ASUS G73JH-A1 with ATi Mobility Radeon HD 5870 1GB GDDR5

If the time between getting an A1 and A2 turns out to be great, will some of us get the option of not getting a blue ray and switching to an A2.

In other words, I don't need the blue ray if it is going to be a huge difference between ship dates.

 

Come on A1s!

 

Oh, some good and relevant news in this long thread, finally.

 

That's exactly what he just answered for you in the the text you quoted from him!

 

Epic pwn!



10char

 

I assumed he meant people who took the blue ray out of the A1. I guess what my mom said about assuming was correct.

 

First most of my classes get canceled today, and then justin brings this great news..BEST DAY EVER!!!

 

If this is the best day ever then how is delivery day going to rate?

 

I think we will see on Youtube videos like ''Nintendo 64!!!!!!!!!!!'' , but named as ''Asus G73!!!!!!!!!!!!''

Sorry for the bad English

 

hey, Chris, I thought you said you were bailing out of the preorder bandwagon?

 

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Now.....fwefkwkevmjklwemvwe

 

Lol it's fun to see all of us G73JH followers and preorder-ers leaving comments about how shocked we are at its Friday shipment.

 

if i ordered mine with a primary hd as a 80g SSD, after having Windows 7 and all the asus programs and office 2007 installed how much space you think ill have left for my games and other applications?

 

Totally wrong man, stock stuff is actually pretty good these days, when I replaced my W90 TIM with AS5 my temps maybe dropped by 1C at load.

Point of the matter is that the CPU will run cool and the tempature is never going to be concern from a performance standpoint. Your overclock and stability will be the same if the cpu is 40c or 60c.

Overclocking the cpu has almost no effect on its temperature by just raising the clocks, the real heat gain is when voltage is increased and thats not something you normally do without a hardmod.

The only reason to have super high end TIM is if your overvolting the cpu and have a high end cooling system to compliment it.

If your taking apart the laptop or if your doing a cpu upgrade its one of those things you do for the sake of it, but there is no need to tear apart a machine just to put the better TIM on there, and definitely no need to pay "only" $35

Id install TIM for you guys all day at $35 a pop, id be freakin ritch.. takes all of 10 minutes so say 5 laptops an hour... 5x35... $175 an hour job.

I'll take it!

 

Lol. I actually didn't expect it THIS early.
Anyways I'm happy! I get to see how this thing performs on Saturday

 

Performance boost in a normal use definitely not, but if your running multiple VM machines it would help once you go past the 8GB mark in ram use.

 

Yeah but you forgot one thing..... You void your warranty by doing that. The $35 option still has the warranty.

 

Just my opinion, but if the units arrive on Friday why target a review to be done and posted the very next day. In interest for a quality review and not just rights for "first post" there is no way to do a quality review in 1 day.

I really dislike those quickly generalized review like NBR does, 99% of the time you could ascertain just as much information as those reviews supply just by looking at the product specs page.

A real review is in depth and complete.

Since NBR will already be doing one of those quicky reviews why not take the time and show is a piece of art and not just a picture. Know what I mean?

 

Did anyone notice that people who are getting the G51jx is stating that they are getting 1333mhz instead of 1066mhz ram. I wonder if that will happen with this one as well.

 

True, the reseller takes over the warranty for you when they mod the machine. But still your paying $35 for no real reason.

I wouldnt be doing it for no reason, I would be doing it for a cpu upgrade or something after the warranty is over. Plus I know how to not break the seals.

 

i got a text msg earlier today telling me dat somthg good will happen this week...guess this is it!!

 

It's possible that G73Jh might get the 1333 Mhz RAM as well.

 

wow... that is awesome, Ken. So what happens to people who already pick the upgrade option? Do they get a refund?

 

Btw guyssss....it's already friday-delivery day here....huhuhuhuhuhu

 

I would agree with you on the cpu Ic Diamond, but on the gpu.... Those few degrees cooler with the better thermal compound will help when/if we need to overvolt the gpu to get to the higher clocks.

 

Yes who already upgrade will get the refund if it turn out to be 1333.

 

You do realize I was kidding in that post, right? Or did I just get Rick Rolled? hahaha

 

I did see on xoticpc.com that the new G51's RAM is 1333mhz

 

haha, Chris, I thought you were for real lol. Although I have been wondering why your sigi wasn't changed.

It wouldn't surprise me if you had bailed though, after so many other "supporters" did. I was contemplating AW M17X for a little while until my sanity (and wallet) got the better of me

 

Just saw this from the reseller I'm buying from here in Australia.

"Hi, I have received the information from Asus for the processor (CPU) upgrades and they are as follows:

"Unfortunately, any modification of the current CPU in the notebook will void warranty, even if conducted by a qualified IT technician"

By this he means thermal paste too as that's what the debate's been about.

Is it different in the US?

 

I'm pretty sure that's what happens in US too.
Just to make it easier I just paid $35 for IC Diamond 24.

 

So why would you pay to get something that is arguably not necessary, and void your warranty?

 

Yeah we changed on G51Jx as well, but we want to wait till we received the G73Jh to make sure if it's 1066 or 1333.

 

Qualified technician and authorized retailer/technician would be two separate things.

 

it's necessary for me

 

Ken, you guys are getting g73jh tomorrow too?

