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    ASUS G73JH-A1 with ATi Mobility Radeon HD 5870 1GB GDDR5

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by iaTa, Dec 31, 2009.

  1. mackloon

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    Standard benchmarking resolution is 1280 x 1024 for a total of 1310720 pixels. 1366 x 768 amounts to 1049088 pixels.

    This means that the score is inflated compared to the standard benchmarking score.

    No more 14.7k stock? ;)
     
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    This is what my M15x scores with Physx turned off and the GPU OC'd using 1280x1024 resolution:

    [​IMG]
     
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    no more 14.7k stock??

    hah!

    no more preorder!

    lol jk

    but seriously.. ..

    this is basically a 4890 mobility to me :rolleyes:
     
  6. gselsidi

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    omgsh omgshhhhhh i saw 2 fans in the picture!!!! and im assuming seperate heatsinks i so hope thats true lol hopefully we can see gateway temps of 79C on load lol
     
  7. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Its hilarious they used 1366 as the resolution to run when the 1920x1080 panel can run 1280x1024 lol...
     
  8. Narthecium

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    So is this card not as good as everyone has been thinking it is then?
     
  9. Lanaya

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    Also a note, Joker's i7 820xm hit 12,000 CPU score whereas the 720 in the pic hit 8600 or so..
     
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    If the benchmark is accurate I'd say hell no.
     
  11. Narthecium

    Narthecium Notebook Evangelist

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    Man that's a shame but I suppose that would sorta explain the low(ish) price huh?
     
  12. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    no its not, but its better then a 280. So i am happy
     
  13. Narthecium

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    Fair enough :)
     
  14. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Well it was all speculation up to this point but yeah based on that score its nothing to get terribly excited about... We will have to wait and see though as time progresses if anything else comes out showing us more about the card IE 256bit or 128bit etc... If i were guessing based on that score its 128 though ..
     
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    I'm betting on 1 of 2 things (or both in the worst case):

    1. Cut down 128 bit bus
    2. Reduced clocks

    Guess I'll grab the refreshed M17x as soon as it's released whenever that may be.
     
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    joker, was your score also on 1366x768?
    if so, it isnt that bad, your Gpu score was 5669 and this card scoring 8640 in Gpu

    Edit: sorry just saw your post again, you mentioned it was 1280x1024
     
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    Nope 1280x1024 but my GPU was oc'd to 636/1590/1000. The 5870 is nice, just not as nice as we all hoped (e.g. 260M SLI performance).
     
  18. Lanaya

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    it scores 8640 in CPU...and his run was at 1280x1024
     
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    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    no that was the CPU score the GPU score could not be released since its still under NDA

    highest i got on my 260 was 6300 on the GPU :) FYI ;)
     
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    So umm.. assuming that score is accurate, would a Sager with a GTX280M be better than this lappy? The 17.3" NP8760?
     
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    Which drivers? I'm running 195.62 so they tend to score less than 186.81.
     
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    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    Dox 182.xx

    My core was 720 linked with the shader and the mem @ 1100
     
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    1.03v? Or did you get a golden sample?
     
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    Stock on the M17x V. I cooled it heavily ;)
     
  25. kurtcocaine

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    oh sorry, i thought that was the Gpu score..
    Wel i'm still happy, it beats everything else for the same price..i just hope it's out by feb and not Q2 as the wired article stated
    and yes, the m17x refresh will be pretty awesome, but just like the current m17x, wayyy out of most peoples budget(well out of mine for sure)
     
  26. dondadah88

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    i just looked at the scores and that is low. i'm thinking that asus is use 8.12 again. lol but really. i think we should just wait for real numbers. that score is way to horible to try and think why it is so bad and the res makes it even worse.
     
  27. Cheeseman

    Cheeseman Eats alot of Cheese

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    It looks to be better than a GTX 280M, but I'd wait until it's in people’s hands for some proper benchmarks and detail specifications. Plus ASUS has a history of being sneaky by downclocking the GPU to meet their already warm chassis or for all we know this could be another GPU with GDDR5 while having a 128-bit memory bus.
     
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    Gah... I was so excited now I dont know what to think! lol And with a possible Q2 release, eep. Just hope they release full details soon. Sadly, I need a laptop in the next month-month and a half. I will be keeping a close eye on it for the next couple weeks!
     
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    i'm still getting rid of my 280m gtx sli for this unit....
     
