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    ASUS G73JH-A1 with ATi Mobility Radeon HD 5870 1GB GDDR5

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by iaTa, Dec 31, 2009.

  1. Zero989

    Zero989 Notebook Virtuoso

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    haha, im so close to doing it

    for shipping to canada after taxes on paypal its around 1730 (93 canadian cents to US dollar) which is around $200 cheaper than gentech.

    i really wish ati would just release the benchmarks since they obviously have a working driver and chip. I'm assuming it'll be similar to a GTX 260 216SP which is easily enough for 1080P.

    ughh im not going to be able to sleep tonight :p
     
  2. dtwn

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    Cheaper? Who are you going with?

    Don't forget the import taxes as well.

    You have plenty of time to think about it. It's not out yet.
     
  3. l3g4cy99

    l3g4cy99 Notebook Evangelist

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    I bet its going to blow the 260 out of the water. Its a brand new chipset with 1GB 256bit GDDR5 I have no doubts that it will smoke it with ease, in my mind anyways
     
  4. iaTa

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    Now available with a downgraded Blu-ray to DVD drive on GenTech also.
     
  5. l3g4cy99

    l3g4cy99 Notebook Evangelist

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    Can Gentech confirm for us they will indeed be offereing DDR3 1333MHz ram over the standard DDR3 1066MHz ram that comes stock
     
  6. Zero989

    Zero989 Notebook Virtuoso

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    I think it's Xotic's shipping price of $37 vs. gentechs $55 and subtracting the blu-ray player from Xotic's configuration.

    Paypal on gentech now comes out to $1,743.58 CAD shipped :D :D :D
     
  7. Cheeseman

    Cheeseman Eats alot of Cheese

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    $1598.08 CAN (Xotic G73JH) x 1.13 (tax) + $39 CAN (shipping) = $1844.83 CAN
     
  8. dtwn

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    Hmm, 1520 shipped for me without Blu-Ray.

    This will require consideration.

    Much consideration, indeed. lol
     
  9. rubiks86

    rubiks86 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Now the anticipation on actually receiving this thing is going to suck :/
     
  10. alitunay

    alitunay Power Seller

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    I just need one bench score for that 5870. I am just curious if it will beat the xfire 3870 or not.
     
  11. Hydeo

    Hydeo Notebook Evangelist

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    Wouldn't there be an import tax?

    Edit: nvm, must be new years, totally forgot about currency conversion.
     
  12. MasterShake89

    MasterShake89 Notebook Evangelist

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    I'll give you good odds it will. I'll bet itll be comparable to say the good 8 series in sli vs the 260/280.

    my gtx 260m easily takes out my roomies xps 1730 which has the dual 8700m's. Dont know If im sounding stupid or if this is a comparable argument.
     
  13. dtwn

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    Pay me $100, and I'll pick it up and you can meet me in Buffalo. :p
     
  14. Zero989

    Zero989 Notebook Virtuoso

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    :confused: the price i get before i click "pay now" on paypal is 17xx. I dont remember paying provincial tax on american items. i only remember paying duty.
     
  15. Hydeo

    Hydeo Notebook Evangelist

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    How much was duty then?
     
  16. dtwn

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    Last I checked, duty can be pretty hefty. Any idea how much 1.7-1.8 duty would be? Something like 300?
     
  17. Zero989

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    $20 for a $200 dance dance revolution dance pad

    i caved and ordered the asus G73jh-a1, we'll see what happens
     
  18. Hydeo

    Hydeo Notebook Evangelist

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    Hmm so how did you arrive at the $1,743.58 CAD shipped?
     
  19. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    It's 1066 DDR3...... 1333 was a typo, which has now been corrected.

    :)
     
  20. Lanaya

    Lanaya Templar Assassin

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    anybody know someone wanting to buy a g51? =P I wanna hurry up and get my pre-order done
     
  21. Zero989

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    paypal automatically converts the $1600 to $17xx and I get to the point where I get to press "Pay Now" which instantly transfers the money.
     
  22. Hydeo

    Hydeo Notebook Evangelist

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    Ah, so I'm assuming that includes the duty fee o_O
     
  23. Zero989

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    duty is actually charged once it gets to ones door

    it can be a nasty surprise :D :eek:

    :( ...
     
