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    [GSOD Fix?] Beta vBIOS update for G73JH

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Chastity, Aug 25, 2010.

  1. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    looks like this problem is going to last a while.. i hope fine is one of those GSOD free ones..
     
  2. Khaldum

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    sorry I forgot to mention when I said the (Non Modified) vBios my clocks GPU/Mem are all stock.

    I was never able to do that before this vBios
     
  3. Chastity

    Chastity Company Representative

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    1) Yes my bad on the long filename. Just rename it to something shorter, and change the update-od.bat with the new filename as well.

    2) The idea here folks is to get a working vBIOS that doesn't require and overclocking to get it stable. I spent the weekend banging my head against 10.8 with no viable success, so I reverted back to 10.7a until a new vBIOS is out.
     
  4. davtex

    davtex Notebook Enthusiast

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    This is weird. I updated to modified vBios(pretty sure I did), and I see the Overdrive tab in CCC but can't change anything.
     
  5. xxlmaster

    xxlmaster Notebook Geek

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    press the lock button
     
  6. wagnard

    wagnard Notebook Consultant

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    You got owned by a protection similar to the one found on new oven for children. :D *Need to unlock before cooking !*


    Edit: sorry for my bad english. I wrote a nasty word without noticing it. (french is my 1st language)
     
  7. Jody

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    Mine is like that too. I'm running the one Chastity modified.

    xxlmaster... what lock button? There is a check box, but it's grayed out too.
     
  8. davtex

    davtex Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hell :D, I found it. Sorry, this is my first red card.
     
  9. Chastity

    Chastity Company Representative

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    Click on the badly rendered lock icon in the upper left corner
     
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    iemie Notebook Consultant

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    *Need to unlock before cocking !*[/QUOTE wagnard]

    o_O
     
  12. Xellon

    Xellon Shinobi of the wind

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    I guess I should try the 10.8 drivers soon without vbios and see if it will gsod on me.

    edit - this was more of a random post to keep track of where I last read at :p

    I do plan on giving it a shot though
     
  13. TandooriChicken

    TandooriChicken Newbie

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    Hi everyone, long-time lurker and first-time poster here. Appreciate all the help on these forums in getting my G73 to work the way I want.

    I am posting because I noted something interesting yesterday while playing S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl. First, as background, I first came to this forum when I began having GSOD after performing clean install of W7Pro64 with Catalyst 10.7 and (not knowing any better), re-installing a bunch of the junk drivers ASUS included on their disc. So I started over AGAIN, this time with nothing but W7Pro64 and Catalyst 10.7. GSOD again. Nothing new there, and I was/am one of the lucky ones whose problem goes away (no GSODs in gaming, Furmark-stable) just with the overclock trick (temps "reasonable" too by 5870 standards, guess I got lucky with a decent paste job out of the box). Nothing new there.

    Here is what some of you more savvy folks may (or may not) find useful as we all battle the GSOD monster: I noticed a transient screen flicker during STALKER load identical to the one I get when I use AMD GPU Tool to overclock the gpu. Didn't pay it much mind until I started getting artifacting and GSODs yesterday. Not horrible, recovered quickly without reboot, so I alt-tabbed out and found that...

    ...somehow the game had reset the GPU clock to stock 700! I had no idea a game could do that! Manually reset the clock to 800 and gaming happiness restored! Alt-tabbed back into game and played for 4 hours, no GSODs, no nothing... (max settings, yadda yadda)

    So, for me anyway, gsod issue clearly related to clocks, likely the "unauthorised" and ill-advised self-downclocking these mobility gpus are known for. In addition, new discovery (for me): some games can apparently trigger gpu clock reset to stock... bizarre.
     
  14. Splintah

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    Just another update. Was playing mafia 2 pretty much 12 to 13 hours yesterday, with the clocks at 705/1100 on this vbios with bios 209. No crashes or problems whatsoever.
     
  15. Zapins

    Zapins Newbie

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    I posted on another forum, but nobody has replied with any good advice and my problem seems to be the same as what happens here. My question is (without reading through 37 pages of posts), is this problem fixable if I return my computer to ASUS? If is is what should I tell them so they fix the problem? I'd rather not reformat and try installing 100 different drivers and BIOS updates if possible.

    A brief description of my problem:
    For the past few months I have been getting gray/yellowish vertical bars on my laptop at random (though usually when I play Aion). The bars usually do not go away on their own without a restart. Today the bar screen has happened 5 times at random intervals and 4/5 of these times required a restart. The bars have not happened for the past 3 months except for once or twice during this time.

    A picture of the laptop during the problem:
    http://www.techsupportforum.com/har...rtical-bars-random-asus-g73j.html#post2866942
     
  16. Splintah

    Splintah Notebook Deity

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    that is a GSOD (they come in multiple colors)

    If you return your laptop to asus, they will just reinstall the 10.1 video drivers. Your best bet at getting current ATI video drivers to work properly is to flash the vbios you see in this thread.
     