 

I have ICD7 on my GPU's even replaced the thermal pads but nobody said anything about the GPU only cpu and I do not think there is an option for resellers to put it on the GPU for you.

Interesting enough though when I did replace my dual 4870s with the ICD24 my temperatures did not get lower. The reason for this is pretty simple.

Stay with me here because this is something most people never take to mind when they think about computer cooling.

If you have a standard box house fan and it has 3 settings low, medium, high. Each of those settings are static. They always move just as much air and at the same speed.

If you were hot and stood infront of you fan to cool off you can do two things to make it faster/better. You can increase the speed of the fan from low to medium/high. Or you can increase the TIM normally your TIM is your skin, but if you splash some water on yourself water conducts heat better and will disperse the heat into the air at a higher rate.

The exact same thing is true for computer cooling, to make a component cool faster you can increase the speed of the fan or you can increase the means by witch heat is wicked away.

The big catch 22 here is that computer cooling is not a static speed. Its not just low/med/high it in real time increases or decreases the speed of the fans based on the current temperature. The laptop itself is going to regulate the temperature of the card no matter how good the thermal conductance of your TIM is.

So your left in this situation. If your card normally runs at 70c with the stock TIM and you put the new stuff on, you find it still runs at like 70c... The reason is thats the temperature the bios is programed to keep the card at. If the cooling system is indeed beter than before the fan speed could be lower and that is a benefit but you wont actually get cooler temperatures unless before the upgrade your fans were 100% and at there limit.

I definitely noticed my W90 fans being on low more often and they would barely even spool up to high under the most demanding load from the better TIM but the temperature of the cards never went down and my overclock never got better than it was before. You can take my word on that I put a ton of testing into it.

With desktop cards more often than not people put aftermarket coolers on there cards that are not regulated, just normal 12v fans that run at max speed all the time and thats why the better TIM/Cooler can do its thing.

Note that not every laptop handles fan regulation the same way, instead of changing the rpm for every single degree of temperature it may only have like 8 stops or maybe even as few as 3... So the better TIM may cool your card down just a bit because its getting the same or close to the same amount of air into the cooling system as before but there is no guarantee, and it seems the more high end the system is (like the w90) the more likely it is that you wont really see a benefit because there cooling system is designed to regulate better.

 

The place I'm buying from is an Authorised reseller but due to this advice he won't touch the CPU. Seems like a bit of a grey area to me.

Can Ken or Justin clarify?

 

Yes we are getting it tomorrow and for those who order G73Jh-A1 with downgrade to DVD we will just ship A2 instead.

 

dang I can't wait to see the benchmarks of this thing.

 

Its been discussed in detail before about what is happening.

The reality of it is that changing the TIM or modifying any part of the system that would void the warranty by a reseller still voids the warranty. What happens is the reseller then puts its own idential warranty on the machine for you in its place. They become responsible for your machine and not directly from ASUS anymore.

Imagine you had upgraded the cpu and all this other stuff, you cant send it to ASUS for a replacement because they do not make/ship units configured like that, its all at the reseller level.

This is my understanding from prior conversations.

 

Thanks for the clarification. I did a little bit of Googling and didn't come up with much other than explaining that thermal paste wouldn't void the warranty but CPU exchange from order customization would.

It would be nice to hear from Ken or Justin about this. There is an open discussion on the XoticPC forums about this very topic, but it was never answered by an XoticPC rep.

Source: http://www.xoticpcforums.com/showthread.php?t=5325&highlight=warranty

 

Yeah I think it's worth getting a firm position on this, especially for those outside the US that buy from the US. You don't want to be sending the laptop back to the US retailer if there's ever any problems with it. Not much of a global warranty in that case.

 

Oh noes! Maybe my American slang/sarcasm doesn't translate into OZ properly...

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=5820747#post5820747

Notice I said "Psyche" and then proceeded to welcome Vicious. Argh... Lost in translation!

 

I want to keep talking, we have a lot of good conversations going on, but I have to work in less than 2 hours and have been up all day since yesterday before work. I really need to turn in here soon and will be back on later tonight at work.

I may have my unit on Saturday so you guys can look forward to my in depth review. If you have never read one of my reviews before you in for quite a treat.

I still need to put up a Q&A on the crew members lounge to answer those basic questions asked over and over again and I do believe I will start a new owners lounge to replace the "crew members lounge" as soon as I get my unit so we can really get the creative juices flowing and collaborate our efforts together for the machine.

 

+1. The failure in my logic was basing it on my dekstop computer experience. However, if we could use Rivatuner to set the fans at a static speed... We will see once I get my laptop with the premium thermal compound and measure it against someone with stock compound. It might not be apples to apples though because of ambient temps etc...T

 

i'll be waiting for it Vicious! I guess you're doing overnight shipping?

 

Well with everyone getting all ansy now. Makes you wonder with so many laptops coming in at once if they have a ton of techs waiting to apply all the customizations to get them done in a timely manner or you have the one 98 year old guy in the closet with a dim light forced to work 24 hours a day, HAHA.

 

ViciousXUSMC

when you review your Asus G73jh, can you put some images of the BIOS?

tnx

edit: i mean pictures

 

Man, all I've done the past week when I get home is sit behind the computer and watch new e-mail notifications pushed to my systray so I can check and see what's up with the G51JX and G73JH. :-/