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    ASUS G73JH-A1 with ATi Mobility Radeon HD 5870 1GB GDDR5

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by iaTa, Dec 31, 2009.

  1. dtwn

    dtwn C'thulhu fhtagn

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    Original M15X had issues for a very long time, including terrible build issues. The current M17X has some issues as well.

    Note: I'm not saying AW is bad, but AW has some issues.

    For that matter, so do Clevo/Sager units, they're not perfect either. ;)
     
  2. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    no company is perfect ever ... simple as that get a laptop and shutup IMO :)
     
  3. freedom16

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    Every company has issues it happens this isn't a perfect little world, does this machine have a backlit keyboard? This machine looks really sweet i am going to sell my qosmio x505 and get this so much better!
     
  4. Lanaya

    Lanaya Templar Assassin

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    yes, this has a backlit keyboard.
     
  5. dtwn

    dtwn C'thulhu fhtagn

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    Pretty much. All companies have their issues.
     
  6. BIGX333

    BIGX333 Brazillian Overclocker

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    What really matters is: where is the 120hz version? :D
     
  7. tymonator

    tymonator Notebook Consultant

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    That's correct!
     
  8. iaTa

    iaTa Do Not Feed

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    Ha so true, 1080p too :D
     
  9. Netherwind

    Netherwind Notebook Evangelist

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    Didn't I read the 3d version of the g51 was gonna be 1366x768 or whatever that strange rez is
     
  10. tri0xinn

    tri0xinn Notebook Guru

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    Would this G73JH be faster than my desktop... i7 920 ... 6gb ram.. 1gb 5850 ? or are the laptop Mobile versions of the GPU's and Cpu's a bit slower like they were in the past?
     
  11. dtwn

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    The i7 920qm is outperformed by the i7 920, and the i7 720qm only more so. Projected performance for the 5870 Mobility is supposedly around the 5770.

    Mobile versions of the GPU/CPU are slower and will remain that way for the foreseeable future. The past remains.

    One could argue that miniaturization would ultimately allow manufacturers to put desktop sized components into laptops, but the desktops would still have more space, by virtue of their design and use, thus allowing them larger and more powerful components.
     
  12. Partizan

    Partizan Notebook Deity

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    I don't understand why you want a gaming laptop to be quiet. I rather have a good loud one which won't overheat. Chances are you won't notice any loudnes (hopefully) unless you start gaming and stressing the gpu, and if you play games like cod, I doubt you'll hear the fan louder than the explosions, gun shots, screaming kids, and so on.

    As I said before, if you want something silent, go for a bike (netbook), not a ferrari (asusG/alienware) ^^
     
  13. addled315

    addled315 Notebook Enthusiast

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    hi guys
    new here
    was curious whether this laptop has the new usb 3.0 ports
    i ask this as it came out alongside the n series lappies which sport usb 3.0 ports
    thanks
    adi
     
  14. jellygood

    jellygood Notebook Consultant

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    Unfortunately USB 3.0 is no go for this laptop mate! No express card slot either.
     
  15. HSN21

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    No USB3 however the refresh will properly get USB3 because HP and other Asus laptops are getting USB3 now

    Also if usb3 is a must for you, you can buy a USB3 express card and plug it into this laptop so not a big deal i think
     
  16. HSN21

    HSN21 Notebook Deity

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    :eek: ... :( oh well someone needs to update the OP then it says

    Slots

    * 1 Express Card 34 / 54 Slot
    * 8 in 1 card reader, SD,MMC,MS,MS-Pro,xD,mini SD w/ adapter,MS-Duo,MS-Pro Duo via adapter

    Maybe it does have Express card?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ASUS-G73JH-A1-1...ItemQQimsxZ20100107?IMSfp=TL100107054010r3446

    This guy already selling the laptop and mention Express card under specs.
     
  17. rancid

    rancid Notebook Evangelist

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    Someone confirmed with Asus there is no express slot and taking someone's word on ebay selling a laptop that isn't out yet isn't a good source ;)
     
  18. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    One of the biggest constraints that is also holding back performance in mobile GPU's is power. Unlike desktop GPU's that draw power directly from the PSU, mobile GPU's draw power directly from the motherboard through the PCI-E slot. The motherboard can only supply so much power. If more power was to be given to the card, then both the motherboard and the GPU daughterboard would need more capacitors, inductors, etc, which all take up space. Yes, heat does play a factor too.
     
  19. HSN21

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    I didn't take the word from ebay i told you it's in the first post of this thread under "slots" someone needs to update the op that's
     
  20. hazardic

    hazardic Notebook Consultant

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    lol all previous asus cooling systems were not so good so gpu simply fries. current alienware models are coolest laptops i've ever seen&heard. so i haven't any issues with my current laptop and don't suffer from dpc. for cost 3000+ i've got what i've never got from asus even 1600+ with any better specs or any other manufacturer. i keep my mind about new asus but i'll purshase it only if it have great cooling at least the same as in new m17x laptop or better. otherwise it's a REAL waste of money even if 1600<3000+
    this is so easy to unserstand who use a very built machine but not ununderstandable for any who bought machine under 2000
     
  21. iclicku

    iclicku Notebook Evangelist

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    Let me guess. You're not from around here are you?

