ASUS G73JH-A1 with ATi Mobility Radeon HD 5870 1GB GDDR5

How do I get my hands on one of these in the UK?!?

 

Like OMG, I get it. LOL!

Anyhow, I should clarify.

When playing the advocate who is concerned about ordering for future technology, me saying "5871" didn't only apply to ATI's next card. It didn't even apply strictly to graphics cards. It applied to any number of higher-tech options (and cheaper prices for them) that might be available to the consumer upon final launch of the G73. I've read things like, "ASUS is slow with launching, blah blah, won't be out till late February blah." Just a month ago I was seriously considering a Qosmio X505-Q830... this Asus blows it out of the water, and it's only a couple months of technology/pricing past the Qosmio.

Regardless of whether the release-date soothsayers are in-the-know, the thought of waiting a relatively long amount of time for pre-bought technology to arrive is unsettling. Though I suppose if let's say, it's released in late Feb, it won't be 3-month-old technology - it'll be new, yeah? Just getting a peek into the womb now I guess.

Thanks for the news on post-release stock and price hikes (lack thereof), good to know.

 

Waiting to see what else is available is the reason why I didn't pre-order anything. Plus ordering it without a EDD is kind of tough.

 

Same way we do here in the States. Get a job, earn some money, and then transfer said money to a reseller (which has been listed about 200 times in this thread).

 

Striker, is it time for another Valium?

 

With most resellers you don't need the money up front. Most wait to process any payment on Pre Orders until the item is actually in stock.

 

Well, yes of course. I was being facetious because that has been answered more times than I care to count!

 

Unless it's a cash payment, according to JustinW.

 

This thread is out of control. I estimate it could be trimmed down to five pages and not loose a single valuable piece of information. Every time I come on here, to find out if any more details have been released, I have to trawl though ten pages of useless, repeated or useless and repeated junk. Yes, this laptop is awesome. Do we need every single person who reads the thread to say so? No! Endless speculation about memory bandwidth, 3d mark scores, where the fan intakes are! I know everyone is very excited about this laptop, but please, before you hit the 'post' button, consider whether what you've written adds anything to the previous two thousand two hundred and seven posts.

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I think the majority of people in this thread will stare back at YOU for this statement...

 

Dont you know? Makind ridicules about anything we want is a functionality that was introduced by Web 2.0 .

 

Hey just curious as to if anyone knows when this is coming out, what the benchmarks are or if you can upgrade the GPU when the 6875 comes out in 2 years?! lul...jk.

Look, people here are excited for the product. This is the internet after all and this is a somewhat luxury purchase for some people. People that worry if you will be charged now or later probably shouldn't be buying the laptop but that is not my value judgement to impose on someone else. Excitement for the laptop, concerns, curiousty is all doing one thing....creating hype and drawing attention to ASUS....I don't think the people at ASUS mind. Maybe just agree to disagree and try to be respectful to the other posters should be the mantra. Peace.

 

I just looked at HP's website and they now have the 5830 listed as an option for the Envy series. If you select that GPU, it changes the build date to January 19th. That may give us a hint at the availability of the new Ati cards going in out G73's. Hopefully we will hear something this month!

 

Subscribing

 

nice!
I really hope we hear something this month.

 

Ok, I pre-ordered this thing. Now to find out if I need it...

 

Insight UK have an Acer 8942G with a 4850 on pre-order for a customer. It's showing as 'expected on 08/02/10'. Just a couple of days ago it was 'expected on 15/02/10' So they may be getting updates from Acer.

 

From the look of things, it seems to be a quality upgrade from the rig you have if you are into gaming.

 

Does this have Dual graphic cards
or is theer another with Dual cards by Asus ?

 

G73JH info here!

 

There's no doubt. I used to have a Gateway P6831 that worked great for me and sold it to pay for my UL30VT. I thought I needed a lightweight gaming machine. But it turns out I don't game heavily on the road and if I do, they are really simple. So, it's back to a desktop replacement style notebook and I'll just get a netbook or something.

 

wat was the 3dmark06 score?

I still think laptop gpu is still way behind desktop gpus. Naming the GPU 5870 is just misleading when in actual fact its closer to a desktop 4670.

Just like the nvidia 360m. Its less powerful than the 260m which is worse than a desktop 9600 GT. Wats up with all these marketing hype.

 

Yet the feature set of the new mGPU is of the 5000 series. So realistically they cannot call it a 4870m yet maybe they should have called it a 5750. But honestly what does it matter what they called it? It is faster then the last generation of mobile GPU's from ATI and faster then the other 5000 series mobile chips. So 5870 works as well as any other number. People should stop comparing desktop GPU's to the mobile equivalents. A 260m is not as fast as a desktop gtx260 either.

 

Uggh.......

 

Yep, here we go again, LOL!

Hmmmm, mods must have been here...... the post count changed..... ???

 

We should just lock this useless thread or something >_>

 

I like this thread, it's just that some people don't bother to search or anything.

 

NO, NO! Keep this one, as not to pollute the Owner's thread for now..... these rants will continue, so better here, than there.

LOL!

 

Its the most popular thread right now
The few posts I delete are not even noticable


Alex

 

LOL! I noticed!

 

It matters alot wat they call it. Take a look at nvidia's naming system. Eventhough its faster than last generation mobile gpu, its still alot slower than mid range desktop gpus but to make it worse they name it after 5870 when its not even close. If they dont want us to compare to their desktop equivalents, stop naming it after their desktop equivalents!!