  17. xxlmaster

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    same here 750/1050
     
  18. Chastity

    Chastity Company Representative

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    I'm currently working with Gary Key from Asus as a beta tester for a fix to the GSOD issue. So I would suggest sit tight here, and wait for the open beta trials.
     
  19. Zapins

    Zapins Newbie

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    Damn... I had envisioned ASUS replacing my video card for a new one. I've got a few questions for you Splintah if you don't mind answering them.

    1) Ok, so to fix it I should just flash my bios and it will work?

    2) Is there any benefit to keeping the newer video drivers vs. switching back to 10.1?

    3) Do I need to change to 10.1 before flashing the bios (if so, do you have a link to the 10.1 driver?).

    4) If I don't need to change to 10.1 how do I flash my bios? Also, I heard that flashing the GPU is risky and might cause damage, is it the same for the MB? Should I back up my data before flashing it?
     
  20. Splintah

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    This beta vbios works pretty well for me, so with the infrequency of the gsod's you seem to be getting it should seemingly work well for you also. Chastity will be releasing updated vbios, so if you don't want to try this one out you could wait around in this thread and check the feedback from the more recent ones that are going to be released.

    2) No real benefits to updating the drivers it seems unless you play Bad Company 2 or if you want to play the Final Fantasy game that is coming out soon, which doesn't work with the 10.1 drivers.

    3) You don't need to change any drivers before flashing the vbios, any version should work fine

    4) Flashing the vbios and bios are both risky, but if you do it properly I don't see there really being any problems. Just don't use winflash as it is known to frequently brick laptops. You should use the application atiflash. I believe there is another thread on here that describes in detail all the steps you need to take to get this setup.

    Edit: http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/498015-g73-gsod-fixes-resources.html

    This thread will show you how to set up your flash drive to flash the vbios
     
  21. wagnard

    wagnard Notebook Consultant

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    Woa... :eek: Thanks I fixed it. My bad english....
     
  22. Jody

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    Thank you for that. That sure doesn't look like a lock to me, but it certainly does the job. :)
     
  23. luca4s

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    if the official fix will change gpu clock 700/1000 than i kill you and Gary! :mad2:
    :D :D :D
    i haven't gsod with stock vbios and ati catalyst driver probably because i don't play more than 2 hours.
    but asus need to fix this issue anyway.
     
  24. jimbeamau

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    Thought I would post some results as I have been watching these threads daily for updates to fix these issues. Although I seem to have some different results to others. I have also flashed bios while changing through these different vbios's as required.

    Original Bios was running ok with or without minor overclock. Either way still had a few gsod's here or there. Was running 10.5 and then 10.7a.

    Beta bios done nothing for me. Got crashes in games within 10 minutes. Tried changing drivers through the various with the same results. Applied slight overclock, which also provided same results.

    Back to stock vbios, no luck there either now. Since the flash to beta vbios I found that I was no longer stable on 10.7a even with the slight overclock that was being used before. This is more unstable than it was before the first flash to the beta vbios.

    Thought why not try ziddy's v3 since we have a more unstable machine than before. It seemed to work for others and help with there issues. Well that seems just as bad running 10.5 or 10.7a. Currently running this one though as it is the most stable vbios out of the 4 I've got.

    Now everyone's favorite benchmark furmark, I can run that all day on stock clocks. Running in the background now for over 15 minutes, yes I know its not 1080p and all that, but I've never had a problem with it. Runs fine on every vbios that I've used at stock clocks.

    So all in all, what was a fairly functional G73 is now in a worse state than before. GSOD's are more frequent than before any of the changes in the vbios.
     

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  25. xxlmaster

    xxlmaster Notebook Geek

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    can someone be so kind and upload the original vbios to my (they should be all the same, right)?
    Gonna RMA my unit and wanna put the original one back, so there cant be any complayns later.
     
  26. CavemanK

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    dont forget to press f9 in the logo to recover your os to manufacture defaults
     
  29. xxlmaster

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    can some1 upload the bios somewhere else, cant dl from ML somehow....
     
  30. lord_neno

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    original vbIOS: http://pcaudio.org/stuff/vbiosG73Stock.zip


    My g73 works witouth gsod with vbios beta and 10.7a, but We are testing it in asusxperts and some users get GSOD with " League of Leguends " and 10.8
     
  31. xxlmaster

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    @lord_neno

    Tnx for the bios.
     
  32. Chastity

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    You're welcome :p
     
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    You guys are awesome haha

    I just had my first nightmare with the new Furmark 2 pic and I didn`t sleep yet!
    I guess I`m not ready for the /monocle tea club...

    And Chastity, since I`m sure our g73s were made by the same qualified people, its always good time when I see your updates : )

    When I go home today, probably I`ll backup everything and test at least bios 209, ccc 10.8 and the new vBIOS with my new GSOD machine: LOST PLANET! (witch is such a nice game by the way!)

    If I don`t come back here with some results, please give my card a nice funeral haha.

