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    ASUS G73JH-A1 with ATi Mobility Radeon HD 5870 1GB GDDR5

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by iaTa, Dec 31, 2009.

  1. 0100 1010 0101 0011

    0100 1010 0101 0011 Notebook Evangelist

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    yup, just took temps for someone in the Owner's thread. After 4 hours of idle internet browsing only, here is what I got..
    [​IMG]
     
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    Can someone please run a GPU temperature benchmark on this thing while you play like MW2 for like 30 minutes or so on stock clock settings? So far, I think we've only seen GPU temperatures during overclocks, which i'm not really interested in as I will most likely never overclock.
     
  3. DDog

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    Can you say what sites have the a2 in stock please? Thanks.
     
  4. euisungkim

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    probably no retailers have a2 in stock right now..
     
  5. 0100 1010 0101 0011

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    This forum is about helping each other. Since you already ordered yours, it wouldn't hurt to name drop would it? You would help other members, and the site you mention will have their entire stock sold today! Be a sport, and drop that name!

    Wish I could, but my 3 year old are playing Chutes and Ladders. Then off to a Super Bowl Party. Ziddy, watcha doin for the next 30 min?
     
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    Hey guys, I've been browsing through this forum for a while just checking on all the latest news on this laptop before I decided to purchase it.

    I want to place my preorder, but am having a hard time deciding what thermal compound to use (money not an issue). Without trying to turn this into a lengthy discussion, do you think A5S or IC diamond would be better for extending the life span of the laptop the most? Obviously as the IC diamond is priced higher, one can assume its better, but because its a completely different set of materials, I wanted to hear an opinion first.
     
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    if you're not going to overclock, just go with no thermal compound.
     
  8. sl1982

    sl1982 Notebook Guru

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    IC Diamond might give you 1 degree diff over the as5 if lucky. They are both pretty good.
     
  9. <<IbaneZFurU>>

    <<IbaneZFurU>> Notebook Guru

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    After using this notebook for months, fans will have dust a lot... Do we have access to reach fan area? Or we have to give it back to Asus for cleaning it?
     
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    Acapella75 Notebook Guru

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    Does this model have the issue where the multiplier is locked on battery? That seems to be effecting a lot of other users of laptops from various manufacturers with these mobile i7 chips.
     
  11. SoundOf1HandClapping

    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    Hmm. Those temperatures don't bode well.

    What thermal paste are you guys using?
     
  12. evensen007

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    It's no different than what most 260gtx G51j owners get.
     
  13. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    G51j owners didn't have a dual-fan setup. And while it is a more powerful GPU, Asus could have done better.
     
  14. evensen007

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    They didn't have this kind of horsepower. :p

    Also, those are overclocked temps.
     
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    I was told that anyting over 5 minutes is not necesarry, so here is about 10 minutes of gaming...
    Crysis
    Full Screen
    1080 resolution
    Very High settings on everything
    AMD GPU Tool running entire time
    [​IMG]
     
  17. dune10191

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    Those are very good temperatures!

    Good job Asus.
     
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    And NO cooler under it. The G73 was sitting on my kitchen counter, 72degrees room temp, no fans. This is what you should expect if you open the bo, load the game, and start gaming.
     
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    I'm hoping someone with some more experience with temp logging (Mandrake, Quad, anyone?) can shed some light on which of those 3 temps we should be looking at or if we should be averaging them. Cataclysm stated what he thinks the 3 measurements stand for, but I am just wondering if there is one that is more important than others or if you just ballpark average them.
     
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    Yes, those averages are really good for playing Crysis maxed out for 10 mins (with a utility running in the background) on a very powerful laptop.
     
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    No those are not good temperatures. There is no argument. A cooler won't do much either.
     
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    I am convinced that this is the laptop for me, the a2 version. is it in stock anywhere right now?.... i am notebooklesss since I have sold my dell.
     
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    How do you figure? He's avg in the 50's....that's pretty damn cool for gaming on those settings...
     
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    We don't know, contact resellers.
     
  25. dune10191

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    Testing at those settings my g51vx would have peaked at maybe even 100C and leveled off at 87C or possibly 84C or so. Would be nice to think I won't have to lug my $80 cooler around anymore.

    Still, will have to see some 4 hour tests but this looks very promising. Was that stock thermal paste?

    Also wondering, is the lid that rubber material like the hand-rest or is it some sort of matte plastic?
     
  26. eazy_e

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    im getting 56c idle while surfing the net with my gpu? how is 50 ish bad temps I am also wondering?

    Ambeint temps in a room =15-30c
    having electricity running through a board=heat

    ever use an old stove top that has electricity run through it? notice how it gets hot??

    100c is warm. not hot because it is basically the measurement of amps running through the board and a calculation on how much resistance occurs and how much heat is dissapated through lost EMF?

    so 25c-50c of heat energy lost in the process=cold
     
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    Idle should be in the 40s or low 50s. Max should be 80 but should only reach that with furmark or crysis. Still, my GPU never goes past 75 deg.
     
