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    ASUS G73JH-A1 with ATi Mobility Radeon HD 5870 1GB GDDR5

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by iaTa, Dec 31, 2009.

  1. kurtcocaine

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    Awesome thermal design, but
    1. doesnt it make notebook coolers redundant if its pulling air in from the front?
    2. won't it be a pain to clean?
     
    kurtcocaine, Jan 5, 2010
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  2. Master Mizzrym

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    Any idea how long the battery will be able to last if you underclock the processor/full power saving? I'll be needing to run mine on battery from time to time (but plugged in for gaming of course).
     
    Master Mizzrym, Jan 5, 2010
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  3. -=$tR|k3r=-

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    Hey Drake,

    From the rear, do you see a M17x'ish appearance in it's design, LOL!

    :D
     
    -=$tR|k3r=-, Jan 5, 2010
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  4. Donald@Paladin44

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    Ok, so please don't shoot the messenger...BUT:

    "G73JH-A1 has been removed from January price list, schedule delayed to February."
     
    Donald@Paladin44, Jan 5, 2010
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  5. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    I am betting you won't need a cooler!

    :D
     
    -=$tR|k3r=-, Jan 5, 2010
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  6. l3g4cy99

    l3g4cy99 Notebook Evangelist

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    did we crash the main forums for the ASUS part?
     
    l3g4cy99, Jan 5, 2010
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  7. HSN21

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    40-50min average browsing with save mofe/underclocked Asus built in mode
    20-30min gaming

    ^ My guess only

    official PR mostly is your battery life when Computer is at idle/save mode/brightness low/wifi off :eek:
     
    HSN21, Jan 5, 2010
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  8. -=$tR|k3r=-

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    No problem here..... I still got my pre-order in!

    The longer wait is a bummer though!

    :D
     
    -=$tR|k3r=-, Jan 5, 2010
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  9. Mandrake

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    1. I don't see vents on the front so I don't know how accurate that pic is.
    2. don't see why it would be.

    yes, on how it tilts up.
     
    Mandrake, Jan 5, 2010
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  10. HSN21

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    That was expected, the CES G73 Case seems unfinished
     
    HSN21, Jan 5, 2010
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  11. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    It's all your fault!! lol!

    I'm waiting for what else CES has to offer before pulling the trigger.
     
    Mandrake, Jan 5, 2010
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  12. Mandrake

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    SHOCKED after your experience with Asus. ;)
     
    Mandrake, Jan 5, 2010
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  13. Zero989

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    /slits wrists
     
    Zero989, Jan 5, 2010
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  14. l3g4cy99

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    oh well, my order's still locked in also!! And with the Raid option, no need to think about a SSD now!! atleast for me
     
    l3g4cy99, Jan 5, 2010
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  15. Mandrake

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    IMO, RAID is still weak in notebooks. The controllers are usually sub-par. We'll see how this one is.
     
    Mandrake, Jan 5, 2010
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  16. l3g4cy99

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    Asus is reputable for there MOBO's with RAID, I wouldnt be suprised if this exceeds some peoples expectations.
     
    l3g4cy99, Jan 5, 2010
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  17. Lanaya

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    Raid isn't even close to an SSD. Raid might have high read/write speeds but still has the same access times, which kills it. the main selling point of an SSD is its tiny *less than .1ms* access times.
     
    Lanaya, Jan 5, 2010
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  18. l3g4cy99

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    May not have the seek speeds, but it will none the less speed it up regardless over regular drives.
     
    l3g4cy99, Jan 5, 2010
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  19. Quicklite

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    Overkill much?!?

    I wonder how much they underclocked the core frequency by. Really hope they don't do 1600 SPs @ 500 mhz-ish, and swap-in GDDR3 the last min... Just expect the best, and fear the worst that's all.
     
    Quicklite, Jan 5, 2010
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  20. Lanaya

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    not in a noticeable way..I've used raid on the G51VX and it showed little to no real world gains..
     
    Lanaya, Jan 5, 2010
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  21. travitar

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    Why fight about it? Just RAID a pair of SSDs.

    edit: Are there bandwidth issues in doing that?
     
    travitar, Jan 5, 2010
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  22. Mandrake

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    There are TRIM issues with doing that.
     
    Mandrake, Jan 5, 2010
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  23. dondadah88

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    the whikebook had a good raid bios. i dont remember if i save me benchmark from hdtune.

    quicklite i like the nokia n900 in your pic. i was looking at it but no multitouch killed me. i'm using the palm pre right now. and i'm looking at the hero
     
    dondadah88, Jan 5, 2010
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  24. Phinagle

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    That's the worst option. The faster a single drive is by itself the less benefit you gain from going RAID.


