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    ASUS G73JH-A1 with ATi Mobility Radeon HD 5870 1GB GDDR5

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by iaTa, Dec 31, 2009.

  1. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    The Cooling in the W90 was pretty fantastic overall... The GPUs got a little toasty but they were covered entirely in copper unlike so many machines that have the bare minimum .... CPU cool was beyond amazing...

    Clevo has some of the best i have seen from a design standpoint and when you open up the back it looks like a copper mine inside :)...

    As long as your wearing that big hat of yours yes i know i will be laughing :D....
     
  2. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    ...or a couple minutes into 3DMark06. :eek:
     
  3. wwoods

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    Lets see, arrive in US ASUS Warehouse Feb 23.....out to resellers march1st or so...yup...Q2 like mentioned a few pages back
     
  4. trentbg

    trentbg Notebook Consultant

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    It looks like no one paid attention to the pictures in the Official thread You can clearly see that the intake of the air is from the upper front part of the laptop, so putting it on your lap will not do much harm.
     
  5. Quadzilla

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    Actually everyone did pay attention to that but iaTa was at CES and confirmed there is no vent in the front.... This is why we are all concerned...
     
  6. evensen007

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    Didn't someone confirm (iAta maybe?) that the front vent was actually the sub-woofer?
     
  7. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    lol, are you sure that is not a speaker/sub-woofer grill as stated multiple times. ;)
     
  8. trentbg

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    Well it is ether the sample they have there a bit different or their information is misleading, or could the intake mesh be under the keyboard?
     
  9. evensen007

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    So......? Do you want a pat on the back, buddy? :) How about a "high-five"? :p
     
  10. Quadzilla

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    Id like to hope and think it was a sample which will change.. there are different pics floating around from Asus showing the air being circulated from the bottom and then right back out but there are no vents where they show the air being pulled in from so its still not making a whole lot of sense ATM...
     
  11. evensen007

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    Air intake through the keyboard... That would be brilliant! I wonder why no one has done that yet. I think it would be a pretty un-obstructed path for the air to pass through.
     
  12. Mandrake

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    I would like to see that tested if true. I manage hundreds of systems where air is drawn from the front but it's aided by a 20 ton AC unit. For a notebook we can obviously use notebook coolers but what will push the air through where your hands/wrists are? There is only some much "sucking" of air it can do.
     
  13. evensen007

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    A very complex "compression" type of air duct would be able to channel air through the keyboard. I am no engineer, but I think it could be done with the proper minds involved.
     
  14. Soviet Sunrise

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    The newer Macbooks have something similar to that, but look how "cool" they are.
     
  15. trentbg

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    I agree, it can be done, I believe that it will be efficient. The previous generation (like the one I owe) G50VT also did not have a large intake mesh directly under the fan and it was taking the air in from multiple places on the bottom of the laptop, and it was still doing a decent job.
     
  16. evensen007

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    I take it not very cool at all? :p
     
  17. v_c

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4YggnorH6Y

    From 2:35 onwards he picks up the laptop. There looks like a sizeable intake vent on the underside towards the front, offset to left hand side. It fits in with the diagram suggesting air pulled in from the front, so I assume thats what it is.
     
  18. trentbg

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    They are not that hot that you might think, after all the full aluminum body helps a lot for heat spreading.
     
  19. Dave4994

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    I believe that's the subwoofer.
     
  20. Mandrake

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    The NBR person on site (iaTa) said there were no vents in the front that he could see.
     
  21. hazardic

    hazardic Notebook Consultant

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    here is the video of the bottom where we can see two small intakes on left and rigt sides
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    and here http://www.flickr.com/photos/asusuk/4248897803/in/photostream/ there is a hi-res 6070 x 3930 pic where we can take a closer look to front panel with
     
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  22. Mandrake

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    Are they so small they are not visible? lol
     
  23. v_c

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    Ah yes, so it is, you can see it more clearly in the other video.
     
  24. Dave4994

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    Laptop fan noise is dependent on how well the ventilation is designed and fan choice. Look at the Alienware m15x and m17x. Reviews state that the laptop is near silent during normal use and more than tolerable while gaming. That's what I want. I'm not trying to be unrealistic here. Having a quiet gaming laptop is very possible and it doesn't necessarily entail huge money and time investments in the R&D phase of the machine.

    Also, having a gaming laptop for other uses, such as school work in libraries, the office, and any other quite setting is desirable for the customer and the company ;) .

    Producing a quiet laptop (or a laptop than can be quiet... perhaps through some sort of silent mode) widens the market segment for the laptop. Win for the customer and win for computer company.

    The two things holding me back from getting an Alienware are the aesthetics (alien head on the front) and the horrid stories I hear about Dell's customer service. As a third thing I hope they fixed the problematic touch pad on current units.