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    Is your GPU also the 5870 or is it some completely unrelated card?
     
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    I don't understand why over 5 mins is not necesarry. Even your 10 mins don't suffice for me. Try gaming 30 full mins or even an hour, any less = no real gaming stress...thats how my laptop works, so I'll test any other laptop the same way.
     
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    Stock paste, 7200rpm platers, everything stock. Also, the top of the lid IS the same rubber-infused material that is on the palmrests. The bottom and the screen bezel are just a hard plastic
     
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    I don't know any MODERN laptop gpu that idles that low. My g51's 260gtx idles at 63 just web surfing! Maybe your 2 year old 9800gts idles at 45-50, but no enthusiast level gpu released from the 260gtx on idles and runs that low.

    Crysis will bring a gpu up to full temps in 5-10 minutes. It will go up +1-2 after that but nothing more. I have tested this on my G51 with dragon age. Once you hear the fans kick on (2 minutes after starting the game) you know the gpu is climbing fast. It never goes up after the initial beating in that 5-10.
     
  32. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    I've owned about 4 or 5 myself in the last year. So is this a keeper till an SLI 5870 or better comes around? ;)
     
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    Well, I guess using Asus' G series lowers your cooling expectations. Have you seen the 260m temperatures in the m15x and m17xx?
     
  34. hazardic

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    well my both 280 idles at 40
     
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    You know, i hope asus do a revision of the w90, that'd be a solid 5 series dual gpu machine :).

    But yeah i agree, for crysis maxed those are a tad too hot (peak temp) for me, (was it oc'd sorry?)

    Alienware seems to iron out cooling, but make the laptops fairly broken in an area,

    My 4850 idles at 45, and hits 50 when browsing,

    Eeek, went over the pictures, jeez 86-96 is rather bad guys, i have to say.
     
  36. Partizan

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    I hope you are right about the g73jh. My laptop keeps rising for hours untill the gpu shuts down for a min, with a black screen, then I can play a few more mins.

    I wonder how the g73jh will work during the summer with 35-40 celcius environment temperatures after long hours of gaming.
    Afterall, its during summer that most laptops start suffering from overheating.
     
  37. evensen007

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    Ok, too hot for you. Got it.

    I'm also waiting for Mandrake or Quad to maybe shed some light on the 3 different readings we get from ATI tool. One more important than the others, or need to average them. I am perfectly comfortable with those temps. I guess the G series HAS lowered my expectations! :p
     
  38. euisungkim

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    lol I gotta think it this way - it's alot cooler than previous g series laptops.
     
  39. 0100 1010 0101 0011

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    These were the temps after browsing for 4 hours
    [​IMG]
     
  40. catacylsm

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    Very good temps! in this case, due to the nature of the G73'S cooling system, i would also say its able to allow you to browse on your leg/sat on your bed etc etc, if its intaking from the top then it should be good! :D.

    Hows the fan throttling etc, is it a constant on or does it start at stages etc?
     
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    ^^ perfectly fine :)
     
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    50 is still good but it can go lower if the powermizer or what ATI calls it is enabled.
     
  43. catacylsm

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    ATI power play can go lower if set to max battery (In ccc), and powermizer i dont quite know what settings to change for that haha

    You'l also notice ATI temps raise when plugged into external monitors (i think) actually adds quite a few C to mine.
     
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    i've owned a lot of laptops and i would have to say that the M17x and the w90vp have the best cooling systems ever. those are the only laptops that would never need a cooling pad.
     
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    what is the difference between the A1 and the A2 ??? i can't seem to find one comparing them
     
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    I get the low rez benchmarks to keep results comparable with a machine that has that at its max rez, (like 1680 x 1050 to compare to the msi when it comes out) and that reviews sometimes use super low rez benchmarks to test the cpu more than the gpu on certain cpu intensive games, etc. However sometimes the higher rez benchmarks vary considerable between different gpus that were neck and neck at the next few resolutions "down".
    I just don't get people that run non-native rez on their lcd to actually play a game. I'm a stickler for native rez - and some people who request lower rez benchmarks actually run the game at that rez to squeeze extra frames per second out of a game like crysis. Many gaming notebook reviews on sites show scores on various gaming notebooks in the spirit of "very playable at 1680 x 1050" on X machine whose native rez is 1920x1080, not just as a bench comparison number. Whoever owns their machine can knock themselves out and all but I would never do that personally. Seeing lower rez benchmarks quoted for playable fps in a game just annoys me slightly lol.

    There's a difference between benchmarking for numbers, 5 min stress testings and real world testing. Running an intensive game for 5 mins vs hours may only have a 1 -2 deg temp difference, but a longer test might better test component durability like the solder, paste etc, and chip artifacting if its running hot. Usually people don't want to test that long except incidentally from actually using the thing lol. People just got these in their hands but all night gaming session feedback will come soon I'm sure.
     
  47. hazardic

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    u forgot some sagers :p
     
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    A1 has a Blue ray player and A2 has a DVDRW.
     
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    One is a limited OC edition which means you can overclock the GPU a lot more
     
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