 

Thank you for taking your time to clean out the junk in here..even more recent posts are full of facepalms

 

Sigh. Lets not talk about nvidia's GPU naming. As for ATI it is their flagship mobile product right now, so why not name it after the flagship destop card? Sure it is not the same GPU but they are not naming them for enthusiasts, they are naming them for the average consumer. eg " Hey my buddy has one of those 5870's in his desktop and it is awesome, i should get this laptop that has one of them" Will they really know the difference? Probably not. Its all about perception.

 

Which in any other product industry its illegal coz they are misleading the consumer. But since naming gpus is not regulated, its ok.

Look im trying to be reasonable here. Its a good laptop nonetheless but you dont see this marketing in any part of the laptop other than the gpu. You have cpu intel i7 that performs like the desktop i7, you have the ram, the harddisk, the blu-ray drive, usb, all perform similar as their desktop equivalent. But the gpu is not even close to call itself wat it suppose to be. Its like calling a SSD harddisk on a desktop and SSD-m on a laptop when its just a normal sata harddisk.

 

Thats why its a mobility 5870 or a 260 m to differentiate from desktop parts

 

People that don't read and research are the ones that get mislead. Complaining that companies name their products similarly won't change the fact that the real reason why the majority of people that buy, for example, a GTX 280M and expect the power of a GTX 280 is because they don't read. It's as simple as that. Producers have been taking advantage of consumer stupidity since the stone age. This is nothing new or surprising. It's just well played marketing.

 

We as a society have a frequent tendency to short hand the names of products. Using the example you gave, that is how almost every average tech enthusiast talks and types. Every thread in every tech forum on the internet has users that use some short handed or abbreviated form for a product name. But know that addressing products like the GTX 280M saying that it's a 280 or a MR 5870 saying it's a 5870 will bring confusion and misconceptions due to lack of context, which leads to people getting pissed off at companies when they really shouldn't be. It hurts to be spoon fed the truth, (pun on spoony).

 

This. Anyone that plans on spending this much on a laptop should do a bit of research anyways. You researched and found out that the mobile 5870 is pretty much a 5770. Now I understand that you dont like the way they named it but there isnt much that can be done about it. It's not like it is going to make them change things. At least it is not as misleading as the gts360m being worse then the 260m

 

I do like the way it's named. I wish ATi and Nvidia keep this going. The clever naming scheme allows me to see who's stupid and who's not, basically wading out the herd. For those that did the former, it serves as a lesson to research before they buy. It's the hard way, but atleast they, hopefully, learn from it.

I can say the same about the mobile i7's. The 920 and the 920XM both have strikingly similar names, but they aren't the same product. They are vastly different in performance alone. The desktop 920 beats the mobile 920XM by a long shot. Do people complain about it? Yes, though it's not as prevalent on NBR, but on other forums it is.

 

The 5870m underperforms a desktop 4770 or 4850. Guess how many people know that without benchmarking it. As in response to warding out the herd, i guess which herd that is.

The amount of research required to determine the performance of mobile gpus is painful these days due to the misleading naming convention of nvidia and now ati. There wouldn't be so much discussion on them if it was just plain simple.

 

Nobody said research was easy. It's more painful to not research and blindly buy a product than to spend the time and effort to dig into something you're spending your hard earned money on. But in this case, Googling the technical specs of desktop cards and notebook cards as well as their performance benchmarks isn't painful. I just searched all itterations of the desktop G92 and the mobile G92 in less than five minutes. The number of average users will always outnumber the knowledgeable and self-reliant ones, so don't be surprised that people are complaining about getting jipped.

 

I doubt the mainstream sheep even know what these numbers mean, let alone read in depth reviews and benchmarks. We enthusiasts know the difference between a flagship mobile and desktop gpu. Any idiot stupid enough to think you can run games as fast on a high end laptop as you can on a high end desktop simply coz the gpu's have similar names should really just go and buy a MAC... There is no problem with the naming, the 5870 is the flagship ati mobile card, the 280m the flagship nvidia, the 260m 2nd in line etc.... Neways does neone reckon this card will come to the G51?

 

no it won't, it will be on the redesigned G51 IMO*

 

Im thinking about getting the G73.... this means of course selling my W90.

Hard choice to make. I like the looks of the W90 more and for sure it has more gaming/gpu power, but I almost never game anymore so the i7 in the G73 is a good upgrade for me for my video encoding.

 

Anybody an idea about his power abuse? Will it take about 4 hours to charge it fully when in use and will the power supply be even able to pull this beast forth?


Planned to order mine this week; why does waiting takes so long!

 

4 hours to charge fully?? My g51 does it in around an hour and half... Just out of curiousity do most ppl use the g73 size lappy's as a desktop replacement? The g51 is heavy enough lugging it to uni and back, cant imagine the strain from an even larger laptop... or maybe I need to work out.

 

Moo, I would like to know your opinion between this and your old m17x that you had. Seems like you would be best to answer this question once you get the G73 in your hands =)

 

the G73 is only 8.5lbs which is only a pound heavier than the G51, and very light for a 17" gaming system.

 

I have read the entire thread over the last ten days or so as it was being written (enjoyed it by the way!) and I was just wondering if anyone knows about the power brick? I mean how does it compare to an XPS 17 or something around that size (bigger? smaller?)

does anyone know?

I guess i was wondering how heavy it is and what weight it will add to this beast when we lug it around!

 

I have used the google search engine and 'tried' to use the other search engine to find out information on the expresscard slot. Many of the specs indicate there is one. The configuration pages from various companies allow for adding a sound card that is an expresscard. I have studied the pictures and the videos and I still don't see it.

Asside from speculation, is there any confirmation that there is an expresscard slot?