    This is a stab in the dark, but I'm guessing you're point is that you're ununderstandable because we want to spend our money on something other than a Dell? Thanks for the warning, I think?
     
  22. Partizan

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    It seems to me that its more cost efficient over a period of lets say 4 years, to buy 2 laptops every 2 years for 1500 instead of buying one laptop for 3000.
    Your 3000dollar/euro laptop will probably be not as good as a 1500euro/dollar laptop after 2 years due to fast changing technologies. And I think that 2 laptops have a bigger chance of lasting longer than 1 laptop ^^
    But your right about the current asus G series, unless they have decent cooling, spending 1500€/dollars on a suicidal machine is indeed a waste of money.
     
  23. 5150Joker

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    Cooling should be okay with the G73. It's the BSOD's or premature failure (ala CES) that you should be concerned about.
     
  24. Partizan

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    Are you talking about the current G73 (heard the gpu still got pretty hot in it) or the new one with alienware/jet vents in the back?
     
  25. Reicheru

    Reicheru Notebook Consultant

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    There is only one G73............... :confused:
     
  26. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Yeah he was thinking of the G72 which are totally different machines..

    As for Cooling,BSOD etc, no one will know that till the time comes... :).
     
  27. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    All part of the fun for us "expereinced" users....

    Side note just tested out of my class
     
  28. DT84

    DT84 Notebook Geek

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    He is talking about the G73 that was at CES, iaTa "killed" it trying to run 3dMark06 on it for the first time.
     
  29. Partizan

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    I confused it with the g72, when I was trying to look for the g73 online it somethimes showed the old g72 design so that didn't make it any easier ^^
     
  30. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    No he is talking about the G72 which has no "Alienware/Jet Vents in back" ..

    The G73 at CES is the one everyone will be getting .. The new design..
     
  31. DT84

    DT84 Notebook Geek

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    That's the part of the post I'm referring to. :/

    I think he's meaning the G73 that "died" at CES.
     
  32. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    This concerns me...

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    versus this on the M17x...

    [​IMG]

    I know the M17x will get hotter because of the dual GPU but you can still feel the heat when you have just one GPU running.
     
  33. Partizan

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    @joker

    That would be the a shame if this g73 would have the same issues as the g51j. I'm unfamiliar with its issues but the threads sure did look bussy :p
    Is the BSOD issue the 'thing' (rofl don't laugh) that causes the blue screen of death?
     
  34. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    That first pic concerns me as well and is totally inadequate without some more air being pulled in from elsewhere... so lets hope there is more to it then just what is shown..
     
  35. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    "thing" or "thingy" are a very complicated technical terms in the biz. ;)
     
  36. Mandrake

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    Like the air pulling through the front like they said? Really need to get someone to test this.
     
  37. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    BSOD is short for Blue Screen Of Death so i cant make heads or tales of your question :)...
     
  38. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Exactly... It has to be coming from somewhere else because there is no way in heck that its all coming from those tiny vents... Or rather i hope its not :)...
     
  39. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    I'm guessing he meant is the heat issue causing the BSODs.
     
  40. evensen007

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    Joker, didn't you know? That was a safety "feature" built into the laptop to prevent benchmarking! hahaha
     
  41. Partizan

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    Oh ok lol that explains...
     
  42. evensen007

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    I am concerned about cooling too after seeing that picture of the bottom. All I can hope for is that Asus R&D did their research and won't release this thing with melting Gpu's.

    Also, concerning the possibility of this thing Blue Screening ALA G51J. HIGHLY unlikely considering the blue screen seems to be tied the the Nvidia Gpu not being implemented properly in Asus' Bios somehow, but who knows.
     
  43. Quadzilla

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    I believe they already said the BSOD was not heat related probably by yanking off the back panel and running it with a cooler... So its a hardware issue/bug..

    Either way though 1 fan cooling an i7 and 260 is not a very good idea :)...

    G73 wont have those issues since there is a fan for each but we need to know where they are getting all the air from because it cant be from those tiny slits on the bottom...
     
  44. Mandrake

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    How about a wind tunnel test for a laptop? lol
     
  45. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Haha well based on your "Outdoor" testing with the M17x i know you would be up to the challenge of a wind tunnel ... And again just make sure you get some darn video for all to enjoy :D....
     
  46. Partizan

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    If the vent opening parts are small enough the pressure could become so high that laptop could actually start moving.

    Anyway back to reality, I fear asus is trying too hard to present us gaming laptops for a low price, and is therefore forced to cut budgets in quality, and adequate cooling research (why don't they just copy alienware's cooling system...).
     
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    :( :eek: but people will laugh at me. :p
     
  48. trentbg

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    Patents...may be :)
     
  49. Mandrake

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    Better yet how about the cooling system of their own W90.
     
  50. evensen007

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    True,

    But if those tiny vents get covered completely while on your lap or whatever, that reliance on pressure could turn the laptop into a pile of junk within 10 minutes into a game. I have hope though that Asus will do the right thing and has thoroughly tested it's new cooling system. Hope to hear more soon! Maybe the great re-sellers on this forum can pry some information out of an Asus rep...
     
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