys on the left side of Alienware 15? Will they make the typing experience somewhat offset just like HP Omen 15?

I heard...battery life, thinner, and lighter...and I'm liking them. I just hope that it's under 5.5 pounds. Laptops are made to be taken to places, not to break your back while you carry other things such as textbooks.

 

So everything is soldered in the new Alienware lineup?
Major grips thus far:
Soldered components (seriously.....what a joke)
Touch screen on a traditional hinge laptop. What is the point. Give us a high gamut RGB LED or IPS 1080P screen and call it a day. Everybody would be happy with this option
"thin". Its not even that thin. Considering that it now competes with the razer blade, obviously I would rather have the blade since its thinner, unibody aluminum, and packs a stronger GPU (when refreshed of course, no reason why we shouldn't see a 970M/980M in the blade)
Graphics amplifier. ITS BIGGER THAN THE LAPTOP!!!!!!! Who thought this was a brilliant idea? Kinda defeats the point of a laptop, no?
The design. still. sucks. Go back to M15x/M17x/M18x styling. Please. get rid of that cheapo bezel around the LCD.

 

except you forgot one thing, they can power throttle the GPU as much as they wanted, especially when their main goal is to sell you the graphics amplifier. from their design/market POV, the internal GPU is just there so that the machine can be properly called a gaming laptop

whichever amd gpu it has, it's probably a price match to the gtx 965m, on the other hand, having a gpu too powerful inside eats up the demand for amplifier

 

The fishy thing is AW wanting to sell their GA. It just so happens that M295X is a 100W and 965M is only a 65W. If they did give 970M/980M with the laptop - regardless of the thermal capacity of the laptop - AW would be on the wrong path to get their their GAs sold. Right or wrong, AW chose to make GA their flagship product - so they have to adjust their sales strategy accordingly.