  24. dtwn

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    If my math is right, and assuming you live in Ontario, duty will be approximately CAD$305. This includes duty, PST and GST. This is based on your CDN value of 1743.

    I didn't use this calculator, but you can try the one here. As far as I can tell, I got different figures for both.

    I got my figures off Ebay's page on shipping to Canada. http://pages.ebay.ca/help/sellerguide/shipping/importing.html
     
  25. NBRUser0159099

    NBRUser0159099 Notebook Deity

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    btw, the design is BET is gonna be like the G72...not the G70/G71.

    look at the specs...the dimensions/weight are the same for G73 and G72

    G72/G73
    16"x11.6"x1.8" (W x D x H)
    8.5lbs with 8-cell battery



    G71
    Dimensions (mm) W x H x D 43.3 x 31.4 x 4.9 cm (W x D x H)
    4.79 kg, (with 8 cell battery)
    Conversion
    17.05" W x 12.36" H x 1.93" D
    10.56lb w/ 8-cell battery


    and the fact that gentech/xoticpc is more reliable than that foreign website...i doubt the G73 would look like the original G70 :eek:
     
  26. Zero989

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    i doubt ill be charged duty on this laptop, maybe/definitely taxes
     
  27. SoundOf1HandClapping

    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    If a G5x comes out with comparable specs (i.e. the G51 had two RAM slots, the G72 had three, and so on), I'll be all over it.

    That is one sexy machine, I must admit. The 5870 is going to wipe the floor with the jokes nVidia is coming out with.
     
  28. Rahul

    Rahul Notebook Prophet

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    Will Asus refresh the W90 with HD5870X2? :D
     
  29. jnyvio

    jnyvio Notebook Evangelist

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    As of right now 8GB of 1066 Ram is the only choice.
     
  30. dtwn

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    Why is that? I have seen users here get charged duty previously.
     
  31. Abula

    Abula Puro Chapin

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    I still see 8gb, but yea 1066
     
  32. jnyvio

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    Getting ready to pull the trigger..

    So who to purchase this from? xotic pc or gentech? I think xotic pc offers 100% refund with no restocking fees as long as everthing is returned in mint condition. I did not see this with gentech, but i think gentech was free return shipping? So which is the better reseller? If i purchase one of these from the above suppliers with no additional pixel warranty or coverage checked off, will having one dead or lit pixel upon arrival be covered for an exchange or return?
     
  33. sama98b

    sama98b Notebook Evangelist

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    Buying pc without seeing even tests/photos from it or seeing/feeling it in person .. lol .. gl on it and that with untested new gpu .. :p
     
  34. Lanaya

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    Gentech is in my opinion the better reseller. Very transparent, very helpful here on the forums. Check this thread for an example: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=403860

    went out of his way to help us test a product not even sold by gentech to see if it supports quadcore CPUs. Gentech has the best customer service I've found in any online retailer, and they will be getting all of my business, and that of my close friends =]
     
  35. Lanaya

    Lanaya Templar Assassin

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    Your trolling is not appreciated here, maybe you'd have more fun on the sesame street forums where the other kids hang out.
     
  36. sama98b

    sama98b Notebook Evangelist

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    Nop I just hate ati, ati sold to amd, and sold to global foundry .. and they sponsor terrorists ;)
    But just hate it because too many ati cards went smoking on me b4 going fully with nvidia.
     
  37. iaTa

    iaTa Do Not Feed

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    Oh my word.

    And by the way you've never purchased a laptop without personally feeling it?

    Yeah, right.
     
  38. dtwn

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    To be fair, he has a valid point.

    It is an entirely new GPU, with no performance information publicly available thus far. It is fairly safe to assume it should outperform the 4870s/GTX 280M, but that's about as far as it goes.

    As for the build, seeing/feeling it in person is less important, but reviews would certainly be useful.

    He could have put it better, but he does have a valid point. No offense to Striker and other early adopters, but as I mentioned in the w90vp thread, I don't mind waiting to see how things turn out.

    Nonetheless, I do think the G73jh promises to be an excellent deal, but like others in the thread, I would prefer a stripped down version, i.e. 4 GB RAM/ no Blu-Ray. Don't see a point in paying for something I won't use(Blu-ray)/need(>4GB RAM). It is of course possible to purchase a replacement optical drive and replace the Blu-Ray drive or sell off the RAM.