    I'm looking forward to the first hands-on reviews of the G73 though :) .
     
  25. Mandrake

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    We have been told this is a speaker....

    [​IMG]

    To be honest even if that was an air intake I wouldn't think that would be sufficient.
     
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    Any news about the screen quality compared to dell? wht can we expect?
     
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    Lol i was just going to say that...

    Even though its clearly marked Subwoofer above that grill if that were there idea of cooling the whole machine it just would not work ...
     
  28. Mandrake

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    So here's hoping it a pre-production model or we're just missing something.
     
  29. evensen007

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    I'm guessing a little of both, and also a little bit of "the cooling system isn't as cool (pun) as we had hoped for".
     
  30. Quadzilla

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    I believe we are missing something myself...
     
  31. Riccardo83

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    any news ???
     
  32. Quadzilla

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    The screen should be the same one they are using in the 1920x1080 G72 and its supposed to be pretty nice .. Good viewing angles etc.. Not the best but very far from the worst....

    Its the same Panel that is being used in the 17.3 inch Clevo from what i was told :)...
     
  33. Riccardo83

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    oh ok, since clevos w860cus 15.6 inch screens are amazing. ur sure abt that they r using the same as in clevos w870cus?
     
  34. DT84

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    That's a good news for me. :D
     
  35. Quadzilla

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    Yes i confirmed it was the same model number as the Clevo because i am pretty picky about screen quality :D....

    Now that could all change come shipping time but currently the G72 is using that panel...
     
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    Some speculation perhaps, but based on the rather low total P score of 7200~ (which was made at 1366 x 768), and the fact they have kept the actual GPU score a secret, I think Asus has already underclocked the 5870.

    Desktop 5750: 7033 GPU score (p8512 with 3.75ghz i7)
    Desktop 5770: 8705 GPU score (p10311 with 3.75ghz i7)

    Desktop 5750: 720 shaders, 700mhz core, 1150mhz memory
    Desktop 5770: 800 shaders, 850mhz core, 1200mhz memory
    Mobility 5870: 800 shaders, 700mhz core, 1000mhz memory

    Keep in mind, the GPU has a much greater impact on the total P score than the CPU. Remember, we're talking about single 128 bit GDDR5 cards, not gargantuan Sli setups with heaps of memory bandwith.
     
  37. evensen007

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    Actually that would put it right in line with the 5750/70 which is what it is supposedly based off of.

    From the GpuZ(?) that iAta ran at CES, it was clocked at 700mhz core, so that seems about right. If the cooling system is decent, I believe we will be able to clock it to 5770 speeds very easily.
     
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    I have a question does making the primary HDD to an SDD really worth it?,
     
  39. evensen007

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    Read back about 40 pages. The bottom line answer is unequivocally YES!
     
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    If you can afford it then there is no question you should get an SSD. If you cant afford it you should go rob someo...... er borrow some money from your parents.
     
  41. evensen007

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    lol! Agreed! :D
     
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    That seller is ExcaliburPC, one of the official resellers that roam these forums. And note, it's for Pre-order.

    There you go, put into a little package way nicer than I could have.

    You haven't seen a Clevo D901C have you? At any rate, the G73jh is still an excellent price/performance buy.

    Don't laptop manufacturers tend to use a variety of screens from different manufacturers, even for the same model? I don't know about Asus, but I know Dell and Clevo definitely do.
     
  43. MasqueradingTeabag

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    I'm thinking of switching my primary to an SSD, as well. Hm, that plus, shipping plus duty in Australia...My dad's going to be pleased.
     
  44. hazardic

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    agreed - g73 looks very promising. if the cooling will be sufficient i'll definitely buy it because of a power, design (this is a first asus which i like) and a price
     
  45. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    I really enjoyed playing with this baby at CES both in the AMD room and the Asus booth. Like I said it is very nice but M17x owners might find the build quality is not the ultimate, but it is very good. Here are some recent pics...


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  46. hazardic

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    wow how its beautiful.. dou you know where can i find these pics in hi-res?
     
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    It looks very cool. Closed looks more alien than an Alienware; especially the back. It looks like a spaceship, lol. I like it.

    But how is it supposed to draw the air? Did you guys settle this already?

    PS. Like the backpack. Very clean.
     
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    I actually like the w90's backpack a lot more.

    This one isn't bad though. I hope Asus sticks to the clean aesthetics, Anyone else find the space (due to the sloping front) between the screen and the keyboard disconcerting?
     
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    Delete this post.
     
  50. WaR

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    I think it just makes it easier to open it. Similar to what they did to the M15x and put a gap on the lid. Perhaps the hinges are very tight. I don't mind that.
     
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