ASUS G73JH-A1 with ATi Mobility Radeon HD 5870 1GB GDDR5

which are both more than a stock GTX280m/260m

 

Good finds, thanks!

But we shall see how true they actual are, these marketing graphs tend to be skewed

 

Stock GTX 280m is 60.8 Gb/s, but that goes up considerably when overclocked, stock is only 950 MHz

 

lol ati
they starting the benchmark at the freaking 80% XD

 

Tend to be? Those graphs look exponential. The 25% alone looks more like 100%

As far as the machine is concerned. It's a sweet one.

 

yea, so memory bandwidth will really be down to whoever can get a higher memory OC. but alot of people were worried about the 128bit bus crippling it to below 280m/260m speeds and thats not the case.

 

Started shopping for a new laptop (work/play) stumbled onto the G73 and put in a pre-order. Been following the drama ever since. Better than the novelas my wife watches! Great info here.

 

at the same clocks the 5870m will have lower bandwidth than the GTX 280m....maybe the same

 

glad to be of some entertainment

 

it'll have the same bandwidth. I already proved this with my 260m @ 1000mhz getting the same bandwidth as the 5870m. the GDDR3 and bus width of the 280m being the same:

 

and? we know what it is already don, that was stated on the previous page. what I'm trying to get across, is that clock for clock the memory speeds will be the deciding factor in the bandwidth at this point, and not bus width.

 

5870 IS 20% FASTER than 4870 confirmed by ATI them self.

 

no i'm showing the bandwidth at different clocks. that's all not the bit or anything. i'm trying to look for a pic of 1080 on the memory.

and i'm trying to compare it to the 5870's gpu-z even though it isn't fulled out all the way.

 

its their new GPU, of course they'll say its xx% faster. they want you to buy it lol.

 

Still not impressive i was hoping for something like 50-60% since these suppose to be the next gen cards or something sick of rebrands

 

it is a fixed function of technology (GDDR3 or 5) bandwidth (bits) and frequency Don, it is easy enough to figure out the correlation (not sure of the exact equation) but I know that we have already established the relationship between everything

here is the equation:
Frequency (in Hz) x bus width (bits) x technology multiplier (2 for GDDR3 4 for GDDR5) / 8 (8 bits per byte)

 

mmm i see....

 

exactly, so clock for clock the memory will be exactly the same, the architecture and other differences are what will give the speed improvement (and neither should choke at high resolutions)

 

lol.
again, you are expecting wayyyy too much.
you said you're expecting nVidia nxt gen to be the "savior" this time right?
We'll see if that happens.

 

Its clear that they can fit 5870 in a 15.6 laptop easily since it's 40nm 50Watt versus GTX260m 55nm 65Watt SPECIALLY with the new cooling design which keeps everything cool according to Asus

I'll wait for the 15.6 Version with USB3 (USB3 already introduced with HP/ASUS/DELL/etc this year with the 32nm Core i5)

17.3 with huge frame/back is as big as 18.4 laptops so later everyone lol was fun i guess see ya when they release next true 15.6 gaming laptop but for now I'm happy with my G51.

 

Nvidia rebrands can get 20% extra performance sorry but 5870 is a joke for an "upgrade, new users might love it though.
Will wait for fermi which i believe will end up very good, and even if it sucked i'll have Nvidia Superior Drivers for notebooks (Ati doesn't support mobile drivers) with Phsyx/Cuda/3Dsurround/New HD Flash acceleration Standard/etc

From CES they are getting released late Q1 for Desktops so i expect mobile versions to be out before june. no Nvidia is not stupid to give ati more than a free year in the mobile market.

 

yea what ive noticed is their 2 year old rebranded chips always beat ati's new chips anyway lol.

Idk though if ati is really better at aa i would get an ati, but i read that their AA is lower quality.

 

At 1080p, even if the 5870 is say 15-20% faster than 280M in the newest games, AA may not even be a feasible option. L4D 1/2 my 260M plows through at max settings and AA so that's largely irrelevant as is MW2. But then take games like Crysis Warhead or GTA4 and that 20% won't be nearly enough to turn on AA. The point is, in older games or less demanding ones, you can already run AA in generous quantities with super sampling and not take much of a hit. There needs to be a substantial boost to single GPU performance at 1080p to consider AA a factor in newer more demanding games.

 

HSN21- good for you, you have your opinion, you've stated it enough times already on this page alone. you can go ahead and leave the thread now, you're negativity is not needed here.