    And, thank you for confessing to be a troll.
     
  39. Lanaya

    Lanaya Templar Assassin

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    um dtwn- both resellers offer exchange of the blu-ray drive for DVD drive at a cost of 80$ less =P And I bet if you talk to Gentech they'd let you drop 4GB of that ram for a dip in price too. and no, he doesn't really have a point. if there were no early adopters like us, there would be no future for the system..zomg its new nobody touch it til we've seen benches...oh...everyone is too afraid to put up the $ so they can test it? riiight...
     
  40. sama98b

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    Went to canadacumputers and looked on to my g51j opened inspected and that after readin a ton of reviews :)
    Same with my lg r700, and asus a2k b4 that, and with my msi wind too.

    Was just a warning to ppl not to jump in to buying way too fast.
    If ppl call me troll can act as a troll as you see from my prev post ^^

    Resellers might be good but they made big mistakes even in their listing b4 too.
    Screenshoot and ask them to ship it with 8Gb ddr3 1333 ^^ they would lose 600$ right there.
    Even they have no clue yet what they sell.

    Will check on the topic when there will be facts.
     
  41. Lanaya

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    how is that 600$? get a calculator out bro. its got 4x2gb sticks. thats 200$ max.
     
  42. jnyvio

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    Just the opposite here... I use to love nvidia.. My first notebook had a nvidia Geforce 440-Go.. The video card died after one year. My second notebook had a nvidia 8600 GT and that nvidia video card also died after one year! I have to say that the nvidia driver support through laptop2govideo is awsome. I have never updated an ATI driver or know of any good resources for modded drivers. So this will all be new to me.

    I'm thinking of ordering now because i'm not sure if the price will go up.. The only strange thing about the G73 is that the manufacturer (Asus) doesn't even have it up on there website? Amazon does not even have it! Could the G73 be limited? The G72GX-A1 is showing up for pre-order everywhere.
     
  43. Lanaya

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    Asus is renowned for their slowness at updating that site with product info, but they are very good about getting their drivers and whatnot up to snuff before release.
     
  44. dtwn

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    Yea, I know about the Blu-Ray downgrade. And I wondered the same about the RAM.

    Actually he still does. He is less than excited about the performance of a card that no one has any information about and does not wish to assume the risk of testing it. There are those who are fine with the risk, and those who are not. That is simply it. Those who are willing to accept the risk and glory, possibly dubious. of being the early adopters choose to do so. Why begrudge others their choices? Does that mean that those who are unwilling to assume the risk somehow less than those who are? Hardly. You're willing to make physical modifications to your system, should that imply that everyone else should? Not particularly, why should they?

    That's why companies send out review machines or production samples. ;) Don't be fervent about it. It's fine that you want to be an early adopter, but there's no reason to expect everyone else to.
     
  45. iaTa

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    All you need is Mobility Modder ;)

    Even easier than replacing infs!
     
  46. Lanaya

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    I'm not begrudging him- he's coming in here and talking down to us for it and he has no right to. Its simple for him to just not post, and by posting he made it an attack on us for our decision, and I won't stand for that.
     
  47. dtwn

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    Fair enough.

    1) He still has a valid point. The card is untested.

    2) He could have put it better and less troll-like. In case you're wondering, I already reported the troll post earlier.

    3) If you want to be an early adopter, I applaud you for it, but it's not everyone. Moreover, no need to drag others who choose not to be early adopters into the issue. I'm referencing this quote.

     
  48. iaTa

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    That's true it does say 4 x 2GB on both XOTIC and GenTech but I've just noticed the spec sheet on XOTIC contradicts those details:

    Aren't Core i7 on-board memory controllers designed for three channel, not four?
     
  49. tallan

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    We've been down this road before, led by the same Pied Piper:

    MAN did I want an ASUS W90Vt when they first came out...

    Two months later MAN was I happy I waited and passed on it!

    Some lemmings never learn.

    Now I need to go collect mushrooms or whatever it is "trolls" do...
     
  50. dtwn

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    lol.

    To be fair, not everyone who waited for results said this bit. ;)

    But yea, that's what troll-like behavior would be.
     
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