  30. Lanaya

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    The 5870 is ~25% faster than a stock GTX260m. I just did a run of vantage at 1366x768 and got a GPU score of 5000. the FPS average in both of the GPU tests was also 15FPS, whereas the FPS average in both of the GPU tests for the 5870 were 20~FPS
     
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    [​IMG]

    *30% Faster than GTX260m*

    So it's properly a little bit better than GTX280m lol oh well
    Here is hoping Nvidia Next Cards will outperform Ati
     
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    its not 15fps in 5870, its 20 and 20.38 as far as i can make out
     
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    oops I meant to say 20 not 15 for the 5870, editing now loll
     
  34. mackloon

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    That's good to know... Hopefully we get full detail on the card and the laptop in the next few days.
     
  35. Lanaya

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    Personally I'm sold on the laptop regardless of its boost because:

    1. the 5870 is better than what I have now (GTX260m)

    2. BIGGER, I love bigger laptops, and this one is huge =D

    3. I LOVE the aesthetics of this beast. IMO, better than any AW on the market atm. Suits my style perfectly.
     
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    The laptop price for what it offers is still very impressive though and there is no card that is faster than the 5870 atm, it's no brainier for people who is searching for a gaming laptop.

    However upgrading from GTX260m/GTX280m is questionable.
     
  37. Lanaya

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    how is a 25-30% upgrade from a 260m questionable? lol especially if you're one of the ones without i7
     
  38. evensen007

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    I hope you're not seriously waiting for Nvidia to put out something that will beat this card in 2010. Fermi has already been announced as delayed, so the best you can expect is a bunch of rebranded garbage for the rest of this year.

    http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1567017/nvidia-fermi-gpu-cut

    They can't get the heat under control (big surprise) which is why you are SOL if you are waiting on Nvidia mobile this year. Also, a 30% improvement over the 260m gets a "lol" out of you? My guess is that once we get our hands on it, overclock the gpu and the cpu (which is what I believe is probably bottle-necking this score) it will be way more than 30% better than a 280m. "Lol".
     
  39. HSN21

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    To me personally the lose of Physx and Nvidia Drivers Support is not worth 25% Faster GPU i won't pay 1600$ for a 25% Upgrade.

    I was hoping for something that is 50% Faster than the GTX260m which use the same old architecture of g80....

    Atm i will wait for the news about Nvidia Next GTX360m/GTX380m before i decide on my new laptop.
     
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    You're crazy. Why downgrade?
     
  41. NBRUser0159099

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    wow...

    at 2pm, i checked this thread (i was bookmarked on like pg. 19 btw) and it had 55 pgs...

    it's now 12am EST, and it's at 80..dam this thread is hot...

    way tl;dr lol, guess every1 is excited!

    EDIT: OMFG just saw pics...def. pooped mah pants :(
     
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    joker run your unit at the same settings...
     
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    Nobody is expecting mobile fermi but if this truly is the best Ati could muster with the 5870 then the 380m gtx should have no trouble matching it.
     
  44. Lanaya

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    you can't run a game with physx at playable framerates on a 260m anyways without turning the settings way down...
     
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    Well, isn't the Mobility HD5870 an 800sp, 256bit 1GB GDDR5 unit?

    That means it should, at the best case scenario, be around an HD4870 stock desktop part? Considering that I doubt clocks are as high as desktop counterparts... It should just be like a mobility HD4850 with GDDR5.

    Well, basically it is just barely better than the GTX280M.
     
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    yep. might run cooler though

    HDMI->720P HDTV
     
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    380m GTX, really? AKA 280m GTX? Nvidia has already shown their re-branding hand with the upcoming "360m gtx" which is actually a slower part than the 260m gtx.

    My guess is that Ati is playing it's cards close, because it knows Nvidia is stuck in the mud right now. The bottom line is that the Mobile 5870 is the fastest single card solution right now, and probably will be for the better part of the year.
     
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    according to wikipedia

    [​IMG]
     
  49. HSN21

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    Nobody cares about the rebrands, we are waiting for fermi which is according to Nvidia will be huge upgrade just like the G8 series

    So once Fermi is out that will be rebranded for the next 2-3 years just like G80
     
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    Right. My point is, why "keep waiting" for the next best thing. There are 1000's of links on google showing that Fermi has been massively delayed, which means the mobile part is in even more trouble. If you ware waiting on mobile Fermi, you will be waiting a very long time. For people looking to upgrade from now - next 6 months, this is and will be the best single solution in town.
     
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