 

yea everyone keep your panties on, the laptop isnt even out yet.
But not to troll or anything, but NVIDIA most likely will have something that would beat ati's card at that time.

Im not saying its def. but they always seem to perform better,

on a side note, im thinking of getting a super cheap laptop, since all i do is trade forex, i havent played games in a bit. i dont know if i want to spend $1500 on a laptop lol. At least for now, going to wait until ati releases another high end dx11 card, by then they should have made it better

 

Agreed to an extent, but I must add, by not taking note, and not getting with moderators, things can get WAY out of hand, believe me.

Sorry.... I lost control.....

 

even when nVidia does come out with a card to beat this one, its never gonna fit in $1600 with the same specs, so its just not an option for people like me

did iaTa say when he would be going back and run 3dMarok06 and did he manage to get any pics of the bottom?
he said in a post he'd upload pics later, but i didnt spot em..

 

He said he was gonna go back tonight or tomorrow. They were starting to think he was gonna rob the joint or something. hah

 

I had to delete a couple of posts
Please try to stay on topic


Alex

 

lol i would, cant wait to get my hands on this baby! (in a completely non-pedophile way)

 

yea thats what sucks about nvidia high priced, but i think ati might have finally beat them. If it keeps up at this rate, because when nvidia finally releases their lord of the rings whatever bull ferni its called lol.

Ati will have released something 20% better, i really hope thats the case because im tired of nvidias gpu costing double.

 

I was riding the nvidia train from the 8800GTX desktop card for almost 2 years! They had Ati against the ropes. Ati has really turned the game around on them. I can't understand how Nvidia lost the plot so quickly, but when Ati launched the 4870 desktop card early last year, it really knocked Nvidia out hard. They have been playing catch up ever since and have had some bad problems with bad chip batches and slower cards. I really hope they catch back up, because it makes it better for us in the end with better competition.

 

not really because nvidia will still charge ridiculous prices, at least when ati is ahead we can get the best for half the price lol.

 

Thanks Tomcat57..... sorry, I'll try to be good.

 

Does anyone know where I can get evidence that the G73 has hardware RAID 0? (not trying to start the RAID vs SSD fire again, just want to know)

 

it states right there raid1/raid0 support

 

Its called Fermi not ferni XD and its already out finally after being delayed for ages, Q1 Desktops Q2 Mobile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkI-ThRTrPY

If you are sick of rebrands or 10-20% performance boost only each year Fermi suppose to be the new G8 Series with huge jump, when that happens Ati can basically release the 5870 again but with 256bit instead of 128bit to compete.

 

Thanks EIement

Boy this laptop has everything

 

Well Clevo has updated their machines with 285m, bit same config will be costing ATLEAST $500 more i think
http://www.clevo.com.tw/en/products/prodinfo_2.asp?productid=177

 

Any idea what's the performance different between GTX280 and GTX285?

 

the GTX285 is a cherry picked GTX280 with higher clocks and different board configuration iirc.

 

Look here
I am sure if we read over posts in this thread you will see comparisons already posted

http://forum.notebookreview.com/forumdisplay.php?f=26


Alex

 

Well even it was equal to 5870 ATI still got directx11 and 50watt versus GTX285m 75Watt so epic fail Nvidia lol.

 

don't think this has been posted before, official ASUS CES news release

http://www.asus.com/News.aspx?N_ID=ZKwRY8Vdou3yhQuG

ASUS ROG G73Jh: The Gamer's Notebook
Developed in response to gamers' demand for a technically-advanced mobile gaming machine, the ROG G73Jh looks as good on the desktop as it does on the go. At its heart lies the latest Intel® Core™ i7 processor, DirectX 11 capable ATI Radeon™ HD5870 graphics, up to 8GB of DDR3 system memory, 8-channel HD audio with EAX 4.0 compatibility, on-the-fly overclocking, ambient lighting, and 1TB of storage space for incredible gaming and multitasking performance.

on-the-fly overclocking they mean the power4gear utility right?

 

yes you are right.

 

probably just means intel turbo boost stuff....

 

Just a note - if moderators have to visit this thread again it may be closed and people will receive infractions. Have a constructive, sensible discussion, it is not difficult. If you don't have anything helpful to add, then don't.

 

im noticing when people post their pre-order configs, not many are taking the dead pixel warranty ...

is this a bad investment?