    Cya
     
  35. Splintah

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    I was actually thinking of installing lost planet too also just now
     
  36. Chastity

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    Here's a copy of an email I sent Gary on my findings for today. Perhaps some feedback from the userbase may provide more insight:

    On a side note, I'd like to mention that Overdrive is working properly on this vBIOS as opposed to v3. v3 beforehand would set the memory clocks, but wouldn't set the gpu clock. (stayed at 700) Maybe this was one of the issues it had with Powerplay. This beta vBIOS sets my 705/1100 properly, and Powerplay downclocks to 405 when idle, but keeps the 1100 memory setting.
     
  37. ziddy123

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    That's not how OverDrive works. OverDrive clockspeeds only work when CCC detects 3D. Meaning your memory and core overclocks do not take effect until you start a game.

    So it seems OverDrive is broken in both V3 and your beta vBios. In V3 the memory wasn't working as it should, but the core was. In your beta vBios looks both core and memory are broken. I hope Asus fixes OverDrive so it works properly for both core and memory.
     
  38. Jody

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    The one you modified that I am running will run at 405/1000 when plugged in. On battery it drops to 250/500. I've never seen it lower mem clock unless I remove AC power.
     
  39. xxlmaster

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    Overdrive should set the clocks 24/7 (@ least its so with desktop)
    for example if u turn the clocks to high in overdrive and the rig will crash, u will not be able to boot it up again(crash before logon). Only help is boot safe mod.

    So far i have set all my clocks with msi afterburner. You can set 2D and 3D values what u like and they work well.
     
  40. ziddy123

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    It stays at 1100 because the OverDrive in her beta vBios is completely broken. It's broke for both Core and Memory. The memory fubar is the same as v3 where it sets the memory permanently to 1100. If OverDrive isn't used, it should be like yours.

    PowerPlay is supposed to have multiple settings. With OverDrive lots.

    #1 High Performance (Stock 700/1000)
    #2 UVD, Video Playback (500/1000 or something)
    #3 Battery Mode (100/200)
    #4 2D Mode (100/200), even with AC on, if CCC detects only 2D viewing like Word Processor.
    #5 OverDrive (Overclock Settings, only in 3D)

    At minimum that's what PowerPlay should be.
     
  41. ziddy123

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    Nope wrong, it's not 24/7 even for Desktop. It's only when CCC detects 3D. You can look it up straight from the words of AMD.

    But was just thinking about it, I think the reason why OverDrive works they way it does for G73 is because the G73 doesn't have a 2D state. It's in constant 3D state, but for some reason the Core does like to drop down to default cores without 2D state for the v3 Bios.

    But then, I haven't looked at the beta vBios to see if it has a 2D clock. I know on my V3 vBios, there was no 2D state, only battery. And I used the 2D with power plugged in but using short cut key to switch between battery mode and power mode.

    That's my guess, no proper 2D state. It would seem 24/7 for desktop since they do have 2D state, and ramps up to OverDrive clocks whenever not in 2D mode.
     
  43. xxlmaster

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    ok, maybe

    But why is it gonna crash in reboot if u have ocd it to much? There is no 3D on startup :rolleyes:

    Anyway, i only need two kind a values. Low clocks in idle and max in 3D (ofc low in bat also) and MSI Afterburner can do that.
    Or i can make a profile in ccc for it. :cool:
     
  44. ziddy123

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    There was a fail safe measure AMD put in for CF. Is your desktop happen to be CF?
     
  45. xxlmaster

    xxlmaster Notebook Geek

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    jep

    Happend with HD4870x2 and HD5970

    :cool:
     
  46. ziddy123

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    If you go to Guru3D Forums and Rage3D forums there are a few threads that addressed that. There was a reason why AMD did what they did, forget what the exact reason was, but it was done on purpose, it's not a bug.
     
  47. Gary Key

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    Update-

    GSOD - I am working on an alternative theory about why some notebooks will GSOD and others will not with the same drivers, BIOS, and vBIOS loaded. This machine was recently returned directly to me due to GSOD and overheating issues. Sure enough in Furmark (yes I used it... :D ) it would GSOD after 20 minutes or so and in gaming it took me about an hour to get StarCraft II to fail.

    So after fooling around with power management settings and updating to the 10.8 drivers (no BIOS or vBIOS update) the machine is operating well now and yes the temps appear a little high but well within the spec. I manually shut the machine down right before the 8-hour mark so we could test StarCraft II now. Anyway, this might mean something, it might not yet but I wanted to post up for those who think I have disappeared this week. I sort of have but for a reason. ;)

    Full Image here - http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/3549/g73jhfullfurmarka.jpg

    [​IMG]
     
  48. EuThiago

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    Lost Planet and FFXIV Benchmark also help if you`re seeking for some GSOD and freeze makers.

    Good Luck, Have Fun!
     
  49. ziddy123

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    Reading between lines, I have suspicion this is either Quagmire's or my notebook :p Hope to see it soon. Was told by a tech that my notebook did well in Furmark but not in games with a different vBios.

     
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    do you have the boingo installer on your desktop?
     
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