    1xSSD (OS & Apps) and 1xHDD (Storage)
     
    Phinagle, Jan 5, 2010
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  25. HSN21

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    Access time is not the main selling point to me and to many other people, 3xReading/writing speed is the main selling point for most professional users who "Needs" the faster writing/reading, however access point make everything a breeze definitely for the average user but it's not required, a lot of the professional users work is not possible without raid :( plus opening files with those huge DSLR photos in RAW takes FOREVER without Raid
     
    HSN21, Jan 5, 2010
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  26. travitar

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    A quick google searched and I fully understand what you mean. Thanks :)
     
    travitar, Jan 5, 2010
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  27. Quicklite

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    Like EIement said, Its only in certain specific IO intensive environment, that RAID-0 technology shows decent gain. Even then the difference is not clear-cut as days and nights, as you feel when upgrading to a decent SSD, (X-25M) from 5400 rpm 2.5 drives.

    Normally RAID-0 gives pretty marginal gains that's all, they generally don't scale the performance proportionally with spinning disk - SSD is different though, as the scaling there is often much more obvious.

    Plus RAID-0 brings twice the probability of data loss, if one drive fails - then kiss all your data goodbye. Not to mention that since both drives are almost always-on, the battery gets hit quite a bit.


    @dondadah88, its a great phone with awesome software - if only the hardware was as good and innovating, resistive TS + 5MP camera is a bit old in 2010. Going for a SE X10 next myself.
     
    Quicklite, Jan 5, 2010
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    tallan, Jan 5, 2010
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  29. Quicklite

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    I wouldnt mind a laptop - but this is way too expensive and overkill for a non-gaming uni student... :(
     
    Quicklite, Jan 5, 2010
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  30. Vitor711

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    I like the fact that for a non-gaming uni student such as yourself this is too expensive while a gaming uni student like me sees it as incredibly cheap (for what I'm getting at least - $1645 is still a lot of money)
     
    Vitor711, Jan 5, 2010
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  31. Quicklite

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    It all comes down to the usage I suppose. :)

    I don't really see the need of a laptop, when the labs here open 24/7, got fast net speed, and are filled with 2.8Ghz C2Q desktops, with some 3Ghz Nehalem workstations for video editing - getting a laptop actually means less processing power.

    Having tried M1730 in the past, I know I'd just waste the graphical processing power, where as the CPU is often the bottleneck for me - I do some editing these days.
     
    Quicklite, Jan 5, 2010
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  32. iwantanewlaptop

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    Zero989, Jan 5, 2010
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  34. Mandrake

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    Any pics of this thing with the lid shut?
     
    Mandrake, Jan 5, 2010
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  35. Lanaya

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    thats exactly what I wanna see atm.
     
    Lanaya, Jan 5, 2010
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  36. kurtcocaine

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    kurtcocaine, Jan 5, 2010
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  37. iwantanewlaptop

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  38. kurtcocaine

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    giving error page not found, but if its the Aspire 8940g you're talking about, its probably 3Dmark06 score,not Vantage and its a combined score
     
    kurtcocaine, Jan 5, 2010
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  39. Quadzilla

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    That was the 06 score ...
     
    Quadzilla, Jan 5, 2010
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  40. Quadzilla

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    Thats just the bezel cut to the shape of the chassis, the drive is straight into the machine...
     
    Quadzilla, Jan 5, 2010
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  41. iwantanewlaptop

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    iwantanewlaptop, Jan 5, 2010
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  42. Lanaya

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    Its not a vantage score at all, it is a 3DMark06 score as has already been stated twice.
     
    Lanaya, Jan 5, 2010
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    I wonder what the 3DMark06 score is for this laptop =x
     
    Hydeo, Jan 5, 2010
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  44. kurtcocaine

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    and its a combined GPU/CPU 3DMark06 score
     
    kurtcocaine, Jan 5, 2010
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    I second that.. do u guys think it'll be similar to 280M GTX or higher than 280M GTX?
     
    euisungkim, Jan 5, 2010
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  46. Lanaya

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    I do too...am hoping for 14.5k stock. I think that might be a bit too hopeful tho :\
     
    Lanaya, Jan 5, 2010
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  47. Zero989

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    i checked vantage scores for the 3870x2 and the 5870 mobility might be 3-15% faster
     
    Zero989, Jan 5, 2010
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  48. iwantanewlaptop

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    Do we know anything about the relationship between
    a) combined GPU/CPU 3DMark06 score, and
    b) combined GPU/CPU Vantage score?

    I assume they are correlated?
     
    iwantanewlaptop, Jan 5, 2010
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  49. Zero989

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    vantage is strictly DX10

    3dmark 06 is DX9

    vantage with nvidia gpus also makes use of physx which produces inflated scores by around 30% or something
     
    Zero989, Jan 5, 2010
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  50. dondadah88

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    throw up numbers and was it overclocked or stocked. if stock 3870x2 then :(
     
    dondadah88, Jan 5, 2010
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